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Re: NPC Generation

So, the vampire in question is Roxy, Tyler’s wife. She tried to turn him, full status on both relationship bars. I used the “make happy” cheat, that didn’t solve the issue. From what I noticed, she was happy. They’re all pretty much always happy, or some other positive emotion because of the “make happy” cheat. 

She’s never tried to control her Husband. I always use the “ask permission” command when it comes to feeding, and he always gives it. 

Maybe she just cant control him? I didn’t realise some sims were immune, or at least had a tolerance to vampire control. 

8 Replies

  • PugLove888's avatar
    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @KushKylie, not sure about deleting Sims from Household Management … I either haven't' done that or else it was years ago. 😳  Some do it all the time, so I'll have to ask someone who has done it, or else knows more of the technological behind the scenes stuff! 😉  I'll try to get back to you on that...

    As for the Vampires, thanks for explaining a bit more about your situation. 😇 It's a little easier to see what is going on relationship wise when you play with both Sims involved in the situation! 😃

    Hmm... I don't use the Make Happy Cheat often.  I have heard of some cheats giving different results to certain situations, but I think that was with relationship cheats. 🤔   How was the Vampires energy and thirst level?  I've had that affect my Vampire being able to compel another to let them drink.  That and any really bad moodlets.  You don't need a happy moodlet for the Vampire (mine has dampened emotions and most of the time has the "fine moodlet" which overrides all the other moodlets unless you have a lot of them... so my Vamp is mostly in the Fine mood.  That said, I had her turn two Sims …. the first one she had full energy and not much thirst and she was able to turn them with no problem.  The next time I made sure she was pretty thirsty (hunger bar more than half way down) and had a good amount of energy loss from using her powers so that her energy was down by 1/4 of her bar.  This time she wasn't able to turn her victim... I did manage it later, but I waited for it to be night time (My GM Vamp is immune to sunlight, but these kinds of interactions have a bigger chance of success at nighttime!) 😉

    I also need to ask does you GM Vamp Sim have a garlic immunity and if not, does you non-Vamp Sim that you are trying to turn have garlic in his possession?  Were they standing by garlic?  You might want to list all your abilities and disabilities for your Vampire. 🤨  

    Finally, did you have your non-Vamp Sim ask to be turned, or did you have the Vamp just try to turn them, or did you try both?🤔  That might make a difference! 

  • KushKylie's avatar
    KushKylie
    6 years ago

    All her stats were fine. The make happy cheat works on vampire energy too, and I did that twice before trying the second and third time. No garlic immunity that I remember- but hubby doesn’t have garlic on him. 

    Ive created another vampire from scratch, and her attempts at controlling her victims are hit and miss too. She has garlic immunity, and full stats- so I think it’s just a matter of which sims are influenced easier. Some are hard, some aren’t. 

    And yes- eventually, I did get her hubby to finally ask. Her attempts at turning him were ruining their relationship lol 

  • PugLove888's avatar
    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @KushKylie, I contacted someone I know who has played with deleting Sims through Household Management, and she said that in her game the deleted Sims are always replaced. :eahigh_file:  (She tried it on a Legacy Challenge, so she was paying close attention to this because she was trying to replenish the "marriage pool" for her Legacy Sims! 😉 )  But another friend said the game wouldn't respawn deleted Sims if you delete Sims from your Sims' home, which makes sense.  So as long as your aren't deleting Sims from your Sims' homes, the game should respawn new Sims to replace them. 🤨

    As for the Vampires, thanks for reporting back.🙂  I just needed to know if this was an overlooked garlic issue.  Sometimes it is as simple as that, but other times it is something more complex that makes our Sims behave the way they do!  🤨   In your case, there are probably a bunch of factors that influence the success rate of one Sim turning another Sim into a Vampire.  Various moodlets, low needs, relationship status, environmental effects, personality traits, reward traits,  etc. can all affect such interactions. Aside from my Sim not being able to turn a Sim with lowered energy in sunlight, since it was almost nighttime, I had them talk for a bit until the it was dark and then she was able to turn the other Sim (yes, they did increase their relationship levels by talking, but only a bit;  and you obviously had tried this with 2 Sims who really knew each other!)

    Another thing I noticed when trying to compel other Sims for a drink, is that the interaction often fails when my Vampire Sim is in her dark form when she initiates the action.  If she starts in her light form and then starts the interaction, (where she then changes into her dark form), she has a much higher chance of the interaction not failing. 🤨  This might also be the case for a Vamp Sim turning another Sim into a Vamp! 🤔  

    I can imagine how one spouse constantly trying to turn the other into a Vampire might lower their relationship! 😃  I'm glad you were able to turn the husband by having him asked to be turned! :eahigh_file:

  • KushKylie's avatar
    KushKylie
    6 years ago

    So deleting households from household management is safe? I usually delete the ones who aren’t in world at the time, and always from household management. I’ll have to keep my eye out for new sims around town! 

    As for the vampire, she’s always in dark form- so maybe that did play a role in it. But I have another who’s always in dark form, and she hasn’t had any problems yet. 

    I just love how unpredictable and complex this game is! 

    Thanks for all your help, @PugLove888 

  • PugLove888's avatar
    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @KushKylie, it should be safe, from what I understand, especially if you are deleting Sims who don't live "in the world".  (That always sounds odd to me! 😃 ).

    As for Vampires, it is like I said … I think a combination of a lot of factors plays a role.  My GM Vampire has the uncontrollable hissing, which causes her to be disliked by almost everyone, even her husband and all her children, no matter how nice she is to them! 😞 I think she is doing well just to have any relationship in the green!  So some of her failed Vampire interactions might be due to this, but there are so many other factors it is hard to say for certain! 🤨  And since everybody is going to dislike her anyway, I never have her ask permission to drink but always have her compel. ( I have other Vamps who always ask permission!) 

    Another factor I did not think of since most of my gameplay with this Sim and her family was done before Get Famous was released, is that reputation might also play a part in whether a Vampire interaction fails or is successful. 🤔

    This is where I really miss the Prima Strategy Guides that used to be published for The Sims, TS2, and most of TS3.  They would always spell out the mechanics of interactions and the likelihood of certain outcomes.  It made answering questions to help people much easier.  I'm not that tech savvy so I can only go by my gameplay and what others report.  But I do play this game all the time! 😃

    In reference to your other post about the teen with the toddler's Sad moddlet, and Vladislaus' family … I don't know the answers to those at this time (I think I remember someone else having problems with persisting toddler moodlets, but I'm not sure.🤔  It might be a bug.😞   I didn't reply there because I don't want to discourage somebody who can really answer your questions , which might happen if I post. e

    But I wanted to say that yes, that is very nice of you not to want to clutter the forums with questions 😇 ; however, it is usually better if you make 2 separate posts, since it will be easier for others with similar problems to find the answers.🤨  A lot of people look for the Check Mark my the post that says the problem has been solved, but if you have 2 separate issues, if you use the "Accept as Solution" button when one of the issues is solved, then it seems as if the other issue is also solved when it might not be.☹️  So while I appreciate your thoughtfulness on not wanting to clutter the forums, it is actually more helpful if you post your issues separately! 😉  It's not considered "spamming" if the topics are different and you legitimately need help! 🙂 

    Finally, I have to agree that the complexity of the interactions makes the game so fun! ❤️ It is a fun game to experiment with! 🤓🥳 

  • KushKylie's avatar
    KushKylie
    6 years ago

    Thanks @PugLove888, I didn’t think of it that way! I’ll split my post into two topics then. Vlad’s situation keeps getting more frustrating the more I try to solve his issue. 

    I also searched for answers regarding the moodlet a couple days ago when I noticed this moodlet would go away. I found someone with the exact same issue, but the cheat that was suggested didn’t work for me. I don’t think all PC cheats work for console. They also suggested the moodlet drink, and it only works temporarily. 

    My other sims interact a lot with the ones I play at the time (they all know each other one way or another... it’s a small world, after all), and the three teens who are stuck with this moodlet are always sad! It’s frustrating to see. 

    I have no issue replicating the teens and replacing them with their library copy- but I need to know that’ll work before I commit to that. 

    After all this time the game has been out, I’ve only just started playing it, so I’ve got a lot of questions. You’ll be seeing a lot of me in here 😭

  • PugLove888's avatar
    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @KushKylie, no problem!  Separating your issues into different posts makes it more likely both of your issues will get looked into as well. 😉  Nobody would want an issue you are having to be overlooked because someone focused on the other issue! ☹️  

    Yeah, I think I've seen the moodlet issue before.  It would be nice to know exactly what caused it! But I would experiment with not using the mood or age cheats, just to be on the safe side.  I don't use them too often.  But if you have the same toddler moodlet issue without using the mood or age cheats, then you know it wasn't the cheats that caused it.  Likewise if you don't have the toddler mood issue when not using those cheats, then you know cheats were the culprit.  I wont be playing much tonight as I have a headache 😞, so I can't test it out myself until later -- but someone else might answer you in the meantime! 🙂  It does seem a persistent problem in your game, so it would be good for you to find out more about it! 🤨

    Don't worry about asking questions! As long as you follow the rules and are patient for answers, you'll be fine! 😎  We can't always be online since most of us here are volunteers.  There are some EA employees here, though, but their screenname will indicate that they are from EA.  Most of us here are just passionate about the Sims and want to help other people!  And some of us here are great with computers (sadly, I'm not one of those people! 😳😃 ) But we do try to help to the best of our abilities.  And if you hang around often enough, you might be able to answer some questions yourself! :eahigh_file: That's how a lot of us started out! 

  • KushKylie's avatar
    KushKylie
    6 years ago

    It hasn’t been a persistent problem so far. The three teens experienced this moodlet in their toddler-hood, while another three children I’ve aged up manually, didn’t, and haven’t so exhibited this moodlet in their childhood. 

    Perhaps aging them up while the moodlet was active could be an issue? I’ll have to experiment myself too.