We need more lots!!

"plopppo2;c-16288304" wrote:
One factor here is because they simulate maps to appear larger.

There are only 4 or 5 lots per area in Willow Creek; however, they stuck in a ton of fake housing, etc to simulate a bigger world.

Our 4 or 5 lots can be surrounded by 30 or so fake houses, etc.

Foundry Cove - Willow Creek:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/6/6e/Foundry_Cove_from_above.png/revision/latest?cb=20141230152650

So, the problem is there is no such thing as an empty world in TS4. Newcrest is full of emply lots, yet when you go there, it has tons and tons and tons of fake housing and shops, etc.

EDIT:
My point being that is not easy to just make these things - ie just hand over an empty world - full of empty lots - because of all of the fake scenary that they have to include.

You’re absolutely correct!! I actually like the fact that theres fake buildings...it just gives the worlds a lot of character. Like how Willow Creek has venues that are kind of old townish and how the fake buildings kinda correspond to the similar architecture. Probably why I have so much love for Willow Creek

I'm still waiting for a world editor. However, I'm not going to hold my breath.

Oh we need a LOT of space. I get all OCD with my game. I want the sims that are my sims lives to have their own home. Have different types of the same lot. I also set up clubs for my townies to hang out at those community lots. So yeah we need more space.

"@DeservedCriticism;c-16288311" wrote:

"So_Money;c-16288178" wrote:
Keeping in mind that the game only ever loads one lot at a time, I wonder why 1) the "overworld" maps aren't bigger and 2) why there are so few lots?

From a performance standpoint, I could understand keeping the worlds smaller if this were an open-world game, but it's not and we never load the world as a whole--so why should it matter how big it is or how many lots are on it?

It's a head-scratcher IMO.

No it isn't. They want your money.

If that was the case, they would sell us world packs like The Sims 3.

It makes 0 sense to limit the amount of lots, but then not offer us an alternative to buy some outside of Expansions. They’re getting the same money regardless.

It’s more of an issue that TS4 worlds are built from the ground up.

It’s not a matter of editing some flat terrain, throwing in some trees and building some lots.

The Sims 4 worlds are sculpted from scratch, and that probably requires a whole team rather than a few employeees using Create A World.

"@So_Money;c-16288339" wrote:

"DeservedCriticism;c-16288311" wrote:

"So_Money;c-16288178" wrote:
Keeping in mind that the game only ever loads one lot at a time, I wonder why 1) the "overworld" maps aren't bigger and 2) why there are so few lots?

From a performance standpoint, I could understand keeping the worlds smaller if this were an open-world game, but it's not and we never load the world as a whole--so why should it matter how big it is or how many lots are on it?

It's a head-scratcher IMO.

No it isn't. They want your money.

Maybe, but I'm not convinced that it's all about enticing us to buy packs. There are plenty of reasons to buy the packs and plenty of reasons not to, but I can't imagine many simmers are making the decision based on the extra lots provided.

And they did give us Newcrest for free.

I’d say it’s more of an issue of resources. SimGuruDaniel said they wouldn’t have the resources to sell World Packs on top of GP and EPs.

SimGuruDaniel also said he worked on Newcrest in early 2015, which means it took several months just to copy and paste Willow Creek and make some background changes so it looked different.

OP, there are over 200 lots in TS4 with all packs, maybe check for a sale if you’re missing an EP, that might help with lots.

But if you have all the packs, I don’t feel like you could be actively using over 200 lots on rotation. That’s twice the size of a Sims 3 open world.

"@So_Money;c-16288178" wrote:
Keeping in mind that the game only ever loads one lot at a time, I wonder why 1) the "overworld" maps aren't bigger and 2) why there are so few lots?

From a performance standpoint, I could understand keeping the worlds smaller if this were an open-world game, but it's not and we never load the world as a whole--so why should it matter how big it is or how many lots are on it?

It's a head-scratcher IMO.

Oh, I also imagine that there’s a limit to how many locations (neighbourhoods) they can have in the game files before they start seeing significant save bloat. Also the fact that each save file already allows potentially over 200 families which all have to age at a rate.

My theory is, that while this system makes things easier to travel between worlds, it also meant that if each world was 50 or so lots, or 100 like TS3, we’d be at 500 - 1000 lots already in one save file, which is just way too much and could potentially see performance issues long term.

If they keep each world at 20 or so lots, it means they can explore many different styles while allowing the game to run smooth

The Sims 1 & 2 was different as each lot was it’s own save file. The world map was a fancy Load/Save menu and nothing more.

In a perfect world I’d love more lots, but if you don’t look at it realistically you’ll realise that every game has its limitations.

Even The Sims 2 has plenty of limitations over The Sims 1. I’ve found there is a balance in every iteration and I’m happy with that.

I think that thou I agree with having more lots, I would like to see more "apartment" lots.

It's one of the things we cannot make on our own in game, and it doesn't even have to be a city.
something with things like duplexes, or more casual apartment setups come to mind when I say I would like more apartments.

Thou we did get a good amount of apartments in City Living, I feel like we are still very limited with them.

Agreed!

Yup i agree also even if have huge family not enough lots for them. Now look at forgot hallow only two empty houses and one unbulit lot that's it. rest of lots are taken up by caleb and his sister and or vlad. so there no more room for grand mansion either tore down your current lot or stick to one you got.