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7 years ago
"v12creator;c-16398282" wrote:"JoAnne65;c-16397857" wrote:"v12creator;c-16397588" wrote:"JoAnne65;c-16394170" wrote:"v12creator;c-16391583" wrote:"candy8;c-16391484" wrote:
I agree with LG I did not buy this pack but I could see that it would be waste of money unless you want new outfits for you cat or dog. The whole Sims 4 really is bad in comparison to Sims 3 over all it is a joke.
Personally i think they are both flawed, Thesims3 has too much content but the sims thenselves are lackluster and the game is a buggy mess, Thesims4 has smarter sims and is more stable but lacks content, both suffer the whole experience due to basegame design decisions (Bad sims/Bad world design) and with constant cash grabs on part of the DLC cycle. Thesims3 with the store and Thesims4 with the stuff packs.
But i personally prefer smarter sims and Gamepacks to Thesims3 simpoints and bigger world even if it has more content so i must disagree and say thesims4 is better but not by a huge leap, honestly Thesims2 is still the better game in general, even with its ugly graphics and closed map.
EDIT : I am NOT buying this pack by the way as i, too,think it is rubbish.
In what way are sims in 4 smarter? And what exactly is smart in a game anyway? My sims in 3 take care of themselves and when I don’t instruct them they do varied things. Most of the time I tell them what to do though, because it’s a game and I want to play it, not watch it. How much smarter do you want them to be? Sims 4 doesn’t have any bugs, I’ll give you that. Nobody complaining about that. Nor does the game need mods.
As for Sims 2 graphics, maaaah..., I don’t know.
It is true. Thesims2 graphics are bad but it is a more fun game in my opinion, it is light on the computer, its the right amount of challenge at times and can be umpredictble in a good way. Thesims4 sims are "smarter" because their A.I behavior is way better than thesims3, i used to play at SunsetValley for most of my time, i would often find out that most sims are not doing anything, the sims tend outside my household tended to stay static at obnoxious places such as infront of the horse camp, get stuck on simple interaction due to pathing and in general behaving more like robots than people, for a people simulator that is a bad thing and Thesims4 is much better, but still not as good as Thesims2, in that regard.
As far as bugs go, i have every GP and EP for Thesims4 aside from the last two (Pets and Jungle) one or two Stuff Packs and a shitton of cosmetic CC* but hardly got any bug ever aside from eventual minor lagg and i play it on a laptop, got bugs with thesims2 but only in windows 10 with the complete collection due to being an old game and my thesims3...needed mods to not destroy itself (Mind you,even when played on my high end desktop).
The problem with Thesims4 is not the bugs or the A.I its EA/Maxis obsessive greed with their DLC sales strategy and pricing as well as its constant lack of content because EA focus on stuff packs ratter than game and expansions packs for thesims4 because it wants to drain money from it and invest on things that will not work such as the new simsonline or whatever it is called because EA is too arrogant to admit mistakes.
Sims 2 graphics in fact are more detailed in some respects than 3’s and 4’s. If you play on highest settings. And as for static and obnoxious behaviour, that’s probably your processor, not the game. I opened my game yesterday just to do some testing (see how FPS was doing). In IP. I zoomed out and zoomed in (testing) and at one point I zoomed in at the town center. It was late at night but I saw a sim walking there. Got curious (I recognized him, it was a former roommate of my sim) so I followed him. He went into the fire station, sat down and started to play a video game. After a while three other sims entered the building. They were all sims I had created when I started this generation to give my sim colleagues. I wanted her to be a firefighter so all these sims were firefighters (she was at home btw, sleeping). They started talking to each other. That’s my Sims 3 game, that’s how sims behave in my game. They constantly do stuff and they do different, varied stuff. But like I said, that is processor related. And as for mods, I played Sims 3 modless for 4 years but it’s absolutely true the 2 main NRaas mods (Errortrap and Overwatch) help the game big time. I just don’t think that’s any different for Sims 4 though. Adding DLC, the set up of this game, makes it vulnerable and bug sensitive. I’ve always been quite capable to live with it (making sure I always had backups I could return to) because I love the game. It’s annoying, bugs, sure, but not enough to totally spoil the experience. For that it doesn’t happen often enough. I think that will be the same for Sims 4 fans. I’d rather be absorbed in an occasionally buggy game than bored in a flawless game, that’s for sure.
You can belive whatever you want if that makes you happy, honestly my computer run games way more detailed and consuming than Thesims3 such as JustCause3 so honestly i just have to call bull on that. Honestly Thesims3 makes me bored anyway because of how the sims behave just spoils the fun i could have with it's vast content, the bugs are also frustating and did in fact spoil the experience as insult to injure in the end, but that is me and my firsthand game experience so you have to forgive me if i take it over your argument any day.
I also would like to point out that just a few sims in a whole town randomly walking on a specific lot just does not make it up honestly, thesims4 still does make a better job in that regard to the community lot activity and even more does thesims2 so (with 20 or more sims doing individual and group things on the same lot), perhaps its just that EA doesnt know how to balance both constant activity and an open ,editable map on thesims series, so the more open the world, the more dead it is, unless it is static in a way, like thesimsmedieval.
But as i said before, that is not the main problem here, the development team takes a lot of time to trow out a expansion or game pack and when they finally do it has been dissapointing for most part, i do have to say that their behavior toward the community , sales strategy and Expansion quality did really go down in the last year.
I made a video once of a Sims 3 party where I instructed nobody. I invited a bunch of sims over, pressed play and set back to see what would happen (even the one sim I controlled here I left to her devices).
Did this for someone stating similar things as you, normally I don’t play this way. But as you can see they’re far from just standing there doing nothing. First they all started dancing. The second time (I had to redo it because somehow my videos break when I record too long) they all chose to socialize (from a wide range of different options, not just blablabla) or use items (mixing, the juice keg and the pool table). So no, it’s not a matter of ‘believing’. It’s a matter of experience. Sure Sims 3 worlds aren’t crowded (it’s better when I send my sim somewhere, I get up to ten sims then; not always but I actually like that), but let’s not change your own subject: sims not doing anything. They are, even at night when your own sim is asleep. You can also tell in winter, when you take your sim to town and you see all the snowmen and igloos everywhere. What do they do in Sims 4? In my game most of the time they just walk by (in some mood related walking style) and that’s it. Or they in fact just stand there, doing nothing.