If something new is shown at EA Play regarding The Sims Franchise, what do you think it will be?

"simgirl1010;c-16355144" wrote:

"Erpe;c-16354849" wrote:

"paradiseplanet;c-16354794" wrote:
Guys, guys, can't we all just wait until June to finally do the "I told you so" posts? I'd rather just wait and see so this silly arguing can subside and then the latest argument about what is revealed begins.

Agreed :)

For me it isn’t about “I told you so” though because I am just curios to see if TS5 will be announced and released at the time that I see as much the most likely and also to see how it will be different from TS2, TS3 and TS4?

It is just a little hard for me not to answer when somebody claims to have found “proof” that TS5 won’t be released until 2020, 2022 or 2025 :)

No one is claiming to have absolute proof. It's no different than the article you linked to in another thread showing possible release dates for console dlc. That doesn't 'prove' anything. It's all speculation until EA announces it. And the only argument you have for a June announcement of Sims 5 is "that's the way it's always been done." Don't forget a popular phrase from several years ago. Things change.

Yes things change. Just rarely without a reason.

What doesn’t convince me is the simmers who claim that the gurus have said that TS4 won’t stop after 5 years like all the previous games but without anybody being able to link to such a statement anywhere.

The link about the console expansions says that all the planned release dates are from a usually trustworthy retailer in Switzerland. This means that the dates actually are from EA. So the only problem about those dates is that most of them are so far out in the future that there is a risk about EA changing plans. Still EA seems to be in a hurry about releasing packs for the console game much faster than for the PC game. This again indicates that EA just want them out before TS5 is released.

About toddlers being planned:

"SimGuruNinja;c-15457801" wrote:
TL;DR It's been part of the plan for a long time. We knew folks wanted it and so did we. We've been working on them throughout a lot of the "endless feedback".

Longer explanation:
Toddlers are something we've desperately wanted to do since we launched. And for free as a patch too - not paid content. We felt strongly about that and it was very important to us. It took time to get everything in order (balancing SP, GP, EP, and free content development simultaneously is no easy task. It's actually quite challenging). Simple as that.

Trust me, at several points we wanted to scream from the highest mountaintop "THEY'RE COMING!" but were simply unable to. So we kept our heads down, weathered the repeated feedback, and did our best to get quality content into your hands as soon as we possibly could.

With a little luck we've made Simmers happier today and given them something to enjoy.
I hope you all enjoy it too! You deserve it!

"IceyJ;c-16352929" wrote:
I'm not sure if these are the quotes you're looking for @Zeldaboy180 but here's a blog post and a Q&A.

"I'm not exaggerating when I say we've been talking about this particular update for years. We just had to find the right time, resources and design to allow us to start the heavy process of actually building and bringing Toddlers to life." - SimGuru Lindsay

SimGuruDrake pretty much says the same thing at the bottom of the Q & A. If there was an actual forum post from her it very likely got deleted.

Hope you’ll excuse me, but this all sounds very dishonest to me, explaining away in retrospect to make all the backlash around toddlers sound unjustified and unnecessary, especially with Rachel Franklin’s statements in mind when Sims 4 was less than a year old.

Interviewer: I was trying to check last night, and you still don’t have toddlers?

RF: No.

GC: Is that something that’s going to come later, in maybe the next expansion? Since that is one of the main things fans are still asking for.

RF: You know, our fans ask for a lot of things! And here’s the thing, we look at a lot of different factors. We look absolutely at things that are being said in public forums. We also have groups of fans coming in, but we also have telemetry to tell us what people are actually playing with and using.

GC: It almost reminds me of a Kickstarter project, where you have all these ideas and demands coming in and you have to push back against some of them.

RF: I think it gets factored in. I would say it’s less of a push back and more of a,’How are we taking that into account and weighing it against all the other influences?’

GC: So you’re satisfied that not having toddlers was the right choice?

RF: That’s the decision that we made based on all of the information that we had at the time. So absolutely, I feel like it’s the best decision for the game to date. I’m not talking about future stuff. But I do think it’s important to know, that players play in very different ways. We see all kinds of different play styles and family players are very passionate, so are players that play other ways.

And I want to make sure that all of those voices are considered when people are thinking about whether or not we’ve included the right things. Because we do, we take it very seriously about whether or not we’re approaching all of those different play styles. We take it just as seriously as the players do that are asking for the things that they want.

Sounds to me nothing was settled back then. It was nothing more than a possibility, an option. An option that probably got very serious once they discovered the community was not planning to be silent and accepting about this. If not, they have been playing with player’s feelings and patience. For that I just have one word: yuck.

I know at best buy the placeholder date for the Sims 5 is 2019. So I imagine any time after 2019 the sims 5 will come out.

"auroraael14;c-16356003" wrote:
I know at best buy the placeholder date for the Sims 5 is 2019. So I imagine any time after 2019 the sims 5 will come out.

I’d say early 2020. Unfortunately place holder dates can only be placed so far and normally show up as 12/01/19 or 12/31/19 it’s more like you can preorder but there’s no telling when it’s coming. Why Best Buy has a place holder is beyond me they can’t really place one with out it being officially announced. Unless they’ve leaked it by mistake.

I don't know why either honestly. I went in there looking for SimCity 5 but he misunderstood me and thought I said the sims 5 and was gone for like ten minutes and came back and said it had a placeholder date of 2019 and this was a year and a half ago.

"MidnightAura;c-16349064" wrote:
Something is going on with select game changers away to San Francisco for meetings.

Are they seriously relying on their Game Changers for feedback and help with future planning? They all seem like nothing but Yes Men. Seriously, can anyone name a single game changer that's critical of their designs or even suggests new ideas? My experience watching their content has mostly been that they go through CAS, click on every hairstyle, say "omg I love it" and then declare the pack amazing.

I sincerely hope there's another purpose to those meetings, because inviting a bunch of teens or young adults to tell you how much they love your plans doesn't really sound productive. If they were doing this, I'd just expect more of the same.

"DeservedCriticism;c-16357148" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-16349064" wrote:
Something is going on with select game changers away to San Francisco for meetings.

Are they seriously relying on their Game Changers for feedback and help with future planning? They all seem like nothing but Yes Men. Seriously, can anyone name a single game changer that's critical of their designs or even suggests new ideas? My experience watching their content has mostly been that they go through CAS, click on every hairstyle, say "omg I love it" and then declare the pack amazing.

I sincerely hope there's another purpose to those meetings, because inviting a bunch of teens or young adults to tell you how much they love your plans doesn't really sound productive. If they were doing this, I'd just expect more of the same.

''Oh my god, this is soooo cute!''
''Oh my god, I love it''
''Oh my god there is so many stuff you guys!''

''Oh they really outdid themselves this time!''

Yeah, the ''Game Changers'' aren't the most objective people to rely on when it comes to reviews.

"DeservedCriticism;c-16357148" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-16349064" wrote:
Something is going on with select game changers away to San Francisco for meetings.

Are they seriously relying on their Game Changers for feedback and help with future planning? They all seem like nothing but Yes Men. Seriously, can anyone name a single game changer that's critical of their designs or even suggests new ideas? My experience watching their content has mostly been that they go through CAS, click on every hairstyle, say "omg I love it" and then declare the pack amazing.

I sincerely hope there's another purpose to those meetings, because inviting a bunch of teens or young adults to tell you how much they love your plans doesn't really sound productive. If they were doing this, I'd just expect more of the same.

I agree. Let’s hope that’s not the case. But you don’t fly them all the way to California for “secret meetings” just to talk about a new cas item.

Regardless whatever that's coming is Sims 5 or not, I will never support Sims 5 if it continues the legacy of disappointments of Sims 4.