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Lenti11010's avatar
Lenti11010
Rising Traveler
6 months ago

Bug Report: Forced and Mandated Updates & EA App Behavior re: The Sims 4

 

REQUESTS FOR THE EA APP (Re: The Sims 4)

I posted about this on many platforms, in many comment sections, and many, many people are having these same issues. The number of likes and upvotes indicates an even larger pool of shy, silent, or busy simmers suffering this, too.

CORE REQUESTS

*  Updates to The Sims 4 game must be USER-INITIATED ONLY.
*  Updates must NEVER be automated, if the EA App restarts, it should do nothing to the game. No auto-updating of the the app or the game.
*  Updates must remain PERMANENTLY optional. The User should be able to stay on whatever game version they prefer and the game should still launch. 
*  Suggestion: Game fixes to older versions need to be made available. 
*  The EA App must not force updates. Ever, indefinitely. If a player chooses not to update for months, or even years; this must be a clear and fully supported option.

 

THE CURRENT ISSUE: Since this summer, the EA App has been producing so-called “error popups” (several types, seemingly arbitrary, affecting even vanilla players) with increasing frequency. These currently:

*Block players from opening The Sims 4 unless they go online in the EA App.

*Rotate through random “errors” to push the user online in the EA App.

*Once online in the EA App; trigger new “error popups” that specifically force a Sims 4 game update.

PS; halting the update causes a new “error” that prevents the game opening, too; so you know that is not an option.

I am finding these are not genuine errors; they are deliberate update triggers. While they may technically fall under the EA App team, they directly impact The Sims 4 experience and must be addressed in coordination. You claimed this was resolved 11 months ago. (It was not resolved). Also; EC:204 is only one of three possible popup error codes; none appear related to real system issues. Please eliminate these faux “errors.”

This was not resolved by any new EA App version:

discussions/ea-app-technical-issues-en/re-resolved---ea-app-error-code-ec204/7566081

 

 

SUMMARY You have made it so that updates have become unavoidable for what looks to be around half of the Sims 4 player base.

For those subjected to forced updates:

*Vanilla players are experiencing frequent game-breaking bugs and corrupted saves, even without For Rent installed.

*Modded players; the majority of the community; see their carefully curated setups repeatedly destroyed, driving many players to abandon the game entirely. This summer it is MANY. Even those not using script mods, but only CC for CAS and Build/Buy playstyles.

 

 

TLDR

*Updates must be user-initiated only; never automatic; always optional; never forced.

*The game must still launch if the user chooses not to update; even after months or years.

*The “no auto-update” toggle is broken; replace it with a clear OPTIONAL UPDATE button. Make sure that update is truly optional.

*Eliminate fake error messages that block the game from opening and funnel players into forced updates.

*Players must be free to choose if and when they update; even if that is never. The game should still launch and run.

*Add support to repair earlier game versions.

 

Do this; and watch user complaints drop by half.

Please coordinate between the EA App and Sims 4 teams.

Thanks!

9 Replies

  • nycsinger2000's avatar
    nycsinger2000
    Seasoned Newcomer
    1 hour ago

     

    Today, I tried to launch my game, but after it crashed yesterday, I would’ve kept it running if it hadn’t. When I opened the EA App, a message popped up saying I'd been offline for a while, forcing me to close and restart the app just so it could “verify it’s really me.” With no other choice, I had to relaunch it. What followed was this message giving me no choice but to update the app or quit.. Of course I'm now concerned that with the way everything is being handled, updating the app may force my game to update automatically. 

    I’ve been playing this game since 2019—religiously. I’ve been late to events, had arguments with my partner, and spent entire days immersed in it. EA has no right to make my property unusable. If I want to use specific mods (some of which I’ve even paid for) to enhance my game experience with the expansion packs I also purchased, I need my mods and custom content to work.

    If that means playing on an older version of the game to keep everything intact, so be it. We should not have to jump through all these hoops just to decline an update.  I’ve already paid for the game and the updates that come with it. I should have the right to play any version I want, without being penalized or restricted. This is my game, and I should have control over how I play it.  If they're unwilling to make older versions available or provide a proper fix—one that actually works, not just a hasty, poorly executed attempt that only causes more issues—then they should offer full refunds to anyone who refuses to play if the majority of their mods/CC can no longer be used in the game."

  • Lenti11010's avatar
    Lenti11010
    Rising Traveler
    6 months ago

    EC-204. What it looks like in action.

  • Meatballsx's avatar
    Meatballsx
    Seasoned Traveler
    6 months ago

    I seriously doubt this is a bug as far as EA is concerned. I hope this gains traction and it satisfactorily addressed because I have no intention on updating this game for months if I can avoid it. Every update is just making this worse and I think I'm done with the IP in general come December. 

    You're not doing yourselves any favours by alienating your customer base EA/Maxis. 

  • I 100% agree. This is the only app where being offline can still force you to update. It’s ludicrous 

  • XDomina's avatar
    XDomina
    New Adventurer
    6 months ago

    Amidst so many bugs and critical unresolved issues created by updates (instead of being fixed by them), to top it off by forcing users to update their game is beyond unreasonable.

    If you (EA) can't guarantee timely stable user friendly versions of their game, at least let users op-out of those updates for the time it takes for one to exist.

  • Lenti11010's avatar
    Lenti11010
    Rising Traveler
    6 months ago

    To see one version of this:

    See "MissLollypopSims" video on YouTube at  1:18 , for the forced update error [ in her case, also error  EC-204 ] that demanded she update The Sims 4 to the latest version, to be able open The Sims 4 at all.

    She had everything turned to OFFLINE.

    The video is called "The new Sims 4 update BROKE MY SAVES…"

  • Miel_ielle's avatar
    Miel_ielle
    Seasoned Novice
    6 months ago

    This has happened to me 3x so far, I lost one save file already, and this last time almost broke and corrupted my game. If we have the choice to update or not, then that's exactly what it should be, a choice. Turning off auto-update in game and in EA means we're choosing not to update at that current time, so EA's software shouldn't be updating or insisting anything as soon as we open the app. 

  • posivik's avatar
    posivik
    Seasoned Novice
    6 months ago

    The option of "offline mode" is a blatant lie. There is absolutely no reason for the game to have mandatory updates.

  • NewsGirl98's avatar
    NewsGirl98
    Seasoned Traveler
    6 months ago

    No more predatory updates! We should not be forced to download and use an unreliable product that rarely executes tangible improvements.

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