do the gurus actually look at this forum?

"JoAnne65;c-16810748" wrote:


I’ll repeat the sentences I was reacting to: “ The problem that people had with the ballpits and DSV were more obvious: texture and lot quantity respectively. But when it comes to more complex issues like the emotion system, traits, etc, you tend to see a lot of "this isn't good" and not a lot of input on what should be done with it.”

You are trying to explain the difference there (in your opinion) between constructive criticism and this so called bellyaching. But it’s simply not true.

No, that's not what I was trying to do with that sentence at all. I already explained that difference much earlier in the thread:

Feedback is constructive when it pinpoints a problem, explains why it's problematic, and suggests a solution.

Which is the format most feedback is given in (according to you):

Over the years simmers have expressed their opinions thoroughly here (and in fact developers have proved several times they have listened to some of it by making improvements in the very areas people complained about and suggested solutions for)...Pages and pages and pages have been written by people giving input what in their view should be done with exactly that, complex issues like the emotion system, traits etc.

"JoAnne65;c-16810748" wrote:
I find it hard to understand why anyone would qualify all those topics and posts as bellyaching instead of constructive criticism.

Well why are you assuming that I would classify all those posts as bellyaching when clearly, they align with my idea of constructive feedback?

"JoAnne65;c-16810748" wrote:
and you were suggesting you found the comments about the ballpit constructive because you are trying to explain the difference with complexer issues to Cinebar.

No.. that isn't at all what I was suggesting. This is what I said (and I left nothing to suggestion, to be honest):

The problem that people had with the ballpits and DSV were more obvious: texture and lot quantity respectively.

All I was saying there was that sometimes it isn't necessary for feedback to be constructive. I felt like the ballpit was one of those situations. So I was actually just saying the opposite of what you thought I was "suggesting." That's why I don't really get why the ballpit keeps coming up when I never really disagreed about it.

You're digging way too deeply into what I'm "trying to say", or what I'm "suggesting." Just read what's actually being said and there isn't much of a disagreement here. The point where we do disagree is the content of the forum. To you, most of the feedback is constructive. I disagree. But oh well? I'm not trying to change your mind about that, that's your experience and your opinion.

I'm not even the one who made the claim that the gurus respond more often to constructive feedback than they do to bellyaching, all I actually did was answer someone's question - and apparently you don't even disagree with my answer because according to you, constructive feedback includes the same things that I outlined... so that's why I'm a little lost as to why I'm having this discussion in the first place.