Never Satisfied.

"haneul;c-17749854" wrote:

"Renato10;c-17749691" wrote:

"haneul;c-17749043" wrote:

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17748846" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

You know many of them worked on Sims 2, right? Why on Earth would they need to do that?

"Oldeseadogge;c-17748824" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

And how to make in depth game play, the little details that add up to an immersive game, real personalities for sims, wants & fears, an honest memory system, an attraction system, worlds with many lots, worlds with functioning cars...

I hate to say this, but I think a lot of Simmers who played Sims 2 overestimate that game's current value. Sims 4 is a more successful game than Sims 2. Financially, the Sims 4 is doing well and people like it. A lot of the systems in Sims 2 (like memories) probably won't work well in Sims 4 without causing serious bloat and memories corrupted some saves in Sims 2. Regardless, because the Sims 4 is doing well, I think the developers don't see why they should make the game more like 2, especially when it comes to memories and wants/fears.

It's been 6 years! The Sims 4 has more dlcs than any other The Sims title and don't try to give me The Sims 3 Store card because evryone knows people would buy dlcs for The Sims 3 much more than store content. The base game was free for a period. Its on Origin and Steam and nowadays we don't have to go to a store to get the game. The Gamechangers, like it or not are a way of advertising the game and there are so many giveaways for this game! The console game is exactly like the pc one unlike previous titles! Not even to mention that The Sims has no competition at this moment! The Sims 4 might have numbers but when you look at all the factors they are much less impressive than the numbers of The Sims 2 or even The Sims 1!

If Sims 4 weren't doing well, the team would have moved on a few years ago. But they keep making dlc for it because it's doing well and the dlc is profitable. People like and buy it -- that's why there's a lot and why the basegame is sometimes free (to sell the dlc). I don't agree with all of their choices, but I don't think this argument of make it more like the Sims 2 is persuasive when some of the Sims team actually worked on the Sims 2 and when the Sims 4 has better figures. This is a business after all.

True! Making more than one pack for things that were sold in the past in just one expansion will always make a lot of profit. New players buy everything, heavly influenced by social media and propaganda with the majority not caring about of past games even tough The Sims 3 still exist in an expensive way (wonder why?-.-) and If you an old fan and you already own the past games, you expected more but you still arround because you're passionate about The Sims that it's still a monopoly. The Sims 4 is a downgrade with little improvements. Improvements are expected in a new sequel but it's existence is questionable. It feels like it is just a product and has no soul! Sometimes it is borderline pointless.
I wish the majority of complainers to stop buying things even when its on sale but we know things don't work that way. We will have to wait for the competition and it could be good or terrible but The Sims will have to change because this certainly will not continue forever!

"Oldeseadogge;c-17749957" wrote:
While it may be successful, popular, and profitable by appealing to those with low expectations, it's still an inferior game in terms of gameplay quality, at least for those who know what it was like before. They are different games, the products of different eras. That 4 runs on an engine not intended for the task its been given doesn't help.

I know that that's the going opinion on the forums, but I don't agree. I played Sims 2. I have the Ultimate Collection now and it's a good game, but I like Sims 4 a lot more. I'm not really a builder and I don't spend much time in CAS, and yet I still prefer Sims 4. For me, there's just not enough in Sims 2. I had Sims mastering all skills while/before they became adults. There are only a few plants for gardening and a few meals to cook, etc. There aren't many Sims and they don't age together. Time stops when off-lot, etc. etc. The clocks moved and they opened cabinets when cooking, but I rather have piano be a separate skill than have a moving clock. We should probably have both, but I think that there are tons of people like me who actually prefer Sims 4 gameplay to Sims 2. Sims 4 has improved a lot since release.

"morganlefaye;c-17749989" wrote:

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17749260" wrote:

"morganlefaye;d-984718" wrote:
Before and after the new update, the game is still lagging like I'm so tired of it. I miss the days when Sims was so inappropriate when I was ten I literally was like oh my god... the remote is vibrating. I can't stand the bugs! The game is always lagging.

Lagging? Do you have a lot of mods or CC? Did you try and clean your computer? This is not something a lot of folks want to hear, but perhaps it's time to upgrade to a newer, more capable system? Constant lagging shouldn't happen, even on slightly older machines. The Sims 4 doesn't require that much juice to run it.

I can't I don't have anything else, except for this head ache of a game.

Hmm...again, I don't mean any disrespect, but I do remember you created pretty much the exact same thread about a day or less before this one. Are you trying to get feedback and find a solution or are you more interested in generating a multitude of echo chambers?

If this game is not entertaining enough why can't you find something else to do? I do understand your frustration, but it's best to leave constructive feedback rather than telling everyone on multiple threads how headache inducing this game is.

The developers don't care about headaches. They care about constructive feedback. They do read the feedback section you know?
In the meantime, maybe find something else you enjoy doing? It doesn't necessarily have to include a computer...

I like the game, but it's quite frustrating when your time is literally stopping for about a minute. I probably had made another thread of the same thing, but I forget a lot and mostly I love the game for the details of the Sim, but it just doesn't feel as it used like Sims 2. I wish there was more to it.

The game isn't supposed to be like that though. That kind of lag sounds horrible. Have you tried to troubleshoot what's causing it?

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17748846" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

You know many of them worked on Sims 2, right? Why on Earth would they need to do that?

If they did then they should get a refresher of what sims used to be.

"haneul;c-17749043" wrote:

"PlayerSinger2010;c-17748846" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

You know many of them worked on Sims 2, right? Why on Earth would they need to do that?

"Oldeseadogge;c-17748824" wrote:

"Movotti;c-17746962" wrote:
I think the developers should have to play TS2 for a month.
So they can learn how to be irreverent, and how to incorporate it into the game.

I miss the crudeness, I miss the silliness, I miss the ridiculousness, and I miss the darker things.

And how to make in depth game play, the little details that add up to an immersive game, real personalities for sims, wants & fears, an honest memory system, an attraction system, worlds with many lots, worlds with functioning cars...

I hate to say this, but I think a lot of Simmers who played Sims 2 overestimate that game's current value. Sims 4 is a more successful game than Sims 2. Financially, the Sims 4 is doing well and people like it. A lot of the systems in Sims 2 (like memories) probably won't work well in Sims 4 without causing serious bloat and memories corrupted some saves in Sims 2. Regardless, because the Sims 4 is doing well, I think the developers don't see why they should make the game more like 2, especially when it comes to memories and wants/fears.

But you gave up so much in 2 and 3 just to play TS4 with it's infamous bugs, shoddy programming, and closed world system, and lack gameplay and creativity for so many players in so many areas that one wonders why even buy TS4 when it wouldn't even be able to handle a memory system like in TS2. Memories don't corrupt TS2, players do.

"Oldeseadogge;c-17749957" wrote:
While it may be successful, popular, and profitable by appealing to those with low expectations, it's still an inferior game in terms of gameplay quality, at least for those who know what it was like before. They are different games, the products of different eras. That 4 runs on an engine not intended for the task its been given doesn't help.

I've played and enjoyed all 4 versions so I know what it was like before. Yet, with 2 and 3 both installed I still prefer and play 4. ?‍♂️

"morganlefaye;c-17746456" wrote:

"Renato10;c-17746410" wrote:
Even when you try to be positive and hopeful there's always something off about this 4th generation of The Sims. After 6 years it just makes you tired of it!

I try so hard to be positive about the game, but it's not the same. It's like an unsatisfying piece of cake, it's what you've been craving and yet it's not good as you hoped it would be.

That is a perfect analogy! That's exactly how I feel.

"Chicklet453681;c-17752521" wrote:

"morganlefaye;c-17746456" wrote:

"Renato10;c-17746410" wrote:
Even when you try to be positive and hopeful there's always something off about this 4th generation of The Sims. After 6 years it just makes you tired of it!

I try so hard to be positive about the game, but it's not the same. It's like an unsatisfying piece of cake, it's what you've been craving and yet it's not good as you hoped it would be.

That is a perfect analogy! That's exactly how I feel.

I thought of Marie Antionette.

"haneul;c-17750025" wrote:

"Oldeseadogge;c-17749957" wrote:
While it may be successful, popular, and profitable by appealing to those with low expectations, it's still an inferior game in terms of gameplay quality, at least for those who know what it was like before. They are different games, the products of different eras. That 4 runs on an engine not intended for the task its been given doesn't help.

I know that that's the going opinion on the forums, but I don't agree. I played Sims 2. I have the Ultimate Collection now and it's a good game, but I like Sims 4 a lot more. I'm not really a builder and I don't spend much time in CAS, and yet I still prefer Sims 4. For me, there's just not enough in Sims 2. I had Sims mastering all skills while/before they became adults. There are only a few plants for gardening and a few meals to cook, etc. There aren't many Sims and they don't age together. Time stops when off-lot, etc. etc. The clocks moved and they opened cabinets when cooking, but I rather have piano be a separate skill than have a moving clock. We should probably have both, but I think that there are tons of people like me who actually prefer Sims 4 gameplay to Sims 2. Sims 4 has improved a lot since release.

In view of the advances in gaming technology between the 2 game there had better be some improvements! This is looking like a matter of playing style differences. No right or wrong, just different. But for JA and the ability to farm I'd have uninstalled TS4 ages ago, too boring for how I play. Have never been bored with TS2 all these many years. I think part of it is that TS2 has an excellent story telling system via the family albums. Being a published writer, I really like the ability to create graphic novels, weaving complex stories crossing several households. in the old days we could post them directly to the story section of the TS2 site for all to read. Another item is that every world is mine to build on as I wish, all of it, not just a rationed few lots, and populate (with no 250 sim limit) accordingly. Along with the satellite worlds - provided and addable. So we can agree to disagree, and wish each other happy simming.