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Baby stuff/Stop labelling the first life stage as an object

Sims 4 babies need to be treated as a real life stage and not an object, unlock them from their bassinets and allow the parents/siblings to carry them around the house and recreate all the old animati...

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stuff/Stop labelling the first life stage as an object","id":"message:177214","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":33,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:216411"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:177214"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:177214"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":"Sims 4 babies need to be treated as a real life stage and not an object, unlock them from their bassinets and allow the parents/siblings to carry them around the house and recreate all the old animati...","body@stringLength":"3702","rawBody":"Sims 4 babies need to be treated as a real life stage and not an object, unlock them from their bassinets and allow the parents/siblings to carry them around the house and recreate all the old animations we had in sims 2/sims 3.

I'm not saying it will be easy because it won't and plenty will argue it's such a short lived life stage that there's no real point to doing so because it won't bring anything to the simmers table, however, as a simmer myself, I feel all life stages should have some reason to them and should be experienced as sims has always been a game about playing god and building a person from the ground up, it's why we loved the older generations and had/have hope for sims 4.

It's a small addition to have but while we wait for story progression to be introduced, it would be nice to see our sims actually be able to walk around the house with their baby and not be tied to the bassinet.

Watch them walk around, get bottles from the fridge, sit on the sofa and watch TV as the baby sleeps, interact with them like they used to, bring back pretend throwing them in the air and have the baby be able to puke on them, gross but it's why sims has always been hilarious.

Give us new crib options, similar to those from sims 2/sims 3, make them differ in price and design, add them for toddlers too because not every toddler has a bed, some parents can't afford one and or for safety keep them in a crib until they're a little older. Give back some of the realism that came with sims.

I'm personally at a point where I will happily pay/vote for a stuff pack to be released, similar to the toddler stuff pack only for babies this time, because I am so utterly fed up of starting a new family and having this living clutter (Similar to beds) in this cheap looking bassinet hanging around until I get sick of looking at it enough to age them to a toddler and can delete it.
As a simmer whose been playing since they were 7 years old (My dad first bought me sims 1 and 2), there shouldn't be a point where you're so sick of something you just want it gone as soon as it arrives. Yes I know plenty of games have that affect on players but with sims it's upsetting because this game used to be so good.

All I'm asking is, if possible, Babies are unlocked and we get more interactions and abilities which enhance generation stories and parenting for sims.
I know it will take time, money, effort and a lot of code writing, but I'm happy to wait if it means we get a little closer to story progression.

By making this i know I'm putting myself in a large firing line of simmers who know there's a lot more that needs to be done to sims 4 and there's better things which need improvement, which is why I'm saying this is a personal opinion from someone whose played the game for a very long time, I'm a realism simmer and as annoying as it can be asking for things that don't seem or aren't at all important, but for me, it's a part of a gaming experience I've had since I was little and to see parts missing from that is upsetting as it is angering.

As mentioned in previous posts, my sim recently had alien twins and it's sad he never got those sleepless nights walking around the house trying to calm them down, he never got to sit down and watch TV or pass out on the sofa after a long night of bottle feeding and singing to them. He just spent days standing by a cheap crib changing and bottle feeding them. No real parental animations whatsoever.

Going to end this before I find more reasons to rant. Have a nice day and leave your own feedback on what you think of this. ","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2018-01-19T02:43:40.000-08:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":3,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:177214_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":1423},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Sims 4 babies need to be treated as a real life stage and not an object, unlock them from their bassinets and allow the parents/siblings to carry them around the house and recreate all the old animations we had in sims 2/sims 3.

I'm not saying it will be easy because it won't and plenty will argue it's such a short lived life stage that there's no real point to doing so because it won't bring anything to the simmers table, however, as a simmer myself, I feel all life stages should have some reason to them and should be experienced as sims has always been a game about playing god and building a person from the ground up, it's why we loved the older generations and had/have hope for sims 4.

It's a small addition to have but while we wait for story progression to be introduced, it would be nice to see our sims actually be able to walk around the house with their baby and not be tied to the bassinet.

Watch them walk around, get bottles from the fridge, sit on the sofa and watch TV as the baby sleeps, interact with them like they used to, bring back pretend throwing them in the air and have the baby be able to puke on them, gross but it's why sims has always been hilarious.

Give us new crib options, similar to those from sims 2/sims 3, make them differ in price and design, add them for toddlers too because not every toddler has a bed, some parents can't afford one and or for safety keep them in a crib until they're a little older. Give back some of the realism that came with sims.

I'm personally at a point where I will happily pay/vote for a stuff pack to be released, similar to the toddler stuff pack only for babies this time, because I am so utterly fed up of starting a new family and having this living clutter (Similar to beds) in this cheap looking bassinet hanging around until I get sick of looking at it enough to age them to a toddler and can delete it.
As a simmer whose been playing since they were 7 years old (My dad first bought me sims 1 and 2), there shouldn't be a point where you're so sick of something you just want it gone as soon as it arrives. Yes I know plenty of games have that affect on players but with sims it's upsetting because this game used to be so good.

All I'm asking is, if possible, Babies are unlocked and we get more interactions and abilities which enhance generation stories and parenting for sims.
I know it will take time, money, effort and a lot of code writing, but I'm happy to wait if it means we get a little closer to story progression.

By making this i know I'm putting myself in a large firing line of simmers who know there's a lot more that needs to be done to sims 4 and there's better things which need improvement, which is why I'm saying this is a personal opinion from someone whose played the game for a very long time, I'm a realism simmer and as annoying as it can be asking for things that don't seem or aren't at all important, but for me, it's a part of a gaming experience I've had since I was little and to see parts missing from that is upsetting as it is angering.

As mentioned in previous posts, my sim recently had alien twins and it's sad he never got those sleepless nights walking around the house trying to calm them down, he never got to sit down and watch TV or pass out on the sofa after a long night of bottle feeding and singing to them. He just spent days standing by a cheap crib changing and bottle feeding them. No real parental animations whatsoever.

Going to end this before I find more reasons to rant. Have a nice day and leave your own feedback on what you think of this."},"Conversation:conversation:177214":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:177214","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:177214"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2018-03-10T07:38:09.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2018-03-10T07:38:09.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":33,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:177214":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:177214","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:177214_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:177214_1","lastEditTime":"2018-01-19T02:43:40.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:177244":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:177244","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:177214"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:12864"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":177244,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: Baby stuff/Stop labelling the first life stage as an object","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:177244"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:177214"},"body":"
\"Huiiie_07;c-16353722\" wrote:
I still don't get how it would have been so much better if babies weren't tied to their bassinets. You can't do anything with them really, and even IF they're moveable, they would just end up on the floor like in TS3 and simmers would complain again.


To me, improving the baby is about adding realism. Which was pretty much the same argument for laundry and that pack was made.

When you have a baby, there is plenty to do with them and I wish that we could see those things in the game. In particular, I would love to see things like holding a baby while another Sim greets or plays with them. The show off baby interaction in TS4 disappointed me so much.

Sims should also incorporate babies into their everyday interactions. Carry them while speaking on the phone, setting the table, or greeting visitors. It should be seamless. If the baby is fussing and the Sims need to finish an assignment, sit them down with the baby in their lap while they get back to work. If the Sims are relaxing, add the baby to that too. I think that it would be sweet to see a Sim sitting and watching television while playing with the baby in their lap. Or, to see a Sim fall asleep in a chair with a baby cradled in their arms. And I would pay good money for a Sim to be able to sit down in order to breast feed. Watching them stand to do so always rubs me wrong. The natural inclination is to sit, if at all possible.

I also don't understand the assumption that babies will necessarily be left all over the floor. The programming could make it so that babies are not set down in inappropriate places. They would need to be placed in the crib, the middle of a bed, a stroller, a bouncy chair, a swing, a play mat. There are so many ways to get around that original issue.","body@stringLength":"1883","rawBody":"
\"Huiiie_07;c-16353722\" wrote:
I still don't get how it would have been so much better if babies weren't tied to their bassinets. You can't do anything with them really, and even IF they're moveable, they would just end up on the floor like in TS3 and simmers would complain again.


To me, improving the baby is about adding realism. Which was pretty much the same argument for laundry and that pack was made.

When you have a baby, there is plenty to do with them and I wish that we could see those things in the game. In particular, I would love to see things like holding a baby while another Sim greets or plays with them. The show off baby interaction in TS4 disappointed me so much.

Sims should also incorporate babies into their everyday interactions. Carry them while speaking on the phone, setting the table, or greeting visitors. It should be seamless. If the baby is fussing and the Sims need to finish an assignment, sit them down with the baby in their lap while they get back to work. If the Sims are relaxing, add the baby to that too. I think that it would be sweet to see a Sim sitting and watching television while playing with the baby in their lap. Or, to see a Sim fall asleep in a chair with a baby cradled in their arms. And I would pay good money for a Sim to be able to sit down in order to breast feed. Watching them stand to do so always rubs me wrong. The natural inclination is to sit, if at all possible.

I also don't understand the assumption that babies will necessarily be left all over the floor. The programming could make it so that babies are not set down in inappropriate places. They would need to be placed in the crib, the middle of a bed, a stroller, a bouncy chair, a swing, a play mat. 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