Can we talk about the sims 4 rebrand vidio ?

"thecatsred;c-17283447" wrote:
Getting only young people in the video and turning away anyone older than 25 was a massive mistake and advertising disaster. If someone was old enough to play sims when it first came out in 2000, they are in their late 20s at youngest, nearing 30. Many players are in their 30s, 40s, 50s and above.

This video is looking in the faces of all the players who made the franchise profitable and saying "We don't care about you anymore."

This~
I am from 1992, so I was 8 when playing The Sims 1. I think this is a big slap in the face for people who started the whole popularity of The Sims Franchise in the first place.

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

Are you really trying defend a add.That was meant to advertised the game ?

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

I see a big difference between doctors and teachers using it as a tool to help people, with them, watching and guiding versus EA flat out targeting a demographic that may or may not be getting the mental help they might need and using it as application instead of getting that help.

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

Not going to deny Sims 1 and Sims 2 did help teach psychology better than the Sims 3 and 4. Whole moodlet system is such a flawed system to show real human emotions. Turned the Sims into a MMO game rather than a simulation game.

Sims 4 is actually closer to the narcissistic personality disorder:
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm

It is actually a quite common thing with the psychology of dictators throughout history:
https://www.anxiety.org/psychology-of-dictators-power-fear-anxiety

The constant need for everything to be perfect. What it is "These individuals are "preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success" and "power." They believe they are unique and can only be associated with others of equally high status. Furthermore, they require excessive admiration to remain happy, possess an extreme sense of entitlement, exploit others, and are often envious of others." I mean that has been the main focus of the Sims 4. So yes that is my biggest fear of this iteration is developing this in the younger generation of Simmers. They are like sponges absorbing this information and honestly doesn't hold a bright hope of the future with encouraging this behavior in the Sims community both with social media and within the game. The game itself is promoting bullying through this type of psychology and some might be ok with an aggressive future for the Sims community, but I'm not. I am going to be one of the Simmers that is going to have to live with it with the Sims 5. Thankfully some of those have already threatened that Sims 4 is going to be their last game, so I just need to hold on a bit longer for that to happen.

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

That’s all from the Sims 2 and 3 era. I really don’t see how Sims 4 could help. “Oh, look, your sim took a shower and now she’s perfectly ok again, see that?!”

Looking at the posts in the links, the games concerned are TS2 & 3 - which are much better and more in depth games, the setting is school use, and the participants are those with disabilities. This is a completely different situation than the blatent propaganda that started this rukus.

I guess I can forget about this franchise ever being described as Diabolically Delightful, ever again. :'(

"Sk8rblaze;c-17323619" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-17322519" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

That’s all from the Sims 2 and 3 era. I really don’t see how Sims 4 could help. “Oh, look, your sim took a shower and now she’s perfectly ok again, see that?!”

If anything, using The Sims 4’s Sims for anything pertaining to psychology is a GREAT way to get kicked right out of the field. :lol:

It seems they were going for a cartoony behavior approach with The Sims 4, but as realistic as TS2 and TS3’s Sims were, they were far more entertaining to watch, interact with, and develop throughout their lives.

Yeah Rachel and Lucy said the game's direction was going the sitcom outlet rather than the simulation outlet. Why I am happier with new leadership now with someone who has a better understanding what made us get into the first two games and honestly worked on my favorite gameplay features in the Sims 2. It was almost as if Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs for cut off at esteem at what the game focused on was the smaller two areas of the pyramid self-actualization and esteem for the Sims 4. Everything else got forgotten and hidden under the rug.

"Scobre;c-17324243" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-17323619" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-17322519" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

That’s all from the Sims 2 and 3 era. I really don’t see how Sims 4 could help. “Oh, look, your sim took a shower and now she’s perfectly ok again, see that?!”

If anything, using The Sims 4’s Sims for anything pertaining to psychology is a GREAT way to get kicked right out of the field. :lol:

It seems they were going for a cartoony behavior approach with The Sims 4, but as realistic as TS2 and TS3’s Sims were, they were far more entertaining to watch, interact with, and develop throughout their lives.

Yeah Rachel and Lucy said the game's direction was going the sitcom outlet rather than the simulation outlet. Why I am happier with new leadership now with someone who has a better understanding what made us get into the first two games and honestly worked on my favorite gameplay features in the Sims 2. It was almost as if Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs for cut off at esteem at what the game focused on was the smaller two areas of the pyramid self-actualization and esteem for the Sims 4. Everything else got forgotten and hidden under the rug.

My problem with the first edition was that I never got passed stage 1 :sweat_smile:

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/597a19b9de2213000150aecc/5a54826fc4b16a00015d3789_5a2e8a0189ff870001e03b91_Maslow_nv.png

"Scobre;c-17324243" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-17323619" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-17322519" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

"Writin_Reg;c-17318457" wrote:
Then some of you really are not going to like this -

https://www.herl.pitt.edu/symposia/virtual-reality/presentations/LoPresti.pdf


http://www.gamestudies.org/0601/articles/griebel



https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402387/sims-psychology/




https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200311/the-sims-suburban-rhapsody

How Sims are used in Psychology today...... so not just the devs think its a good idea. I also know several schools in Massachusetts that have a class or two for 4-6th graders where they use the Sims 2 to teach social skills, running a household, positive behaviors etc in special education classes. They have had nothing but positive results and their parents seem quite happy about it from what my sister -in-law tells me. She was one of the teachers who first brought the game before the school board 12 - 14 years ago.


Here's what the UK did:

https://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/FUTL49/FUTL49.pdf

That’s all from the Sims 2 and 3 era. I really don’t see how Sims 4 could help. “Oh, look, your sim took a shower and now she’s perfectly ok again, see that?!”

If anything, using The Sims 4’s Sims for anything pertaining to psychology is a GREAT way to get kicked right out of the field. :lol:

It seems they were going for a cartoony behavior approach with The Sims 4, but as realistic as TS2 and TS3’s Sims were, they were far more entertaining to watch, interact with, and develop throughout their lives.

Yeah Rachel and Lucy said the game's direction was going the sitcom outlet rather than the simulation outlet. Why I am happier with new leadership now with someone who has a better understanding what made us get into the first two games and honestly worked on my favorite gameplay features in the Sims 2. It was almost as if Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs for cut off at esteem at what the game focused on was the smaller two areas of the pyramid self-actualization and esteem for the Sims 4. Everything else got forgotten and hidden under the rug.

Can you link that ?