The Sims 4 Supernatural is long overdue

I love occult Sims but TS3 Supernatural was just overkill. I never felt like I was able to give each one its fair shake playwise. The graphical issues with wings on fairies were offputting for me (especially sitting on top of the clothing layer) and most of the fun stuff with fairies happened when they were in mini mode which meant just another rabbit hole. And werewolves were just silly -- really, hitting them on the nose with a newspaper? If we're going to get more occults I want them to get the same respect as Vampires were given with a skills tree and other enhancements. Vampires proved that they can get occults right -- it's just the matter of the right time.

"stilljustme2;c-17058984" wrote:
I love occult Sims but TS3 Supernatural was just overkill. I never felt like I was able to give each one its fair shake playwise. The graphical issues with wings on fairies were offputting for me (especially sitting on top of the clothing layer) and most of the fun stuff with fairies happened when they were in mini mode which meant just another rabbit hole. And werewolves were just silly -- really, hitting them on the nose with a newspaper? If we're going to get more occults I want them to get the same respect as Vampires were given with a skills tree and other enhancements. Vampires proved that they can get occults right -- it's just the matter of the right time.

Sims 3 was definitely overkill (more supernaturals than EP's) but the reaction in sims 4 is the other extreme (1 supernatural in 6 EP's and 1 in 7 GP's) .

Aliens are nice to have but after the release of vampires they feel rather shallow. Vampires are done great but they are just one type of supernatural. If you want to really enjoy a supernatural with power and perks it's vampires or nothing at all.

What is sad is all the temporary states like plantsims and skeletons. They just feel as missed opportunities. Same for the weirdness in strangetown. This GP would have been a good pack to include a proper life state.

I would like to see more supernaturals return but as things look now, I think we don't have to expect more than one or two over the next few years.

the only way i would not mind such an ep is if they include toggles to turn off the lifestate itself since if i buy the expansionpack it would be only for the content it offers not the lifestate itself, because as a player of the sim i am not the supernatural type of player i prefer normal human sims.

I agree entirely with this (as i will every single time the subject comes up)

I am always thrilled with even a tiny bit of new content geared twards my own interests, the wellness skill letting you basically tap into the force was a nice addition for my jedi household... but that's literally all they've gotten recently.

I'd honestly like to see more "supernatural/lightside" answers to vampire powers added over time the way "teleport" answers "mist form"

I don't understand the people who say "I'd rather this never be added if it doesn't have a toggle, it's bad enough that we have to deal with the tiny number of supernatural things already present in my mundane life simulator" The sims has always had supernatural elements to it, which you can easily ignore if they bother you.

At this point people wanting "normal" things are sitting at a fancy table feasting while people wanting fantasy and supernatural elements in their game are literally dying on the floor begging for scraps. That isn't the slightest bit fair, this game isn't just for people who want "normal" things, and the people who want more fantasy and supernatural elements are not a minority.

I loved the "Vampires" dlc, one of my favorite characters is a vampire that I've got an entire storyline built around.

I also love the fact that they added in aliens, though I wish they had done more with them than they did.

I'll be going through the military carrier on every member of a family that I made all on its own while digging through the strangerville mystery on another. Normal stuff on one end, supernatural on the other.

But I want magic, element and nature based magic preferably. Though witchcraft would be cool too. and faeries, elves, dragons, and various other new additions to my game so that I can build up new storylines and create new characters that wouldn't fit in the current game.

I have a ton of ideas for what I'll do with literally any content that they release regardless of if its "mundane life" or not but currently there aren't any options

You're either a fairly mundane alien or a super cool vampire who can't really comfortably work any of the currently available jobs, it would be nice if they add a few supernatural themed jobs in (fortune teller? psychic? druid/shaman?)

All they would really have to do is add in a town where all this stuff exists separate from the other towns similar to the way they did for vampires, and strangerville, then nobody can complain about it being there because if they see it its because they /chose/ to do so.

I agree that supernatural players really got ignored so far. I do think though, instead of a supernatural EP, releasing individual GP would be better. It worked so well for Vampires because the focus was solely on them. Plus, people who don't like them have an easier time avoiding them.

I could see them sliding in one ot two new lifestates in an EP, similar to what they did with Aliens. A tropical themed EP could give us mermaids. They also might be able to combine witches with fairies in a GP: i imagine they'd be fairly similar. Then they could do another separate GP for Werewolves (Maybe they could even make it Werecreatures instead and add on: so you could be a werewolf, or a werecat, or even a weredinosaur or something.)

I feel like, with vampires, they already have the bare bones in place to do other occult lifestates much more easily. In theory, it should be easier for them to make now.

I agree we are over looked

1000000% agreed. And even plant sims are TEMPORARY! I don't even know how to GET one! It would have been so much easier to just include them in Seasons like they did in TS2.

I’m curious how big a percentage actually play occult at all though? I don’t really mind one way or the other, I’d buy it and I loved Makin magic, but I’ve only ever seen a ‘demand’ for supernatural in this forum, never with the youtubers or twitter or irl (I’m sure it exists, I just haven’t personally come across it...ever)maybe that’s why it’s being overlooked? It might just be a very vocal minority who want it but the majority won’t buy it? I honestly don’t know but I suspect that might be the case, I don’t think sims are just intentionally overlooking an area of huge demand.

"sunspriter;c-17067161" wrote:
I’m curious how big a percentage actually play occult at all though? I don’t really mind one way or the other, I’d buy it and I loved Makin magic, but I’ve only ever seen a ‘demand’ for supernatural in this forum, never with the youtubers or twitter or irl (I’m sure it exists, I just haven’t personally come across it...ever)maybe that’s why it’s being overlooked? It might just be a very vocal minority who want it but the majority won’t buy it? I honestly don’t know but I suspect that might be the case, I don’t think sims are just intentionally overlooking an area of huge demand.

I personally don't think they are that much of a minority. Youtubers are also just stuck with what is there: they can't use it if its not a thing, and they can't just make videos constantly complaining about what isn't there. A big section of youtubers is just dedicated to building; another is challenges, etc. I can't speak for Twitter or anything else.

It is true that TS3 was in the height of the Twilight phase, and as that has died down there is likely less people with a paranormal itch to scratch. So it could be part of it.

More so, I think the real issue is that the supernatural players tend to be very separate from realistic players. VERY separate. In TS3, almost every other EP came with a new lifestate even outside of supernatural. We got mermaids, imaginary friends, genies, vampires, simbots, aliens, plant sims... it was almost a staple to expect a new lifestate for every EP. Get To Work was the first EP for TS4, and just as was trended in TS3, it came with a lifestate. And the community blew up over it... realistic players didn't want the aliens in their game and they couldn't be turned off, but they couldn't get the job content from Get To Work without it. People were also disappointed that aliens felt so bare bones. Then, we never really got life states in EP after that, and eventually we got Vampires as a GP which SHOULD have been a better fix. Separate the content so realistic players don't have to see it, and devote all your attention to the occult to better please the super natural players. And even still, people who didn't like the occult bought it then got upset they had vampires running around :/ Which was kind of the point of the GP...

For super natural players though, I think Vampires was well received because they were done so well. So I think they are just trying to find the balance to make the content available whilst also making it optional. With the release of Strangerville this year, and the poll asking for the most popular occult lifestate, I think they are trying to ease back into it.

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17067159" wrote:
1000000% agreed. And even plant sims are TEMPORARY! I don't even know how to GET one! It would have been so much easier to just include them in Seasons like they did in TS2.

If you just go in the gallery and download a Forbidden Fruit Tree, eat from there and your Sim will be a Plant Sim for three days. (You have to keep their needs up, though, or they'll revert earlier.)