About the new content.....

"Simburian;c-17233136" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-17233100" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-17233042" wrote:
Not since Maxis decided to tell me what to think and how to feel ETA: by seeding the game with their own causes instead of the gameplay people long for and turned The Sims into an empty representation game instead of gameplay and the neutral world of Sims.

I agree with this whole heartedly.

I know all this and ignore all causes it goes on completely myself and take what I want for my own game. The Sims was always supporting causes from the very beginning and doing outrageous things, but in such a way it went largely unnoticed at first. It was twenty years ahead of its time and after the next, hopefully 20 years we will have forgotten all this. I don't want a completely magical, vampirical fantasy game.

That's if we haven't been hit by that asteroid in 2029! There are more important things in life, like living.

I agree, it’s always been supporting causes. It didn’t make a big song and dance about it every time it did. I’m all for representation but they don’t need to expect a pat on the back every time they do it.

Does anyone know of any mods to remove unwanted update clothing such as the hijab Etc. Can this be done with MC Command Center?

@Cinebar wow hit the nail right on the head. TS4 is not a deep sandbox life simulator, but a representation game.

I’m not updating until there’s a way to remove that content from the game I paid for. If i wanted to play Sharia Law I’d go to Iran.

I wholly agree with Cinebar and the others here of like mind. EA's latest is confirming what I've been increasingly suspecting for a long time, that they are simply a propaganda/indoctrination organ of the globalist elites (deliberately or unwittingly I've no way of knowing), and have turned the game into a means of promoting their agenda. True focus on the game and players would have the patch/update dealing only with universal items: bug & glitch fixes, the stairs, tools, and other things they already know players in general want/would like. Content that is of interest to only a segment of the gamer population should be in a separate voluntary download. That way everyone wins; EA because they did something genuinely useful and get their pat self on back, us in general because we get fixes and enhancements to our game with no fuss, the specialist sub-set us because they get the unique things they want without uproar of the current sort.

"Cinebar;c-17232879" wrote:
OP, Maxis has a marketing team and lawyers. They didn't make some sort of mistake by calling the new content Muslim Inspired. They said exactly what they meant. EA lawyers wouldn't let them make such mistake as miss naming content when it comes to Muslim nations. So, Maxis is supporting Religious content for Islamic believers. None of this is some sort of mistake, nor does the clothing have anything in the world to do with where a person lives but how they are told to dress (an edict of a religion). Maxis can add whatever they want, believe whatever they want. But I don't support virture signaling. And I'm expecting other named religious content from other religions now, as that would only be fair. But I am still requesting all free content be in separate downloads and stop forcing consumers to accept or install whatever they release while needing a bug fix. That's rather biggoted to me, to force everyone to install content they may not want for whatever reasons, or whatever the content, and forced content does not scream 'diverse' it means you play our way, sorry, no, that's not a diverse frame of mind is it? to force players to accept all content is rather dictatorial to me.

ETA: And my request for separate downloads has been going on for five years not because there was any content offensive personally to me, but because it's the right thing to do for all.

well said!!

"Sindocat;c-17234091" wrote:
Not to reflect it would be, and socially irresponsible.

That would make The Sims, The Sims 2, The Sims 3 and The Sims 4 socially irresponsible. They don't reflect that we live in a diverse world. Where's the other religions? Where's those with disabilities? Where's those with conditions or illnesses? Where's political variation? Where's class? It all plays into diversity, or does "diversity" only extend to some?

"PrincipleOfEntropy;c-17234566" wrote:

"Sindocat;c-17234091" wrote:
Not to reflect it would be, and socially irresponsible.

That would make The Sims, The Sims 2, The Sims 3 and The Sims 4 socially irresponsible. They don't reflect that we live in a diverse world. Where's the other religions? Where's those with disabilities? Where's those with conditions or illnesses? Where's political variation? Where's class? It all plays into diversity, or does "diversity" only extend to some?

Judging from what Maxis are doing at the moment they appear to be doing it little by little. I see it as increasing inclusivity rather.

"Sindocat;c-17234091" wrote:
Reflecting the fact that we all exist in a diverse world is not an agenda in a life simulator. Not to reflect it would be, and socially irresponsible.

The point of The Sims in the past has been we never had to live in a multicultural world/town (our Sims). One world, one people, uh, no, not in a game. A game doesn't have to adhere to one world/multicultral in every town for every Simmer.

Player A's game shouldn't have to look exactly like player B's game. Sims mimic life, but where are such things as the illness that can kill a Sim? other than a silly emotion (if at all) ? None, so no it's not mimicing life, nor the ugly side of life nor the depth of life. It's very superficial.

So, no TS4 is no longer life simulator, hasn't been since day one but a means to reflect EA and Maxis' positions on many different matters of what they think, feel and believe. TS4 isn't a creative tool to allow players to play a game, but to build and represent an avatar to the world. TS4 has become a vechile for Maxis and EA to preach (without players even noticing) how we should all be one culture, one people, their beliefs about dog houses, death, the enviornment and what is and isn't bad for the earth, whose religion is acceptable to them to be a representation in the game, and those are just minor things of how they are trying to influence consumers.

They come up with this argument they want someone to feel included...hello, a game doesn't need to teach, influence, bend minds into the image of their thoughts, nor to represent everyone ever created, nor should it have to. Because they now sell games all across the world shouldn't have to make them feel obligated to adapt, change and or build a game to please everyone on earth. Nor should they ever have to build a game to represent every country, place and or thing or person on earth. And they should never change a game about Sims (who are not people nor an extention of ourselves) to ever have to turn it into The Avatar Game to where they listen to this bunch who scream multicultral. It only shows they aren't proud of TS1-TS3 because any of those did not push nor try to please multiculral nor add every avatar ever thought of in all of history.

But the force is strong with this one.

And really, how many of the millions of Muslims in the world play The Sims? It isn't the scarf that is the problem to some but Maxis and EA tring to tell the world how great they are (patting themselves on the back) for adding something to represent less than .00000000000000001 who might play, because in honesty The Sims is too vulgar for most.

The way I see it, EA/Maxis has changed the formula since Sims 1 and it has not been negative and with each version certain changes was added to the old until Sims 4 came along and EA/Maxis decided to change the formula completely and it may been good for some and bad for others. As for me the change was an drastic one as they moved away from what Will Wright first imagined it to be. An parody of RL and an way for us to escape the RL and play in an world that we could create and with this version you can create but it is at cost, cost to creativity and choice. You now have some RL situations incorporated into the game which some like and at the same time some dislike. Sims 4 has been full of controversy since its inception and looks like it will continue for the duration of its productive life. As one had posted Sims series is no longer about simulation but more about situations and not creativity as that is in EA/Maxis hands now. Sure you can build houses and such but you are limited in where to place them as they are all static and you must fit them in using EA/Maxis dream and not your own. So sad that this series is steadily being downgraded. I do not mind the clothes offered but there need to be more choices to be made and yes the type of clothes are eye openers and causing divisions among the players. Sims series is not once it was made out to be for me.

"Cinebar;c-17234778" wrote:

"Sindocat;c-17234091" wrote:
Reflecting the fact that we all exist in a diverse world is not an agenda in a life simulator. Not to reflect it would be, and socially irresponsible.

The point of The Sims in the past has been we never had to live in a multicultural world/town (our Sims). One world, one people, uh, no, not in a game. A game doesn't have to adhere to one world/multicultral in every town for every Simmer.

Player A's game shouldn't have to look exactly like player B's game. Sims mimic life, but where are such things as the illness that can kill a Sim? other than a silly emotion (if at all) ? None, so no it's not mimicing life, nor the ugly side of life nor the depth of life. It's very superficial.

So, no TS4 is no longer life simulator, hasn't been since day one but a means to reflect EA and Maxis' positions on many different matters of what they think, feel and believe. TS4 isn't a creative tool to allow players to play a game, but to build and represent an avatar to the world. TS4 has become a vechile for Maxis and EA to preach (without players even noticing) how we should all be one culture, one people, their beliefs about dog houses, death, the enviornment and what is and isn't bad for the earth, whose religion is acceptable to them to be a representation in the game, and those are just minor things of how they are trying to influence consumers.

They come up with this argument they want someone to feel included...hello, a game doesn't need to teach, influence, bend minds into the image of their thoughts, nor to represent everyone ever created, nor should it have to. Because they now sell games all across the world shouldn't have to make them feel obligated to adapt, change and or build a game to please everyone on earth. Nor should they ever have to build a game to represent every country, place and or thing or person on earth. And they should never change a game about Sims (who are not people nor an extention of ourselves) to ever have to turn it into The Avatar Game to where they listen to this bunch who scream multicultral. It only shows they aren't proud of TS1-TS3 because any of those did not push nor try to please multiculral nor add every avatar ever thought of in all of history.

But the force is strong with this one.

And really, how many of the millions of Muslims in the world play The Sims? It isn't the scarf that is the problem to some but Maxis and EA tring to tell the world how great they are (patting themselves on the back) for adding something to represent less than .00000000000000001 who might play, because in honesty The Sims is too vulgar for most.

Muslims are like 2 billions of the world population you are just too naive (lets say) to think that those words you came up with have any actual facts behind them

On a side note the sims started as American suburb based simulation they only expanded into other cultures because the game blew up globally and is at least expected to make those diffrent cultures feel at home and not keep it focused on one side of a continent