"stilljustme2;c-16736947" wrote:
"Cinebar;c-16736501" wrote:
"MadameLee;c-16735382" wrote:
I don't know what Grant's ideas are about how the sims and disabilities ( someone did ask a two part question and the second half was about sim might be born disabled and Grant said unsure) but what I do know is from previous conversations on this topic is that most of us just want the option in Create a Sim.
How would that work? An option to put the Sim in a chair in CAS? As a choice? Or to give them a disabled feature, like a trait? Pick from a menu? Able to walk? Unable to walk? Do they auto get a chair when added to game? Or do you have to buy one? See, I find all this very insulting and insensitive. I'm sure Maxis wouldn't be as blunt as I am, when they ask their questions of those who requested this, but I see a bigger picture than they might.
ETA: Personally, I hope disablities are never added, since it's not a choice, no one would remain crippled, blind or deaf, nor would they want an illness that caused their disablity such as MS. I, personally, would not want the patch (even if free) nor play a Sim with those problems. Because a disability is not dress up. If it was so shallow the Sim didn't have problems for real and slower to move than others etc. then it would just be a dress up session in a chair. And to me, I don't want to ever be reminded I don't get around as fast as some of you. What I can't do anymore, I do in The Sims series, swim, run, play, jump, climb. Reminding some of us we are limited is not ever a good idea in my opinion. Not when we play games to live out what we can't do anymore in the real world. Escape.
We already have the option in CAS to give Sims different forms (alien disguises, vampiire dark form). We also have the gender options where you can create a male Sim with a feminine frame, or vice versa. A similar set of options for physical disability could work in a smilar fashion -- does your disabled Sim use a wheelchair? a walker? a cane? Then you see the Sim with the chosen accessory.
My Simiverse is one where there are no disabilites, no racism or sexism or homophobia or the other nasty stuff. My gameplay is pretty vanilla; (I do have one Sim right now who is out to become a Public Enemy and he's working on being disliked by as many Sims as possible while he's only a teen.) Others have a darker world. But I don't mind being given the options. I may never make or play a disabled Sims, but some of the discussed options could work to enhance and expand elder play just for an example. To me, the more options the better even if I never use them.
See, what you said about making Sims aliens or vampires in CAS etc. is an insult to think players are sitting, creating diabled Sims from pie menu or list of things to pick from. This is why this is wrong, because some can't even see the insult that is. Monetizing disability. No matter if free, you know this gains them a sect of players who may not have other wize played, or maybe many more quit, because it all becomes monetized. One way or another.
How does sign language work? We don't know what these Sims are saying, right? But if they add real sign language then we would know what two Sims might be talking about,.. but wouldn't know for other Sims? Do you see how ridiculous that is? There is a reason we don't understand their language. But if the Sim is using real sign language (which Grant mentioned) then we would know? We could understand some and not others? It turns my stomach to think some equate a disablity to the choices of creating a vampire or an alien. And Sims have always been able to choose who they love in The Sims and or who the player wanted them to love. And let's face it, there are millions and millions and millions of people on this earth who are religious, I expect they get their fair share of this game, too, if Maxis is going to start reflecting life in such a way.
Parody is when a Sim behaves childishly and cries about something more mature humans wouldn't even think about getting upset over. If they are going to start adding more mature themes such as disablity, then they can't and shouldn't ignore the rest, or all of it. You can't have one foot in and foot out.
