I hope the pack has mermaids

I think occult life states are best suited for their own GP, like Vampires. I think vampires showed how amazing they can be when given the individual attention, and it allows for realistic players to avoid them by just not buying the GP. When in an EP, it's a lot harder to avoid if you want all the other features.

That being said, I really DO hope if we get some kind of Island Paradise-like expansion, it has mermaids as a life state. This is the only occult I think deserves to be in an EP and would be unfair to have otherwise, and that's because they are dependent on a lot of interactions not available in the base game. Vampires, witches, werewolves, fairies, whatever have you, they can be added in. But Mermaids would likely require swimable ocean and dive spots: things that would unlock in a tropical EP if they add scuba diving, surfing, snorkeling, etc. To separate mermaids out from the EP into a separate GP would likely mean the GP would require you have this EP to get it. Unless they patched the base game to include these things (and why would they, it would defeat the purpose if buying the EP to begin with), I could see it being very controversial. Players would be forced to buy a whole EP for one GP they were interested in.

If we don't get mermaids in the EP, then I don't think we'd get them period for the reason above. I think they'd be too complex/controversial to add as their own GP later. And I don't pretend to think we will have very occult lifestate we had before in TS3. But, the players who like supernatural aspects are a big part of the fanbase and they've constantly gotten the short end of the stick this time around. And I don't want it at the expense of everyone else's happiness, I want it in addition to their happiness. I want realistic players to get university, and hotels, and a snowy vacation spot, and all that they ask for. I just hope, as a community, even if it means more waiting for us when something we wanted doesn't come out but something someone else did does, we can be happy for them and in return they can respect our disappointment.

I feel super natural players deserve, at the very least, witches, vampires, mermaids and werewolves before TS4 wraps up. I feel those four are very basic and offer enough different styles of play with differentiating enough themes to capitalize on. Of course I'd like everything, but I can see them skipping zombies, fairies, and genies more easily. And I think they do want to start adding them back in. With the Strangerville GP and the recent poll asking what the top lifestate was, it tells me they are aware of the demand and trying to ease into it.

In my mind, mermaids would fit right in this EP and be one of the few Lifestates I think shouldn't be in their own GP. It would be great though, if they made it so that mermaids didn't appear in the game unless you did a simple but specific action (like read a book on mermaid folklore or splash seawater on a mermaid statue in town). That way, realistic players wouldn't be bothered by them and occult players could still enjoy them! In theory, they wouldn't even take that much to make. You could essentially take the concept of vampires and re-skin it by replacing the dark form with a sea form and swapping out the abilities. It would be mostly cosmetic: still a lot of animations to make and brainstorm, but you wouldn't be coding it from the ground up!

Same. Honestly, Island Paradise was one of the best sims experiences I've had in general. The exploration which lead to discovery of mermaids was so incredibly fun.

I hope we get ladders! They came with island paradise last time, aaaaahhhhh that woulds be so amazing, call me crazy but I think I'd honestly buy it JUST for that.

Also mermaids are amazing and there are different types we could make, either more fish like, or less, with tails or just leg scales, cute helpful collectors, or beautiful evil tricksters. Im happy with any or all of it.

Lol how funny would it be if they gave us some mermaids where the top half is the fish XD

"aveniceglass;c-17072334" wrote:
I hope we get ladders! They came with island paradise last time, aaaaahhhhh that woulds be so amazing, call me crazy but I think I'd honestly buy it JUST for that.

So many tiny-house builds would benefit.

Yay, mermaids and deep ocean with creatures that lets sim to discover. Possible to add a new diving skill?

"Horrorgirl6;c-17071885" wrote:
Personally, I'm going to get hate for this. They're not a lot of life states that could fit into game packs. People keep using Vampires. Ignoring that vampires had a lot of pop culture, and lore. Others like mermaids, fairies, robots, plants sims imaginary friend. Don't have a lot a lore that c I can not see in separate game packs.I can see a big expansion pack.

Sorry but that's just objectively false. Mermaids, fairies, and robots have a lot of lore. Lore can also be created, the devs could add their own that fits TS4. Mermaids could come with their own underwater world and powers like vampires do. Around the world there are different versions of mermaids and sirens who are dark and malevolent, not cute Disney type mermaids who only sing which is what you're probably thinking about.

And I suggest you look into Irish and Scottish mythology about fairies. They are far more than tiny people with wings and have arguably the most lore of all fantasy species. As for robots, haven't you ever seen a movie lmao? Anything involving advanced technology and artificial intelligence works as lore for them.

I really dont understand this belief among many in the sims community that only Vampires have enough individuality to get their own pack. Most of the lifestates could easily have their own GP. It's just that y'all dont know much about the other supernaturals to care for them , and mainstream media promotes vampire, werewolf (and lately, witch) stories more than any other mythological creature so you're convinced there is "better" content for them.

"mika;c-17072882" wrote:

"Horrorgirl6;c-17071885" wrote:
Personally, I'm going to get hate for this. They're not a lot of life states that could fit into game packs. People keep using Vampires. Ignoring that vampires had a lot of pop culture, and lore. Others like mermaids, fairies, robots, plants sims imaginary friend. Don't have a lot a lore that c I can not see in separate game packs.I can see a big expansion pack.

Sorry but that's just objectively false. Mermaids, fairies, and robots have a lot of lore. Lore can also be created, the devs could add their own that fits TS4. Mermaids could come with their own underwater world and powers like vampires do. Around the world there are different versions of mermaids and sirens who are dark and malevolent, not cute Disney type mermaids who only sing which is what you're probably thinking about.

And I suggest you look into Irish and Scottish mythology about fairies. They are far more than tiny people with wings and have arguably the most lore of all fantasy species. As for robots, haven't you ever seen a movie lmao? Anything involving advanced technology and artificial intelligence works as lore for them.

I really dont understand this belief among many in the sims community that only Vampires have enough individuality to get their own pack. Most of the lifestates could easily have their own GP. It's just that y'all dont know much about the other supernaturals to care for them , and mainstream media promotes vampire, werewolf (and lately, witch) stories more than any other mythological creature so you're convinced there is "better" content for them.

Did you had to be snarky? Yes I know they are lore from other countries.I have read some of them.Im fan of monsters,and supernatural creatures.To me there is still not a lot of lore or pop culture that can go to separate pack.Witches I can see maybe.Faries no and mermaids. I did not also said they can't be dark or evil.

There also stuff you can't do in gameplay.Take the sirens? What can you do with Sirens. You can't kill anybody in the game . I guess you can make the power to make a sim fall in love with you

Also, my point is not every supernatural creature can be in their own pack. Do you rely believe stuff like Genie, plant sims, imaginary friends, and every sim life stage can be in their own pack.I personally don't.


Please stop judging me or others, because I don't have the same opinion as you do.

Now, now. Mika was not rude or snarky at all. She stated her opinion strongly and well, and included facts. Let's play nice, simmers.

"ElizabethMc;c-17073055" wrote:
Now, now. Mika was not rude or snarky at all. She stated her opinion strongly and well, and included facts. Let's play nice, simmers.

Apparently disagreeing is rude lmao. Those two (especially Dannydanbo) have attacked me for my opinion and on my own threads before so I honestly should have just blocked/reported them by now, my mistake for engaging with immature people. Thanks for understanding I wasn't being rude.

"Horrorgirl6;c-17072963" wrote:

"mika;c-17072882" wrote:

"Horrorgirl6;c-17071885" wrote:
Personally, I'm going to get hate for this. They're not a lot of life states that could fit into game packs. People keep using Vampires. Ignoring that vampires had a lot of pop culture, and lore. Others like mermaids, fairies, robots, plants sims imaginary friend. Don't have a lot a lore that c I can not see in separate game packs.I can see a big expansion pack.

Sorry but that's just objectively false. Mermaids, fairies, and robots have a lot of lore. Lore can also be created, the devs could add their own that fits TS4. Mermaids could come with their own underwater world and powers like vampires do. Around the world there are different versions of mermaids and sirens who are dark and malevolent, not cute Disney type mermaids who only sing which is what you're probably thinking about.

And I suggest you look into Irish and Scottish mythology about fairies. They are far more than tiny people with wings and have arguably the most lore of all fantasy species. As for robots, haven't you ever seen a movie lmao? Anything involving advanced technology and artificial intelligence works as lore for them.

I really dont understand this belief among many in the sims community that only Vampires have enough individuality to get their own pack. Most of the lifestates could easily have their own GP. It's just that y'all dont know much about the other supernaturals to care for them , and mainstream media promotes vampire, werewolf (and lately, witch) stories more than any other mythological creature so you're convinced there is "better" content for them.

Did you had to be snarky? Yes I know they are lore from other countries.I have read some of them.Im fan of monsters,and supernatural creatures.To me there is still not a lot of lore or pop culture that can go to separate pack.Witches I can see maybe.Faries no and mermaids. I did not also said they can't be dark or evil.

There also stuff you can't do in gameplay.Take the sirens? What can you do with Sirens. You can't kill anybody in the game . I guess you can make the power to make a sim fall in love with you

Also, my point is not every supernatural creature can be in their own pack. Do you rely believe stuff like Genie, plant sims, imaginary friends, and every sim life stage can be in their own pack.I personally don't.


Please stop judging me or others, because I don't have the same opinion as you do.

I wasn't being "snarky", I have not insulted you or your perspective at all. People are allowed to disagree with your claims, it's not my problem if you get offended by it.