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This is a user help user forum so it will never fly that we users should promise to send an issue to the developers. Us that help here generally have many years of experience with the game and troubleshooting and since a DxDiag quite often is helpful in diagnosing a technical problem you will often see a request for one. The most seen problem here is with outdated mods/CC. If something is suspected to be a bug in the game people will be asked to post in the bug forum or if there are an existing bug thread asked to post in that..
a) this is a general discussion feedback sub-forum with moderators who submit issues to the EA team members. And as it is a feedback forum, i am providing feedback regarding the PR skills of the moderators and EA team members here - including the stock and standard DXDiag response and the way it is delivered.
b) you seem to have missed my point. As i stated above, i am providing feedback regarding the moderators and EA team members PR skills (which are lacking). Simply saying "post a DX Diag and you system specs" has an unspoken implication that regardless of the issue being reported and details given regarding said issue, the immediate go to is "Well, it must be the end users system" rather than a moderator saying, "Well, okay yes there is an issue. it will be reported. And just to cover all bases, can you please post a DxDiag and your system specs on the off-chance that it is not a bug in the program/patch/etc". Personally, i know what i'd prefer. Especially when i give details as to what was happening before the issue occurred and what happened to lead to the issue - as the greater majority of people do. general players do not like being treated like idiots and some common courtesy will go a long way. And there is very little common courtesy shown from moderators and EA team members on these forums.
Again, i am providing feedback in a forum labelled "General discussion/Feedback".
- xochiquetzl_xkvn3 years agoSeasoned Ace
My understanding (which, since I don't work for EA, might be faulty) is that every bug report that's complete (with the template) and with a good, comprehensible description of the issue is sent to the devs via a regular "scrape." Like, you wouldn't expect them to promise to work on an issue like:
Title: SIMS 4 BROKENMessage body: FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uh, okay, so... what's broken? The team needs to understand the problem in order to be able to reproduce it and fix it. That's far too vague.
A DxDiag is actually a reasonable request for things like graphics-quality-related issues (like frame rate drops, etc.). It's less that it's all your fault and more that, you know, at what level can supported PCs and graphics cards not keep up with a certain feature? Like, apparently my computer cannot handle Oakenstead as a green Eco lot without dropping frames to 1 fps, and it's not a high-end gaming PC but it's not a potato, either. They need my specs and dxdiag for that.
- taffster743 years agoNew Veteran@xochiquetzl_xkvn problem is, the way the moderators word the request doesn't come across as very conducive. All they say is, "post a dxdiag and your system specs" and nothing else.
let's take this hypothetical .... say you're predominantly left-handed and you want to learn to play guitar. You go out and buy a guitar but ... it's a right-handed guitar. You ring up the guitar store and they say, "Well, it's not our fault. re-string the guitar upside down. Hendrix did it." is that "advice" at all helpful? No. Or say, you do buy a left-handed guitar and you sign up with a tutor.... but they're right-handed and have never taught a left-hander before. They say "Well, you should learn to play right-handed." Is that helpful? No. Basically, that is what the moderators here are doing. They have a set parameter of answer to give to any given problem and will not work outside those parameters. So therefore PR and courtesy goes out the door. As i have said previously, if they just change their approach by thanking people who provide detailed (well, as detailed as possible) info on a particular issue, guaranteeing it will be passed on and then asking for a DxDiag and system specs - just to cover all bases - regular users wouldn't get so frustrated.
As a side note, I can understand mod's asking for details when someone simply says there's a problem - fix it! and don't provide no other information. I'm not talking about those situations.- Bluebellflora3 years agoHero+
Please can you explain who you are defining as Moderators? Which role do they have under their name in posts? If you are referring to Heroes and Champions, perhaps this helpful FAQ will make the roles a little clearer for you - https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Information/Heroes-and-Champions-Support-Volunteer-Helpers-of-AHQ/m-p/8924397#M1
Answers HQ is a platform for players to help players get back into their game. All helpers here are volunteers, unaffiliated with EA. It is not a predominantly PR platform. I would go so far as to add that the very nature of these forums is almost the antithesis of PR (but there's no such thing as bad PR right? 🙂 ). EA are encouraging people to report problems with their game, to publicly state they cannot properly run the game, whether that is because of a bug or the user's setup, and to seek out help from other users - users who are experienced with the game or have technical know-how about the platform in question. In that process, other users who are seeking help for a similar issue will come across a post and either get the help they need or add to the discussion, providing more info that helps the player or more info that helps troubleshooting.
You only have to browse the Tech. forums and Gameplay & Mods forum to see how helpful players are to each other and how appreciative the vast majority of players looking for help are. Perhaps only being predominantly active in an ongoing bug thread skews the perspective a bit? I get it, it can be incredibly frustrating when a bug is introduced that renders the game unplayable. I've been there many times over the last 22 years of playing the Sims. But we can all help each other and being divisive doesn't help anyone, it only serves to make a frustrating situation even worse.