Next Expansion Speculation?

"LeGardePourpre;c-18024766" wrote:
Actually TS4 have :

Ghost

Alien and Half Alien

Vampire

Mermaid

Spellcaster

Servo

• Temporary state :
  

Plantsim

Skeleton

PØŞŞ€ŞŞ€Đ (Infected)


I don't count Night Wraith because it's a NPC.

Also, ghost versions of aliens, alien hybrids, vampires, mersims, spellcasters, plantsims and maybe infected too?

You can also have infected vampires by drinking from an infected sim.

I'm not huge into occults, but it's ridiculous we don't have werewolves yet. Vampires came nearly 5 years ago. The game is over 7 years old......werewolves are probably the second most recognizable occult there is....yet...here we are.

What do werewolves actually do? I haven't played The Sims 3 (which is where I think they're known from). My main understanding of Werewolf lore is that they're normal most of the time, but once a month they lose all control and kill people, which doesn't sound as rich and playable as vampires (which, I know from S4, have their own challenges, culture and aspirations).

Is werewolves' werewolfdom only evident on certain days, and does the player have much control over them when they turn? (Is it more a Jeckyl and Hyde thing of 'Sim who is mean and mischievous some nights?)

I'm hoping for a Romantic EP first so we can get Hotels with actual Honeymoons that work like we had in TS2 and TS3 with Island Paradise.

"Benjamilian;c-18025990" wrote:
What do werewolves actually do? I haven't played The Sims 3 (which is where I think they're known from). My main understanding of Werewolf lore is that they're normal most of the time, but once a month they lose all control and kill people, which doesn't sound as rich and playable as vampires (which, I know from S4, have their own challenges, culture and aspirations).

Is werewolves' werewolfdom only evident on certain days, and does the player have much control over them when they turn? (Is it more a Jeckyl and Hyde thing of 'Sim who is mean and mischievous some nights?)

I didn't play werewolves in TS3 either (because I didn't play TS3) However, I have played other games and watched movies and shows where Werewolves weren't limited to the full moon, and often had a degree of control over their transformation.

Werewolves are predators, just like vampires, and often are connected to them (though the Rivalry didn't hit pop Culture status until the mid 90's) They're often depicted as very family oriented, though it may be a family of choice rather than a family by blood.

In the games I've played (TTRPG's), Werewolves can control their transformation, but have more trouble with keeping control on the nights of the full moon.

"Gordy;c-18024849" wrote:

"marcel21;c-18024760" wrote:

I think they have treated Occult players pretty well so far

Not really. We went from getting an occult in almost every pack during TS2 and TS3, to maybe getting one occult every two years. 2019 was an exception, and we didn't get one for 2021. And aside from vampires, there are a lot of flaws with the occults we have.

Most spellcaster spells are just reskinned cheats, the familiars are worthless in practice, potions are horribly imbalanced and largely worthless, and the Magic Realm is just one lot with very little exploration. They can't use magic outside of the Magic Realm unless you have a club for them, and they're not properly tuned so they'll only just set things on fire. We don't have any Lot Traits for them like we do vampires. The BB/CAS for the pack was dedicated to punk clothing and Art Nouveau B/B, with no witch hats or robes.

We can't have ghost babies like in Sims 3, and they can't be made in CAS like they could in Supernatural. They're also horribly-tuned. They at least get unique powers and looks, but the flaws make them hard to work with and not particularly fun to play.

Aliens were much more complex in 3, and had some cool powers 4's aliens lack. We can make them in CAS and disguise them now, but we also lack the spaceship ride because we have no cars, and the alien world we can visit is one lot of barren space. It's a mixed bag as to which one is better. Also, we have no alien Lot Traits.

Mermaids are better in Sims 4, but the lack of in-depth diving seriously hampers what they can do. They can do more on land than they can at sea. The devs also didn't give them a unique bassinet or any Lot Traits.

PlantSims went from an in-depth system with unique powers and gimmicks to a temporary Life State that lacks much of their previous functionality.

Past games also had more options for hybrids. I get that there's a functionality issue here, but it's negligible.

So not only have we gotten far less occults despite the game having much more time, most of them have glaring flaws & missing features, or are arguably worse than what we had before.

"LeGardePourpre;c-18024766" wrote:
Actually TS4 have :

Ghost

Alien and Half Alien

Vampire

Mermaid

Spellcaster

Servo

• Temporary state :
  

Plantsim

Skeleton

PØŞŞ€ŞŞ€Đ (Infected)


I don't count Night Wraith because it's a NPC.

Possessed isn't a life state. It's a moodlet that makes your sim act weird for a little bit. And I don't think we should count temporary states.

I agree, but it’s not just occults that are lacking. Look at babies, still tied to one object. Children still can’t play together without equipment/toys, teenagers have few differences from adults apart from school, scouts and drama club, all which are rabbit holes. The depth of the sims overall is just not the same as in other sims games.

I want to see updated babies, cars, updated babies, hotels and casino’s, updated babies, more for children, toddlers, teenagers, and elders, updated babies and romance.

Updated babies could be followed by a generations pack that focuses on things other than young adult. They could also have a game pack focusing on babies and toddlers. A gamepack focusing on children and teenagers would be nice too, elders should at least have a stuff pack or two focused on them.

A toy invention machine would be a great addition.

Trikes, ride on toys, push toys and more activities like building toys ( building donuts, large to small, placing shapes in a container, etc. more thinking toys ) would be great for toddlers. Rolling a ball back and forth between toddler and other sims ( child through elder ) should be a thing (along with the ball it’self being able to be placed like the soccer ball ).

Children should have bikes, razors, and skateboards and be able to ride them around lots and neighborhoods. They should be able to play games like hopscotch, marbles, jacks, four square, and army men with others ( with the physical toy placed on ground, table, shelves, etc. like the soccer ball ). They should also be able to play all games, someone mentioned they could not play ping pong….. why not??? What other games can they not play? Let children have stayvivers, pillow fights etc? Also children should be able to play among themselves without toys, tag, cops and robbers, London bridge, red light green light etc.

Teens -Elder need to be able to play the void critter game ( refresh please ). Teens and children need more video game machines for an arcade. Teens need more romance options, a high school and after school activities which are not rabbit holes. How about cheerleading and football? Teens should be able to skateboard too. How about adding malls ( building our own ), with places for teens to hang out, sims being able to do multiple things, retail, eating out, video parlor, etc.

Elders too need some more love, give them walkers, canes, shuffleboard, retirement centers, arts and crafts, bingo etc. Give them special interactions with grand chikdren.

And update our babies, give us a changing table that works, more clothing ( other than knitted things), sell us packs with a stroller, backpack/snuggly and baby carrier/chair to take them around the neighborhood, and off lot and on vacations. Give them a baby swing, an activity blanket, a regular blanket to place them on the floor, be able to place them on a chair or sofa, give them a crib, make it where you can rock them in the rocking chair or nurse them/bottle feed them in it, or on any sofa or chair.

Also if you update the void critter pack, please give us void critter stuffed animals to play with and hold ( at least toddlers through teen ), and also to place on tables, dressers, counters etc.

And how about a volleyball game for 2-8 players….. children through elder! I fondly remember the one in Sims 2 for my big families.

As for cars give us those and other types of trasportstion in the basegame, update EP’s with transportation…. Buses, taxi’s ( most EP’s )metro systems ( city living ), trains (eco living ) etc. sells us car kits, stuff packs GP’s with various types of cars, motorcycles, vans, trucks, SUV’s, a car wash, fast food store, gas station etc.

I would love to see hotels ( we can make ) where rooms can be rented rather than the whole lot, also give us things to make a casino/motel, slot machines, roulette, cra’p tables, Keno, betting on horses etc……. Speaking of horses….. we are missing those too, and if/when you bring them out, how about ALL sims except babies being able to ride them ( how cute a pony ride for toddlers and children be ).

And what the heck ever happened to the pool table?

At this point can we just get a swatch pack? Lmao. I'm so tired of trying to find a bed or piece of furniture to match a certain aesthetic and everything is some crazy pattern with 10 different colors on it and the legs are a shade of brown you can't change. It makes my OCD crazy.

"temporalgod;c-18026285" wrote:
I think an expansion pack set around the Fae folk (Fairies and Elves) with a world based on somewhere between Scotland and Ireland, plant and animal themed cas items.

Yes. I hope for that as well.
Ideal situation would be: Werewolves game pack, and Expansion pack related to Fae Folk/Storybook themes set in an ancient forest, etc.

"LeGardePourpre;c-18024766" wrote:
Actually TS4 have :

Ghost

Alien and Half Alien

Vampire

Mermaid

Spellcaster

Servo

• Temporary state :
  

Plantsim

Skeleton

PØŞŞ€ŞŞ€Đ (Infected)


I don't count Night Wraith because it's a NPC.

I mean the ones with there own packs. Yeah forget about the lame pretty boring temp ones and the servos, etc.

Yeah they have done loads for this theme.
Like they have done loads of stalls instead of proper lots.

Yet we get window shopping instead :#


Come on EA after 20 years we get stalls in every pack instead of lots.