I’d like to propose that the hot/cold weather attires be moved as subcategories beneath every clothing category. It can either be a tagging system (hot, cold, regular) or sub-slots (one/two of each per category).I believe it will solve many issues that surfaced after the introduction of the new system: freeze to death while doing outdoor exercise Unordinary cloth-changing in certain situation (change from formal to shorts and T-shirt on a date because the seating is outside) Everyday outfits becoming obsolete in summer and winter (potential future problem) constant cloth-changing for sims who go outside a lotIn reality, we put on our attires based on the weather of a day. We usually don’t change when walking outside and then change again when indoor. So for me, it makes more sense for us to create hot/cold weather Everyday, Formal, Sports, etc.Hopefully it’s not too late for Maxis to tweak this part.

Honestly, I don't understand what was wrong with the old way:It's cold outside, the Sims put on something warm. When they go inside, the warm clothes come off. Raining outside? Use an umbrella. Done.I haven't played Seasons. So, I'm still trying to understand how the hot/cold thing is supposed to work. Is a Sim covered for hot/cold so long as one of the items that they are wearing is rated for the weather?I mean, can a Sim put on a pair of cold weather earrings and be totally immune to the effects of the cold or what? It doesn't seem as if the hot/cold categories were thought through.

I really don't want to have to make 18 outfits for every sim. I do like their idea of adding two extra categories for it, but there are just some quirks they need to get around.

"LadyKyn;c-16575701" wrote:The categories function as they're suppose to as you said. Doesn't matter what the Sim wears in everyday they will get uncomfortable if not wearing their cooler outfit in the hot category. My sim can be wearing shorts and a tank in everyday and they will get hot. Usually when it's pretty warm or cool they'll stay in everyday for the most part.One question:1. So does everything that the Sim is wearing have to be for hot weather (cold weather) in order for the protective effect to take place?2. Can everyday clothing be manually copied over to the appropriate category by removing filters. Ex: A Sim can wear a nightgown as their everyday outfit with filters removed?It still seems like a lot of unnecessary work, either way. There are six existing categories and the new hot/cold categories seem to be working at cross purposes to them.@Simmer_chiyen, now I understand your proposed change. Other than going back to the Outerwear category that worked well in the previous games, your idea makes the most sense.

"Simmer_chiyen;d-943336" wrote:I’d like to propose that the hot/cold weather attires be moved as subcategories beneath every clothing category. It can either be a tagging system (hot, cold, regular) or sub-slots (one/two of each per category).Just a comment of support that I personally LOVE this idea.

My idea for the clothing system would be that simple: Giving the player the possibilty to tag the (up to five) outfits in the categories we have already with four tags: Warm, hot, chilly, cold.So if we'd like we could for example choose for the everyday outfits : T-Shirt (tag: warm), tanktop (tag: hot), light sweater (tag: xhilly), warm sweater (tag. cold). That's what the Sims choose appropriate to the temperatures INDOOR. Same for the other categories like party, sports etc. And in addition only ONE outdoor-category, same procedure. So the Sim could wear for example a light cardigan (warm), a jacket (chilly) and a warm coat (cold) OUTDOOR. This way our Sims would have appropriate outfits for all temperatures and times of the year in their closets. :) And if you don't like to create all these outfits: They could be given by the game randomly like it's used to be now.

New Clothing System Tweak Suggestions

12 Replies

Cynna1065
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
Honestly, I don't understand what was wrong with the old way:

It's cold outside, the Sims put on something warm. When they go inside, the warm clothes come off. Raining outside? Use an umbrella. Done.

I haven't played Seasons. So, I'm still trying to understand how the hot/cold thing is supposed to work. Is a Sim covered for hot/cold so long as one of the items that they are wearing is rated for the weather?

I mean, can a Sim put on a pair of cold weather earrings and be totally immune to the effects of the cold or what? It doesn't seem as if the hot/cold categories were thought through.
kaeyresky
8 years ago
I really don't want to have to make 18 outfits for every sim. I do like their idea of adding two extra categories for it, but there are just some quirks they need to get around.
LadyKyn
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
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"Cynna;c-16575354" wrote:
Honestly, I don't understand what was wrong with the old way:

It's cold outside, the Sims put on something warm. When they go inside, the warm clothes come off. Raining outside? Use an umbrella. Done.

I haven't played Seasons. So, I'm still trying to understand how the hot/cold thing is supposed to work. Is a Sim covered for hot/cold so long as one of the items that they are wearing is rated for the weather?

I mean, can a Sim put on a pair of cold weather earrings and be totally immune to the effects of the cold or what? It doesn't seem as if the hot/cold categories were thought through.

The categories function as they're suppose to as you said. Doesn't matter what the Sim wears in everyday they will get uncomfortable if not wearing their cooler outfit in the hot category. My sim can be wearing shorts and a tank in everyday and they will get hot. Usually when it's pretty warm or cool they'll stay in everyday for the most part.
Cynna1065
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
"LadyKyn;c-16575701" wrote:

The categories function as they're suppose to as you said. Doesn't matter what the Sim wears in everyday they will get uncomfortable if not wearing their cooler outfit in the hot category. My sim can be wearing shorts and a tank in everyday and they will get hot. Usually when it's pretty warm or cool they'll stay in everyday for the most part.

One question:

~~1. So does everything that the Sim is wearing have to be for hot weather (cold weather) in order for the protective effect to take place?~~

2. Can everyday clothing be manually copied over to the appropriate category by removing filters. Ex: A Sim can wear a nightgown as their everyday outfit with filters removed?

It still seems like a lot of unnecessary work, either way. There are six existing categories and the new hot/cold categories seem to be working at cross purposes to them.

@Simmer_chiyen, now I understand your proposed change. Other than going back to the Outerwear category that worked well in the previous games, your idea makes the most sense.
paradiseplanet27
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
"Cynna;c-16575863" wrote:
"LadyKyn;c-16575701" wrote:

The categories function as they're suppose to as you said. Doesn't matter what the Sim wears in everyday they will get uncomfortable if not wearing their cooler outfit in the hot category. My sim can be wearing shorts and a tank in everyday and they will get hot. Usually when it's pretty warm or cool they'll stay in everyday for the most part.

One question:

~~1. So does everything that the Sim is wearing have to be for hot weather (cold weather) in order for the protective effect to take place?~~

2. Can everyday clothing be manually copied over to the appropriate category by removing filters. Ex: A Sim can wear a nightgown as their everyday outfit with filters removed?

It still seems like a lot of unnecessary work, either way. There are six existing categories and the new hot/cold categories seem to be working at cross purposes to them.

@Simmer_chiyen, now I understand your proposed change. Other than going back to the Outerwear category that worked well in the previous games, your idea makes the most sense.

To answer question 2, of course you can; if you want to transfer a bikini from your everyday outfit to your hot weather outfit, go on ahead. You'll have to probably remove filters to manually transfer it all but it'll work. Heck you can even wear a bikini for your cold weather outfit and you'll still be warm in winter.
samsam713
New Ace
8 years ago
"Cynna;c-16575863" wrote:
"LadyKyn;c-16575701" wrote:

@Simmer_chiyen, now I understand your proposed change. Other than going back to the Outerwear category that worked well in the previous games, your idea makes the most sense.

Thank you. I think it’s the way that create less fuss but at the same time retain the “weirder story” part. Players can still tag unusual attires as hot or cold outfit, creating the “bikini in winter” story.

As to your second question, that’s the work-around I’ve been using now. But that doesn’t solve point one, two, and four.

Edit: remove accidental quote.
bizuktag
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
I don't think there are enough assets in the game to set up every sim with subcategories of each clothing, and I'm not keen on having to pick that many extra outfits for each of my sims.

I think a better solution would be to alter the activities based on the weather. If a Sim is going jogging in adverse weather, it takes them slightly longer to reach the freezing/burning point. When they reach the intermediary buff stage, they're forced to stop.
anthonydyer
Seasoned Ace
8 years ago
"Cynna;c-16575354" wrote:
Honestly, I don't understand what was wrong with the old way:

It's cold outside, the Sims put on something warm. When they go inside, the warm clothes come off. Raining outside? Use an umbrella. Done.

I haven't played Seasons. So, I'm still trying to understand how the hot/cold thing is supposed to work. Is a Sim covered for hot/cold so long as one of the items that they are wearing is rated for the weather?

I mean, can a Sim put on a pair of cold weather earrings and be totally immune to the effects of the cold or what? It doesn't seem as if the hot/cold categories were thought through.

I agree. That is the way it worked on sims 2. You wore your regular clothing everyday and if you go outside and it happens to be winter, they will switch to winter clothing.
storminmay
8 years ago
"Simmer_chiyen;d-943336" wrote:
I’d like to propose that the hot/cold weather attires be moved as subcategories beneath every clothing category. It can either be a tagging system (hot, cold, regular) or sub-slots (one/two of each per category).

Just a comment of support that I personally LOVE this idea.
Ennasus60
New Traveler
8 years ago
My idea for the clothing system would be that simple: Giving the player the possibilty to tag the (up to five) outfits in the categories we have already with four tags: Warm, hot, chilly, cold.

So if we'd like we could for example choose for the everyday outfits : T-Shirt (tag: warm), tanktop (tag: hot), light sweater (tag: xhilly), warm sweater (tag. cold). That's what the Sims choose appropriate to the temperatures INDOOR.

Same for the other categories like party, sports etc. And in addition only ONE outdoor-category, same procedure. So the Sim could wear for example a light cardigan (warm), a jacket (chilly) and a warm coat (cold) OUTDOOR. This way our Sims would have appropriate outfits for all temperatures and times of the year in their closets. :)

And if you don't like to create all these outfits: They could be given by the game randomly like it's used to be now.