Fix the Butler!!!

"simstr0ng;c-17582418" wrote:
@SerenityVIII - I gave up on the butler and now use the robot.

@simstr0ng I just started using the Robot in one of my games however I have not yet experienced all that the Robot can do. How do you find the Robot with household tasks and or childcare?

@SerenityVIII - I gave up on the butler and now use the robot.

If I forget to command them to sleep, they will eventually crawl into bed, however they are in an exhausted state at that point and can lead them to be 'unhappy/overworked' and that could lead them to leaving your service. I do not know if this is intended or not. Makes sense if it is.

I mean in the real world if you had a household employee that was hungry, stinky and exhausted, and felt under appreciated, I would imagine they would leave as well.

Suggestion EA - In respect to the sleeping only when they are in the red/exhausted state, maybe a behind the scenes reprogramming to queue them to sleep just prior to entering that exhausted stage or even allowing them rest time (naps for short periods of the day) ? I do not know anything about the programming aspect of it. A warning would be nice ..similar to ones that are given when a toddler is ready to be taken away. Something like -- Butler X is feeling under appreciated, or Butler X is overworked and needs a nap (if they implement such a feature), Butler X is hungry, and then a list of possible resolutions. Butler X may leave your service is these needs are not met for instance. This would clearly without doubt distinguish whether this is an intended game play feature or if you were actually experiencing a game related bug. This may already occur ? I just never let my Butler's needs get out of hand so I have not seen any sort of message.

My Sims also converse with the Butler, play Chess etc.. with the Butler and really make them part of the family or at least I try to include them as such. Even in a simulated game, I dislike treating them as 'hired help'. I try also to pay attention to their emotional state and try to cheer them up etc.. If you praise them (through the Manage Butler interactions), they actually work harder for a bit and get more done in your household. This would lead me to believe that how they are treated could be directly linked to them leaving.

This of course is just my own opinion and I love playing with the Butler and have for years. To be clear my game play experience and opinions/suggestions are not to be taken away from the fact that people may be experiencing actual bugs and technical issues. :)

"SerenityVIII;c-17580266" wrote:
I cannot speak on any specific bug as that is a more technical thing and I am not experiencing any Butler bugs myself, however I know over the years I learned to praise my Butler each day, ensure they had their own bed/bathroom with a bathtub (in my experience they will not use a shower), ensured they had enough time to eat something and I force them to sleep by the manage Butler options every night and send them to bed. Once I started this .. my butler would always stay with me.

My routine - make sure they go to sleep around same time each night, and my Butler gets up/has bath, sits down to eat breakfast, one of my Adult Sims praises him/her and then chats with them for a few Sim minutes then the Butler is off to do chores.

If they were unhappy or I worked them too hard, they would leave and I would get a new one and it was constantly changing. Sometimes you can get bad butlers with undesirable traits and this can cause conflict as well. You can 'get to know them' to find out their traits or edit them directly with the CAS cheat. You can fire the one you do not like and get another Butler.

I haven't had the issue with them leaving the household since I started changing the way my Sims managed them. If everything is provided to them and all their needs are met then I am not quite sure.

Very interesting! I'll pay attention to it next time I play with butlers. In this case, I guess the game could give some kind of warning for us players without ambiguity if there's a problem or not.

I played with butlers on my XOne version and it kept the same old guy, even when I travelled to community lots. I just wished that they would sleep without needed to be ordened.

I cannot speak on any specific bug as that is a more technical thing and I am not experiencing any Butler bugs myself, however I know over the years I learned to praise my Butler each day, ensure they had their own bed/bathroom with a bathtub (in my experience they will not use a shower), ensured they had enough time to eat something and I force them to sleep by the manage Butler options every night and send them to bed. Once I started this .. my butler would always stay with me.

My routine - make sure they go to sleep around same time each night, and my Butler gets up/has bath, sits down to eat breakfast, one of my Adult Sims praises him/her and then chats with them for a few Sim minutes then the Butler is off to do chores.

If they were unhappy or I worked them too hard, they would leave and I would get a new one and it was constantly changing. Sometimes you can get bad butlers with undesirable traits and this can cause conflict as well. You can 'get to know them' to find out their traits or edit them directly with the CAS cheat. You can fire the one you do not like and get another Butler.

I haven't had the issue with them leaving the household since I started changing the way my Sims managed them. If everything is provided to them and all their needs are met then I am not quite sure.

Is buying the pack mainly for the butler worth it? I dont care for items so if the butler is not good i wont get it.

I got a Klepto paparazzi that ruined my famous Sim's business in Get to Work by stealing everything I was trying to sell. They were also rude and refused to leave the store when asked so I trapped them and killed them. My butler is doing fine though and I haven't got a klepto butler yet but when I do they will die.

This is the same old song and dance we have been complaining about ever since a new pack right after they introduced butlers. It's been years.

Folks y'all got to complete a bug report. This forum isn't it.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/bd-p/The-Sims-4-Bugs

My biggest issue is that my choices aren't saved. For example, if I want my butler to answer the door, stop gardening, stop repairing, etc. I have to choose those options again every time a new butler is assigned or I switch households. It might also reset when traveling; I'm not sure.