Kit Packs: Yay or Nay?

At the moment, nah. Even if I end up buying into some of them, I won't be happy about it lol.

vacuum cleaners...T_T

Part of it is that I am old.
There is at least one generation of players who has never lived in a world WITHOUT micro transactions in 90% of games and therefore can't imagine why it would be bad, it is just normal to them.

It is even more evident in other countries; Korea for example has done it much longer than the US or Europe; I once brought up the issue not knowing the other two people I talked to were from SK and they literally didn't understand what I was going in about; it's just normal business practice to them.

I DO think this is a test bed for Sims 5; I am 100% sure that the base game of Sims 5 will be much much more lacking than Sims 4, but you will be able to buy individual mechanics, not to mention virtually all CAS items, like in the Sims 3 store. Or in a lot of mobile games.
Basically a YA Sim will only have one of each kind of clothing, maybe in two different colors and if you want your Sim to have a jacket you'll have to buy it for real money. If you don't want all your houses to only use one type of door and one type of window? Same thing.
Do you want more than one single career? That's 5 dollars thank you. Btw the jacket is 2 dollars and the window and door together is 11 dollars because it comes in three color variants.

I am 100% certain this is how Sims 5 will be. Not exaggerating.

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17817323" wrote:

"SimmerGeorge;c-17817244" wrote:

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17817241" wrote:

Or did I misinterpret this whole thing? Either way, I’m not surprised by the responses you got.

@CAPTAIN_NXR7 If you read my post again you will see I tried to make it very clear that I was talking about me and me only. I said "In my opinion" and "to me" several times in order to avoid people feeling like I'm telling them to be the same way. So yeah I see no reason for this when I said "for me" several times.

So I don't see how voicing my opinion "minimized" any other opinions especially because I was not even replying to anyone. I said my own opinion.

I suppose I referred to your personal opinion of others who “irresponsibly” buy these packs and potentially kill the gaming industry. But that’s only me reading between the lines. No you did not direct this at anyone in particular.
All I’m trying to say is don’t be surprised by the responses you got.

I agree that we have to remain conscious of some of the things we do, buy, support.

And then there are times when folks would love a vacuum cleaner in their game. One vacuum cleaner. I suppose they can express their excitement without feeling they’ve been sent on a consumerism guilt trip. It’s a virtual vacuum cleaner for crying out loud. It does less harm to the environment than my nail clippers. Which was also a fiver. And probably less fun.

@CAPTAIN_NXR7 Do I have to quote myself saying "IN MY OPINION it is irresponsible". That means that if I think it's irresponsible that doesn't mean anyone else should think the same or feel guilty. If you feel guilty then that's your fault not mine.

I'm allowed to express my opinion without being called out on it like every one of you is. This is my opinion and you don't have to agree period. If my opinion makes you feel guilty then that's not my fault, it's probably that you feel guilty anyway. I just said what I believe like everyone is allowed to. Please stop trying to make this something that it isn't cause it's not fair.

Also when I say impact on environment I don't mean the actual CLIMATE. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

"Pamtastic72;c-17817143" wrote:

"simgirl1010;c-17816926" wrote:
Guess I'm irresponsible then. And there are a lot more important things that would keep me from sleeping at night than a kit pack for a video game.

Ditto, I’m just here putting cortisone on my itchy wallet until they tell me when I can purchase these. If I am responsible for the downfall of civilization then so be it. It’s not like I’m going to notice since I will be playing with my sims anyway.

Um, could you pass over the cortisone please? :D

I will always jump at the chance of getting stuff for the game at cheaper than stuff packs. If I don't want it, I won't buy it. I am a fully mature adult and I will do as I please as far as my simmies are concerned. <3

After having most of the day to not make a rash reaction. I will wait an see what the price of these new kit packs are. I will only consider them if they are under £5 and it really depends on what comes with them. It's frustrating as I suspect these new kit packs will have more content then the early stuff packs i.e. luxury party. It does seem a cash grab but all games these days seem a cash grab so I am not surprised.

"Beardedgeek;c-17817333" wrote:
Part of it is that I am old.
There is at least one generation of players who has never lived in a world WITHOUT micro transactions in 90% of games and therefore can't imagine why it would be bad, it is just normal to them.

It is even more evident in other countries; Korea for example has done it much longer than the US or Europe; I once brought up the issue not knowing the other two people I talked to were from SK and they literally didn't understand what I was going in about; it's just normal business practice to them.

I DO think this is a test bed for Sims 5; I am 100% sure that the base game of Sims 5 will be much much more lacking than Sims 4, but you will be able to buy individual mechanics, not to mention virtually all CAS items, like in the Sims 3 store. Or in a lot of mobile games.
Basically a YA Sim will only have one of each kind of clothing, maybe in two different colors and if you want your Sim to have a jacket you'll have to buy it for real money. If you don't want all your houses to only use one type of door and one type of window? Same thing.
Do you want more than one single career? That's 5 dollars thank you. Btw the jacket is 2 dollars and the window and door together is 11 dollars because it comes in three color variants.

I am 100% certain this is how Sims 5 will be. Not exaggerating.

If Sims 5 is online, you're probably right that this will be how content will be delivered. I have a smidgen of hope that it may not be, but just tiny bit. Dragon Age 4 is going to be single player -- the multiplayer part was scrapped. So it's possible that EA will stick with their mobile games for online and have Sims 5 be single player.

The kits that were announced (or leaked) do not look interesting to me. My main concern is that the kits will end up being MFPS on steroids. I like extra content. I don't like content being stripped out of packs and released separately.

"Felicity;c-17817476" wrote:

"Beardedgeek;c-17817333" wrote:
Part of it is that I am old.
There is at least one generation of players who has never lived in a world WITHOUT micro transactions in 90% of games and therefore can't imagine why it would be bad, it is just normal to them.

It is even more evident in other countries; Korea for example has done it much longer than the US or Europe; I once brought up the issue not knowing the other two people I talked to were from SK and they literally didn't understand what I was going in about; it's just normal business practice to them.

I DO think this is a test bed for Sims 5; I am 100% sure that the base game of Sims 5 will be much much more lacking than Sims 4, but you will be able to buy individual mechanics, not to mention virtually all CAS items, like in the Sims 3 store. Or in a lot of mobile games.
Basically a YA Sim will only have one of each kind of clothing, maybe in two different colors and if you want your Sim to have a jacket you'll have to buy it for real money. If you don't want all your houses to only use one type of door and one type of window? Same thing.
Do you want more than one single career? That's 5 dollars thank you. Btw the jacket is 2 dollars and the window and door together is 11 dollars because it comes in three color variants.

I am 100% certain this is how Sims 5 will be. Not exaggerating.

If Sims 5 is online, you're probably right that this will be how content will be delivered. I have a smidgen of hope that it may not be, but just tiny bit. Dragon Age 4 is going to be single player -- the multiplayer part was scrapped. So it's possible that EA will stick with their mobile games for online and have Sims 5 be single player.

The kits that were announced (or leaked) do not look interesting to me. My main concern is that the kits will end up being MFPS on steroids. I like extra content. I don't like content being stripped out of packs and released separately.

Yeah I read about that too, Anthem was so unsuccessful that Dragon Age 4 will be single player so there is a small hope that EA might not be as interested in making the sims5 online because it could go the same way as Anthem. There was this article published recently from IGN as well.

https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1364779908937912320

So who knows, but it's still EA we are talking about and they still want to make huge profits, so kits will probably be a part of the sims 5 (if they will sell well) but maybe Maxis will have more control and can decide what the sims5 will be.

"SimmerGeorge;c-17817342" wrote:

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17817323" wrote:

"SimmerGeorge;c-17817244" wrote:

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17817241" wrote:

Or did I misinterpret this whole thing? Either way, I’m not surprised by the responses you got.

@CAPTAIN_NXR7 If you read my post again you will see I tried to make it very clear that I was talking about me and me only. I said "In my opinion" and "to me" several times in order to avoid people feeling like I'm telling them to be the same way. So yeah I see no reason for this when I said "for me" several times.

So I don't see how voicing my opinion "minimized" any other opinions especially because I was not even replying to anyone. I said my own opinion.

I suppose I referred to your personal opinion of others who “irresponsibly” buy these packs and potentially kill the gaming industry. But that’s only me reading between the lines. No you did not direct this at anyone in particular.
All I’m trying to say is don’t be surprised by the responses you got.

I agree that we have to remain conscious of some of the things we do, buy, support.

And then there are times when folks would love a vacuum cleaner in their game. One vacuum cleaner. I suppose they can express their excitement without feeling they’ve been sent on a consumerism guilt trip. It’s a virtual vacuum cleaner for crying out loud. It does less harm to the environment than my nail clippers. Which was also a fiver. And probably less fun.

@CAPTAIN_NXR7 Do I have to quote myself saying "IN MY OPINION it is irresponsible". That means that if I think it's irresponsible that doesn't mean anyone else should think the same or feel guilty. If you feel guilty then that's your fault not mine.

I'm allowed to express my opinion without being called out on it like every one of you is. This is my opinion and you don't have to agree period. If my opinion makes you feel guilty then that's not my fault, it's probably that you feel guilty anyway. I just said what I believe like everyone is allowed to. Please stop trying to make this something that it isn't cause it's not fair.
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I get what youre saying no worries ? sometime when you express how you feel about something, when you have a strong opinion 20 people like to jump up to oppose it for some reason. Its your own opinion, youre entitled to it, and you're not pushing it on others, you're just saying how you feel about it. ?

I didn't vote, because there were two options that are equal in consideration for me, and those are price and content. In terms of price, Sims packs in Australia can range from around $15 up to $50, so I would expect a kit pack to be a maximum of $5. In terms of content, I would want it to be something that I think is needed in the game, something I would use (eg better clothing & hair options for men, perhaps even a 'grooming kit'), and something I'm not likely to be able to find in any other expansion, game or stuff pack. If it didn't meet both the price point and content criteria, for me at least, I wouldn't be interested.

I would say it depends on the content & the price. I'll appreciate if it's adding more feature/gameplay than stuffs only. TBH, I haven't used every stuffs in BB/CAS but for the gameplay/feature, the more the better.