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- I disagree with his review. In my opinion, this pack has done a lot better than other Stuff Packs. This pack had a lot more content than I expected for $10.
I think LGR is a good guy, but I don't think his reviews have been useful as of late. There's only so many ways he can say "there's too much DLC," and he doesn't seem to actually get around to reviewing the actual product in a balanced manner. He should have framed his review around, "if you like knitting, then this is why you will/ won't enjoy this pack." Instead, I feel like his review is basically "I'm not interested in this pack, you probably aren't either, and there's too much DLC." Not exactly helpful to people that were interested in Knitting, since the community basically voted for it anyway.
And for everyone complaining about this series overstaying it's welcome, the Sims 5 won't be any better. Unless you enjoy subscription based games and microtransactions.
I also didn't care for his review of Eco Lifestyle. I myself am critical of that pack, but I didn't agree with his reasons for disliking the pack.
And before anyone attacks me, I am allowed to critique his reviews. I'm quite vocal about my criticism of the series, so it has nothing to do with being critical. "bixters;c-17596316" wrote:
I disagree with his review. In my opinion, this pack has done a lot better than other Stuff Packs. This pack had a lot more content than I expected for $10.
I think LGR is a good guy, but I don't think his reviews have been useful as of late. There's only so many ways he can say "there's too much DLC," and he doesn't seem to actually get around to reviewing the actual product in a balanced manner. He should have framed his review around, "if you like knitting, then this is why you will/ won't enjoy this pack." Instead, I feel like his review is basically "I'm not interested in this pack, you probably aren't either, and there's too much DLC." Not exactly helpful to people that were interested in Knitting, since the community basically voted for it anyway.
And for everyone complaining about this series overstaying it's welcome, the Sims 5 won't be any better. Unless you enjoy subscription based games and microtransactions.
I also didn't care for his review of Eco Lifestyle. I myself am critical of that pack, but I didn't agree with his reasons for disliking the pack.
And before anyone attacks me, I am allowed to critique his reviews. I'm quite vocal about my criticism of the series, so it has nothing to do with being critical.
But the question is how can you be interested in knitting? It's just one animation so you can unlock the bb and CAS from this pack and that's it. There is not much to do rather than watch the sims do one animation over and over and as the top comment put it: "This could have easily been one of the activities in a full arts and crafts pack"
EA seems to be splitting up occults, activities etc in small fractions so they can sell more content and they are not necessarily always more "fleshed-out", it just looks that way. I just cannot grasp how people aren't seeing that.
Stuff packs in the Sims 5 will probably be like "The Sims 5 poopy toilet stuff" now with more in-depth gameplay than ever!
And people will be like "yeah we had pooping in the previous games but never as fleshed out so I will gladly pay 10 bucks"."SimmerGeorge;c-17596334" wrote:
But the question is how can you be interested in knitting? It's just one animation so you can unlock the bb and CAS from this pack and that's it. There is not much to do rather than watch the sims do one animation over and over and as the top comment put it: "This could have easily been one of the activities in a full arts and crafts pack"
EA seems to be splitting up occults, activities etc in small fractions so they can sell more content and they are not necessarily always more "fleshed-out", it just looks that way. I just cannot grasp how people aren't seeing that.
It sounds like the people that voted for knitting are interested in it.
And what do people expect from a $10 stuff pack? They only have a limited amount of resources for this pack. And in my opinion, they did try their best to fit as much as they could in this pack.
People need to be able review a product within its scope. Yes, we all know EA is terrible for dividing up content, but we should still be able to look at a product made by developers and evaluate it fairly. They did the best they could within a Stuff Pack focus. This was never going to be a game pack. It's not the fault of the pack, it's the fault of EA's budgeting.
Trust me, I've been very critical of the packs and this series, I just don't think his review was helpful for people who might have actually been interested in Knitting."Missmagoo2;c-17596314" wrote:
"crocobaura;c-17594964" wrote:
Didn't we vote on the content and already knew what was going to be in the pack?
Kinda but not really. I'm pretty sure we voted for Arts and Crafts. But then that was whittled down so much we were left with just knitting.
We voted specificially for knitting though.... We voted Arts and Crafts as the main title and then when it had the list of 5 ideas for each category and it said "If this pack wins which subtheme should the pack be based on" we voted knitting. Arts and Crafts one, and the knitting category within it won."bixters;c-17596348" wrote:
"SimmerGeorge;c-17596334" wrote:
But the question is how can you be interested in knitting? It's just one animation so you can unlock the bb and CAS from this pack and that's it. There is not much to do rather than watch the sims do one animation over and over and as the top comment put it: "This could have easily been one of the activities in a full arts and crafts pack"
EA seems to be splitting up occults, activities etc in small fractions so they can sell more content and they are not necessarily always more "fleshed-out", it just looks that way. I just cannot grasp how people aren't seeing that.
It sounds like the people that voted for knitting are interested in it.
And what do people expect from a $10 stuff pack? They only have a limited amount of resources for this pack. And in my opinion, they did try their best to fit as much as they could in this pack.
People need to be able review a product within its scope. Yes, we all know EA is terrible for dividing up content, but we should still be able to look at a product made by developers and evaluate it fairly. They did the best they could within a Stuff Pack focus. This was never going to be a game pack. It's not the fault of the pack, it's the fault of EA's budgeting.
Trust me, I've been very critical of the packs and this series, I just don't think his review was helpful for people who might have actually been interested in Knitting.
Again many people (like me) voted for art and crafts. Once EA narrowed it down so much that we went from arts and crafts to just knitting or just sculpting I was dissapointed but I still voted for the least terrible choice. If I was able to create a pack I would not really choose a pack about knitting. It's just with this survey system we don't have much say, they give us the options and we choose which one we find the best but we are never able to maybe suggest an idea.
It's like someone asking "do you want a blue or a pink T-shirt?" and you're like "I want a gray sweater" "well bad luck cause you don't get that option"
Also look at the ratio. They are spending sooooo much time and money into making 17 whole stuff packs and we haven't had a game pack since RoM and before EL the last EP was released in November of 2019. After 6 years we've had 9 EPs 8 GPs and 17(!!) SPs.
Also LGR can review the pack with whatever criteria he wants. If he thinks the whole concept of the pack is not worth it then no matter how much stuff the pack actually has, it still doesn't make it better and I agree with that. His review helped me."SimmerGeorge;c-17596334" wrote:
"bixters;c-17596316" wrote:
I disagree with his review. In my opinion, this pack has done a lot better than other Stuff Packs. This pack had a lot more content than I expected for $10.
I think LGR is a good guy, but I don't think his reviews have been useful as of late. There's only so many ways he can say "there's too much DLC," and he doesn't seem to actually get around to reviewing the actual product in a balanced manner. He should have framed his review around, "if you like knitting, then this is why you will/ won't enjoy this pack." Instead, I feel like his review is basically "I'm not interested in this pack, you probably aren't either, and there's too much DLC." Not exactly helpful to people that were interested in Knitting, since the community basically voted for it anyway.
And for everyone complaining about this series overstaying it's welcome, the Sims 5 won't be any better. Unless you enjoy subscription based games and microtransactions.
I also didn't care for his review of Eco Lifestyle. I myself am critical of that pack, but I didn't agree with his reasons for disliking the pack.
And before anyone attacks me, I am allowed to critique his reviews. I'm quite vocal about my criticism of the series, so it has nothing to do with being critical.
But the question is how can you be interested in knitting? It's just one animation so you can unlock the bb and CAS from this pack and that's it.
Stuff packs in the Sims 5 will probably be like "The Sims 5 poopy toilet stuff" now with more in-depth gameplay than ever!
And people will be like "yeah we had pooping in the previous games but never as fleshed out so I will gladly pay 10 bucks".
Storytelling. It just adds to a sims personlity, like every skill does... I will have a kid who lives by their grandparents because her actual parents died. Knitting will have a big influence in their life, since you can teach others how to knit and kids are allowed to knit...
And when you look it at that point of view, giving your sim a backstory, all of this DLC can be great tools to support that.
I mean no one wanted active classes, even though the go to school mod was really popular. they prefer to just watch a rabbithole... how is that interesting? And what is so interesting about sims doing homework and research. What is so interesting about sims watching a movie or craft furniture over and over and over... what is so interesting about the flower arrangment table...
Everyone has differente feelings towards these things. While for some it is boring for the other it can be relaxing or relatable and therefore fun."PreCiious;c-17596362" wrote:
"SimmerGeorge;c-17596334" wrote:
"bixters;c-17596316" wrote:
I disagree with his review. In my opinion, this pack has done a lot better than other Stuff Packs. This pack had a lot more content than I expected for $10.
I think LGR is a good guy, but I don't think his reviews have been useful as of late. There's only so many ways he can say "there's too much DLC," and he doesn't seem to actually get around to reviewing the actual product in a balanced manner. He should have framed his review around, "if you like knitting, then this is why you will/ won't enjoy this pack." Instead, I feel like his review is basically "I'm not interested in this pack, you probably aren't either, and there's too much DLC." Not exactly helpful to people that were interested in Knitting, since the community basically voted for it anyway.
And for everyone complaining about this series overstaying it's welcome, the Sims 5 won't be any better. Unless you enjoy subscription based games and microtransactions.
I also didn't care for his review of Eco Lifestyle. I myself am critical of that pack, but I didn't agree with his reasons for disliking the pack.
And before anyone attacks me, I am allowed to critique his reviews. I'm quite vocal about my criticism of the series, so it has nothing to do with being critical.
But the question is how can you be interested in knitting? It's just one animation so you can unlock the bb and CAS from this pack and that's it.
Stuff packs in the Sims 5 will probably be like "The Sims 5 poopy toilet stuff" now with more in-depth gameplay than ever!
And people will be like "yeah we had pooping in the previous games but never as fleshed out so I will gladly pay 10 bucks".
Storytelling. It just adds to a sims personlity, like every skill does... I will have a kid who lives by their grandparents because her actual parents died. Knitting will have a big influence in their life, since you can teach others how to knit and kids are allowed to knit...
And when you look it at that point of view, giving your sim a backstory, all of this DLC can be great tools to support that.
I mean no one wanted active classes, even though the go to school mod was really popular. they prefer to just watch a rabbithole... how is that interesting? And what is so interesting about sims doing homework and research. What is so interesting about sims watching a movie or craft furniture over and over and over... what is so interesting about the flower arrangment table...
Everyone has differente feelings towards these things. While for some it is boring for the other it can be relaxing or relatable and therefore fun.
@PreCiious Exactly and this is why there are no flower arranging packs, or homework packs or you name it. I get that it's interesting if it's a part of something bigger but 10$ for a knitting interaction? lol
Again try to see the whole picture. We are 17 SPs in right now. Take a moment, look at what business practices you decide to support with your money and if that's fine to you then go for it, but don't call LGR not useful because he cannot see the good in those same business practices. I cannot either- SimburianNew TravelerI think he only gave it a cursory glance, not saying anything about the desks joining etc. He's probably only done it because someone asked him to. He doesn't need Sims anymore I think.
That said, I'm giving my Elderly Sims a holiday in Sulani. They've got the tents and camping equipment for a weekend stay and enjoying the occasional visit to the Spa there, knitting in their rocking chairs on the decking outside, watching the kids on the swings, making sandcastles or swimming. Cheers! <3 - Joanne_SnowRising Traveler
"KaeChan2089;c-17596354" wrote:
"SimAlexandria;c-17596350" wrote:
"Missmagoo2;c-17596314" wrote:
"crocobaura;c-17594964" wrote:
Didn't we vote on the content and already knew what was going to be in the pack?
Kinda but not really. I'm pretty sure we voted for Arts and Crafts. But then that was whittled down so much we were left with just knitting.
We voted specificially for knitting though.... We voted Arts and Crafts as the main title and then when it had the list of 5 ideas for each category and it said "If this pack wins which subtheme should the pack be based on" we voted knitting. Arts and Crafts one, and the knitting category within it won.
While that's true, but I believe people voted for Arts and Crafts thinking we'd get something like hobbies...but...failed to realize it was just one theme (like myself)
But we had the laundry vote before. No offence but I think they were pretty clear from the start that only one theme would win, exactly like last time when laundry (for some reason) won the eco vote ??♀️ I think both laundry and knitting are very good SPs though, but yes they are SPs, we always knew they would be. None of this vote or outcome should be surprising to anyone who participated the last time.
But yes, knitting could have been a part of EL and it kinda looks like it was supposed to be. That is a more valid criticism than that we didn't get what we voted for. Because, well, we did. "PreCiious;c-17596362" wrote:
"SimmerGeorge;c-17596334" wrote:
"bixters;c-17596316" wrote:
I disagree with his review. In my opinion, this pack has done a lot better than other Stuff Packs. This pack had a lot more content than I expected for $10.
I think LGR is a good guy, but I don't think his reviews have been useful as of late. There's only so many ways he can say "there's too much DLC," and he doesn't seem to actually get around to reviewing the actual product in a balanced manner. He should have framed his review around, "if you like knitting, then this is why you will/ won't enjoy this pack." Instead, I feel like his review is basically "I'm not interested in this pack, you probably aren't either, and there's too much DLC." Not exactly helpful to people that were interested in Knitting, since the community basically voted for it anyway.
And for everyone complaining about this series overstaying it's welcome, the Sims 5 won't be any better. Unless you enjoy subscription based games and microtransactions.
I also didn't care for his review of Eco Lifestyle. I myself am critical of that pack, but I didn't agree with his reasons for disliking the pack.
And before anyone attacks me, I am allowed to critique his reviews. I'm quite vocal about my criticism of the series, so it has nothing to do with being critical.
But the question is how can you be interested in knitting? It's just one animation so you can unlock the bb and CAS from this pack and that's it.
Stuff packs in the Sims 5 will probably be like "The Sims 5 poopy toilet stuff" now with more in-depth gameplay than ever!
And people will be like "yeah we had pooping in the previous games but never as fleshed out so I will gladly pay 10 bucks".
Storytelling. It just adds to a sims personlity, like every skill does... I will have a kid who lives by their grandparents because her actual parents died. Knitting will have a big influence in their life, since you can teach others how to knit and kids are allowed to knit...
And when you look it at that point of view, giving your sim a backstory, all of this DLC can be great tools to support that.
I mean no one wanted active classes, even though the go to school mod was really popular. they prefer to just watch a rabbithole... how is that interesting? And what is so interesting about sims doing homework and research. What is so interesting about sims watching a movie or craft furniture over and over and over... what is so interesting about the flower arrangment table...
Everyone has differente feelings towards these things. While for some it is boring for the other it can be relaxing or relatable and therefore fun.
This. No matter whether they're part of a larger pack or not most interactions eventually just become boring and something to grind through. Cooking, reading skill books, etc. Even my spellcaster animations no longer elicit that excitement and wonder as the first time.
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