Complications changing family tree
Hi! So I have a 7 sim family. I recently decided that I wanted to add parents to one of the already adult sims, so I enabled testingcheats and cas.fulleditmode to create the sims and the relationship...
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I made a test save and tried this, I deleted them from the world and added them again. All their (non player) sim relationships were gone, their inventories were empty and I still couldn't add the father relationship for that specific adult.
I can add it to any other sim in the family, but not to the one I already did it for which definitely points to it being the game thinking it's a relationship that still exists. So it's only the one sim with the "pre existing" deleted father that I can't do this on.
Unfortunately I've made quite the progress since then, so it would be very tedious to have to do it all again. I remember even thinking after I realized I saved the game that "oh no, I hadn't saved in ages before this" right after I tried adding the father. I wish I hadn't been so lazy, haha.
@phoenixjklin
Unfortunately, that's the down-side to moving them from the library. Any relationship to townies/npcs will be deleted using that method. That's what I was hoping would happen to the missing "father". Delete the relationship so it'd be free to re-assign. It must not work if the father doesn't exist. Sounds like a bug.
Thing is, if the sim that is acting buggy, if whomever they are seeing as their "father" exists in the world, all you have to do is delete that relationship and it'll be fine to re-assign. But if they don't exist in the world, there is nothing to delete. Never had that happen to me myself so I'm not sure how to fix.
Instead of fighting it, you may end up having to just recreate that one sim. That would certainly be easiest. You'd lose all their skills and career levels, but those can be cheated up back to what they were. You can move their inventory to another sim temporarily. I don't see using cheat commands a problem to fix a bug like this.
Just don't try to use cheats to assign the family "bit" relationships yourself. It doesn't work properly and will have issues. You want to assign the relationship in CAS if at all possible.
Unfortunately, that's the down-side to moving them from the library. Any relationship to townies/npcs will be deleted using that method. That's what I was hoping would happen to the missing "father". Delete the relationship so it'd be free to re-assign. It must not work if the father doesn't exist. Sounds like a bug.
Thing is, if the sim that is acting buggy, if whomever they are seeing as their "father" exists in the world, all you have to do is delete that relationship and it'll be fine to re-assign. But if they don't exist in the world, there is nothing to delete. Never had that happen to me myself so I'm not sure how to fix.
Instead of fighting it, you may end up having to just recreate that one sim. That would certainly be easiest. You'd lose all their skills and career levels, but those can be cheated up back to what they were. You can move their inventory to another sim temporarily. I don't see using cheat commands a problem to fix a bug like this.
Just don't try to use cheats to assign the family "bit" relationships yourself. It doesn't work properly and will have issues. You want to assign the relationship in CAS if at all possible.
@phoenixjklin Based on what @Psychotps said, I wonder if you could double check through manage households that the father in question is still around but "not in world". There have been a couple times I thought I deleted / removed a sim but they still showed up as an existing sim. A couple of times they still showed up in my active sims' relationship panel and I was able to "invite them to hang out at current lot". Just a thought.
@JonaO703
Exactly. If the father actually exists in the world, it won't let you re-assign it as long as they're there. Can't hurt to check and see if maybe they're there just not in that household. Then all you need to do is find them in the household manager and delete the "father". It should be fine to re-assign then.That particular adult sim has children of her own, a husband and a sister, so I imagine that if I were to remake her I wouldn't be able to give her those relationships back, just like I can't seem to give her the parent relationship with her father.
I've checked her family tree and since I made the father two empty boxes/pictures have popped up where her parents should be. They weren't there before. So I'd assume if the father still existed he would be in one of the boxes, but he isn't. He's not in the "manage households" tab either.
When I made the father I never exited CAS with him. I made him, saved him to my gallery and exited without saving. It annoys me that all I should've done was remove the relationship before deleting him, haha.
I've really made some huge story-building sims, houses and events already that I'd hate to lose by loading another save. I'm thinking that if I can't somehow fix it she'll just have to be without parents.
