do the gurus actually look at this forum?

"Cupid;c-16809707" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-16809300" wrote:

I disagree. I’ve seen numerous, very thorough, well phrased topics that went into detail how people would want to see emotions handled, or personalities, the auras, the traits, customizability (or rather the lack of it), you name it and people have pointed out their issues and also elaborated how they’d like to see it in a most constructive way that may feel like bellyaching when you don’t agree, but that doesn’t make it less profound and constructive.

I don't get that. Whether or not I agree with something has virtually nothing to do with whether or not it's constructive. Sometimes someone is just bellyaching and I agree with it. Then there are also times when someone is being constructive but I don't agree with their ideas or what they're saying. There is no correlation. Numerous posts with detailed and constructive feedback exist, yes, but far more numerous are the amount of "xyz is garbage, fix it" posts that are much easier to come by.

"JoAnne65;c-16809300" wrote:
“We want it to look better, it looks very poor.” I mean, people were right about that and it was so obvious that not a lot more was needed for an argument, but I wouldn’t call that subject a feast of constructive criticism.

I didn't call it one either

I’ll repeat the sentences I was reacting to: “ The problem that people had with the ballpits and DSV were more obvious: texture and lot quantity respectively. But when it comes to more complex issues like the emotion system, traits, etc, you tend to see a lot of "this isn't good" and not a lot of input on what should be done with it.”

You are trying to explain the difference there (in your opinion) between constructive criticism and this so called bellyaching. But it’s simply not true. Over the years simmers have expressed their opinions thoroughly here (and in fact developers have proved several times they have listened to some of it by making improvements in the very areas people complained about and suggested solutions for) in ways that impressed me and hooked me to these forums. Because it meant discussing this game I so love. Pages and pages and pages have been written by people giving input what in their view should be done with exactly that, complex issues like the emotion system, traits etc. I find it hard to understand why anyone would qualify all those topics and posts as bellyaching instead of constructive criticism. For a player like me it’s much more important developers see topics like that and try to do something with it, than a topic about an ugly ballpit (like I said, I don’t really see how calling a ballpit ugly is constructive, if anything the posts adressing that were - understandably - far more in line with “it’s garbage, fix it”) and you were suggesting you found the comments about the ballpit constructive because you are trying to explain the difference with complexer issues to Cinebar. We are not the ones here trying to divide this section into ‘bellyaching’ and ‘constructive criticism’ by the way, I perfectly understood why people complained about the ballpit.