*sigh* Surprised people have to explain this but here goes:Are you seriously comparing the amount of content in the Holidays pack to this patch which has "Islamic" (even though, it is more cultural than anything but let's go with how the community is describing it) content which can be counted on your fingers? Are you genuinely convinced that they should make packs for EVERYTHING remotely representative? Because if so, that means the LGBTQ+ content should've had a pack and it didn't and we are all fine with it. Simple, don't use it. "But BUT BUT TOWNIES WILL BE GENERATED WITH THESE OUTFITS Dx!!!" We don't know that yet, they may have unique tags, so chill.

"Wulfsimmer;d-965511" wrote:*sigh* Surprised people have to explain this but here goes:Are you seriously comparing the amount of content in the Holidays pack to this patch which has "Islamic" (even though, it is more cultural than anything but let's go with how the community is describing it) content which can be counted on your fingers? Are you genuinely convinced that they should make packs for EVERYTHING remotely representative? Because if so, that means the LGBTQ+ content should've had a pack and it didn't and we are all fine with it. Simple, don't use it. "But BUT BUT TOWNIES WILL BE GENERATED WITH THESE OUTFITS Dx!!!" We don't know that yet, they may have unique tags, so chill.actually a lot of people were not fine with the "Pride" stuff people had the same cow people are having other the hijab stuff

"NorthDakotaGamer;c-17228361" wrote:I actually would have preferred the "pride content" to be in a downloadable pack, similar to the holiday, guitar, and too large picture frame. That would solve a multitude of complaints, because it would only be downloaded if it was desired content. If history is of any indication, I will be forced to download yet another mod to make my game playable. Why not just...not use it? Some packs oppose my views but I am not frustrated over them. I use what I want.

They said "muslim inspired" in the stream. I've always felt that real world/religious/political content should be left to modders. Once it starts getting added officially then you get rampages like this, and some of them are understandable. SimGuruDuke made a big fuss about diversity on GamesIndustry recently and if he meant what he said then more cultural/religious content needs to be coming out too. People who want endless updates with more inclusivity are justified because Duke said The Sims 4 is about inclusivity and diversity in an official article. The article was called "The Joyful Representation Of The Sims". The reality is that this is the path the developers have chosen. Also the Holiday Pack completely scrubbed all references to Christianity. It renamed Christmas and included no nativity content alongside the Jewish/Diwali content.I'm a part of the LGBT community and I didn't like the pride patch. Not all LGBT people associate with pride. I want to know why they're adding this kind of content if discussing it is against forum rules for one thing.

"MadameLee;c-17228370" wrote:"Wulfsimmer;d-965511" wrote:*sigh* Surprised people have to explain this but here goes:Are you seriously comparing the amount of content in the Holidays pack to this patch which has "Islamic" (even though, it is more cultural than anything but let's go with how the community is describing it) content which can be counted on your fingers? Are you genuinely convinced that they should make packs for EVERYTHING remotely representative? Because if so, that means the LGBTQ+ content should've had a pack and it didn't and we are all fine with it. Simple, don't use it. "But BUT BUT TOWNIES WILL BE GENERATED WITH THESE OUTFITS Dx!!!" We don't know that yet, they may have unique tags, so chill.actually a lot of people were not fine with the "Pride" stuff people had the same cow people are having other the hijab stuffWhich is ridiculous, honestly. Shame though because this community should've been the most open.No one is forcing anyone to support anything. Just be respectful.

I just hope the townies don‘t wear religious attire, since I don‘t want any religion in my game.

For those arguing why the Hijab & whatnot are not in a seperate pack:

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simmyfroggy
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
"NorthDakotaGamer;c-17229633" wrote:
"LiELF;c-17229621" wrote:
"NorthDakotaGamer;c-17229534" wrote:
"doublenoodles;c-17229508" wrote:
"NorthDakotaGamer;c-17228377" wrote:
"Wulfsimmer;c-17228372" wrote:
"NorthDakotaGamer;c-17228361" wrote:
I actually would have preferred the "pride content" to be in a downloadable pack, similar to the holiday, guitar, and too large picture frame. That would solve a multitude of complaints, because it would only be downloaded if it was desired content. If history is of any indication, I will be forced to download yet another mod to make my game playable.

Why not just...not use it? Some packs oppose my views but I am not frustrated over them. I use what I want.

It does not and never will fit my gameplay. Do I need to be more blunt?

Then don't play sims 4, simple.

Isn't the all sims games about the player ruling their own game? All these "cultural" and "social" agendas forced via free patches are against that aspect. It no longer is a sandbox style game when those are put in it.

Wow, this is a new level of self-contradiction and you don't even see it in your own statement.

Yes, all players should be able to rule their own games. That's the point of being inclusive with cultural content. So that people of other cultures can have their own sandbox game and not a game that's exclusively American, white, middle class culture. The Sims is played worldwide, therefore, requires worldwide representation.

The that cultural content should be optional to download, not required via a patch.

By this measure, what content is NOT cultural? Everything is part of some culture, including what's all to often called the "normal".
LunchWithLions
6 years ago
"Queenarella;c-17229652" wrote:
"Logisitcs;c-17229628" wrote:
Really hope a mod comes out to remove this oppressive object from my game.

I really hope a mod comes out and removes cowboy hats. They remind me of the wild wild west where Native Americans (old people, women and children) were forced to leave their home, were killed unarmed, etc. by cowboys.

There weren't any Native American men? Where did the children come from?
Echova
6 years ago
"LiELF;c-17228742" wrote:
"Echova;c-17228721" wrote:
The Sims should always maintain its neutrality and be a blank canvas for simmers to opt into modding what they believe/want in their games. No religion should be included in the game as it’s highly inappropriate and at times triggering to see in game. Especially to those persecuted by religion. This includes not just Islam, but Christianity and Judaism. There is no place for religion in The Sims. If you want it, then mod it in. Do not force it on others as that’s oppressive and not accepting of other peoples’ beliefs.

Yet to segregate and stereotype other cultures is oppressive and ignorant. Why shouldn't people who can't handle certain cultures just mod them out? A simple piece of CAS clothing that was inspired by a Muslim garment is not "religious content". It really isn't. People are triggering themselves.

Except it isn’t just inspired by. It straight up is a Hijab and the devs even state that it is. Therefore it is a religious garment. You can’t argue that it is not, when it in fact is.

And that is problematic. It’s simpler for people to just mod in CC Hijabs than it is forcing questionable content on people who want nothing to do with real world religions and politics.
FreddieMelina
New Spectator
6 years ago
"LordOfTendons;c-17229674" wrote:
"Queenarella;c-17229652" wrote:
"Logisitcs;c-17229628" wrote:
Really hope a mod comes out to remove this oppressive object from my game.

I really hope a mod comes out and removes cowboy hats. They remind me of the wild wild west where Native Americans (old people, women and children) were forced to leave their home, were killed unarmed, etc. by cowboys.

There weren't any Native American men? Where did the children come from?

I'm not even American but I know that with the westward movement, Native Americans were forced to flee from their homes to make space for the whites. And there were many massacres. The one at Wounded Knee for example.

But I only brought this up to fight fire with fire.
EA_Mai
EA Staff
6 years ago
I've removed some comments from this discussion and I'm going to lock it here.

A reminder for everyone to please be respectful and polite when participating in the forums. We are here to discuss the game, not debate about religion, there's no need to be rude or offensive towards other people.

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For those arguing why the Hijab & whatnot are not in a seperate pack:

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