My thoughts on Eco Living...

I'm really enjoying the pack now. I had some frustrating days because I seemed to get the NAP glitch worse than many people did. My Sims couldn't do anything really until I installed the right mod. But now I am back to loving the pack! I love the world, the premades, the Sim traits, the lot traits, the CAS items, and the build/buy items. I haven't done much yet with the community lots or with trying to turn the worlds green. Using the fabricators and other machines is a lot of fun. I'm really glad I bought the pack!

In case you haven't seen these mods yet, I am using:
Simvasion's updated (second version) Civic Policy Tweaks mod. This solved all the wacko NAP issues for me!
I installed Scarlet's No Eco Footprint Decay mod. I don't know if it's working yet, because I haven't really tried changing my worlds' eco footprints yet.
A mod called MSNoRoughhousing. This stops random fighting. It works perfectly! I haven't yet tested to see whether I still need this mod now that I have the Civic Policy Tweaks 2.0 mod.

My general thought is that too much of the content is too heavily focused on Eco :) I mean, the features would been better if they worked more with other gaming styles. Like, I play rotationally and can't focus on each house for long enough to impact their Eco print. I like the NAP system, but the NAPs themselves are too limited to Eco thinking - would be more fun if some were more general, like making hoods more diverse to normal people - including taxes, scholarships, health effects, pensions, pet welfare, fame effect, etc, non of these relating to Eco but general political programs. I'd like the system to make it easier for a certain family to decide where to settle, but the system is designed to toss around NAPs every week, which is not what I want. So maybe the system could include some long term NAPs and just 1 being changed. The way it is designed might course simmers to play it while the pack is fresh, but then opt out of it.

I like most BB and new activities like fabricating, candles and juice etc. Also happy with my game focusing more on community aspects and not only single households.

I hope the Eco focus will be toned down a bit in the future. Even if the theme is fresh and important, I still want to play lots of families that are NOT concerned. EA seems to forget that we have tons of content, and that not all sims will jump onto the Eco wagon. There could be more cross pack features, especially regarding the NAPs system.

I agree with most of these, it's a bit of an "eh" pack for me. 50% I think is great and the other 50%... not so much. For a pack centered around saving the environment, the actual saving the environment aspect is terrible. It saves itself with the build-buy, CAS, dumpster diving, community lots and the port neighborhood which is really nice. Those features are what's stopping me from wanting a refund.

Also hope they update off-the-grid again aswell, it's very lacklustre still. I want to see a total of how much power/water I have, and what items use it and how much they use or how much you require to use it (ie you need 10l of water to have a shower, then you go out and gather water to get those 10l and then your sims can shower). I want that kind of build-up and working towards it rather than just getting a message saying you've reached a power/water surplus. Also if you don't pay the bills on an off the grid lot they take away your power and water... on a lot that doesn't have power and water...

"SimsLady2000;c-17563460" wrote:
I had to disable that pack. I LOVED it when it worked right. I love the building stuff and they concept is great. I really enjoyed watching the new world change as the eco footprint got more green. But all the cake-baking, push-ups, brewing, fighting, kissing strangers, having stuff stolen from my created restaurants and other venues that's have had forever and the sims constantly playing withe the clay and future cubes is just too much. Even if I set every neighborhood up without an NAP and turned off the effects in Settings, those problems still occurred. Also, I started getting an error message every time I tried to travel with my playable sims.

I finally uninstalled my game and origin completely, set up a new administrator account just for the Sims 4 and reinstalled my entire game and Origin into the new account on my PC. I used a string in advanced settings to disable the Eco Lifestyle and when I added my sims back in (one by one) and my houses and stuff (also one by one), I have been able to play daily for over a week without any issues. The only mods I use are the TMEX T.O.O.L and the Amobae Shelf, which I've been using forever. I have tried to reactivate the pack a couple of times to see if the problem is still there and all this crazy behavior begins immediately. I'm so sad. Anyone happen to have a solution for this particular issue?

Have you tried disabling NPC N.A.P voting and the Eco Footprint?