Pre-mades makeover

My vote was actually what my daughter said. I've already got Sims from Sims 2, Urbz, and Bustin' Out in my game. Some from the gallery, some I've made. And I'm in the process of getting/making more. I tend to like what others and myself do with them better than Maxis. I don't have any Maxis made Sims in my game.

But my daughter said they'd love it if all the families got makeovers because they do use them.

I'm honestly neutral on this question. I think that they can make the pre-mades however they want and players can play the game how they want. I have some pre-mades but mostly play with my own sims. I get though that some players really rely on the pre-mades and I think that's a valid type of play. Some people play with them a lot, some don't play with them and some like me, play with them sometimes. I sometimes like to check in on them and to see what I do with them.

I don't think we need to obsess over general lore beyond the really vintage pre-mades because I think that players make the lore when they play and that iconic characters belong to every player. For example, I think Bella can be from any background.

@ChampandGirlie Yeah, i totally understand and agree that the players should do what they feel better for their gameplay, I just think that EA should get the responsibility to show their characaters as they originally were instead of a whitewashed/lighskinned version of them (like Bella, Cassandra, Dina, Nina, Liberty, Yuki and Dirk), given that the whitewashing was the reason that began this "goal".

Having people on the team to spend a whole year only changing the pre-mades appearence (not adding a trace of lore with likes, dislikes or sentiments) makes me think if we really need this with new characters, that were created to look as they are.

So, in general, I'd be satisfied only having a makeover of the base game,to free them from those dated 2014 looks, and whitewashed dlc's pre-mades.

None.

I have already all my sims made over by myself

and I don't like it when they necro lore in kids and different faces and whatnot

since I'm here trying to play these sims and it would be awfully weird if their face changes in the middle of story

or that they suddenly have kids with sims they're not married with anymore

also I don't like how they ignore continuity and only focus on sims ethnicities and whatnot with these makeovers of theirs

like sorry but mortimer never had that nose not in ts1 or 2 or any of the spinoffs regardless of his supposed ethnicity
thats just not Mortimer face feature
even if it is nice face feature

same about his cheeks he always had puffy cheeks not whatever buccal fat removal they gave him now

ofcourse I can just continue playing my sims but just saying ethnicity does not sim make

"Thornwillow;c-18348449" wrote:
@ChampandGirlie Yeah, i totally understand and agree that the players should do what they feel better for their gameplay, I just think that EA should get the responsibility to show their characaters as they originally were instead of a whitewashed/lighskinned version of them (like Bella, Cassandra, Dina, Nina, Liberty, Yuki and Dirk), given that the whitewashing was the reason that began this "goal".

Having people on the team to spend a whole year only changing the pre-mades appearence (not adding a trace of lore with likes, dislikes or sentiments) makes me think if we really need this with new characters, that were created to look as they are.

So, in general, I'd be satisfied only having a makeover of the base game,to free them from those dated 2014 looks, and whitewashed dlc's pre-mades.

Oh sure, I'm definitely not going to debate you on that. For one, I agree that stuff from 2014, etc, can definitely be updated. Some of that is old at this point even though I still enjoy the game. About the whitewashing, I completely take your point as well. It's true that the updating of skin tones opened up more inclusivity and the ability to portray the characters differently. I just think that if it comes to players debating the ethnicity of certain characters, I'm staying out of that debate except to say that I think characters like Bella can be whoever we want them to be and from whatever background we want. (I haven't actually played with Bella since TS3 but that's not the point here, lol.)

When it comes to how long it has taken for updates on this stuff, I have no idea how they come up with that timeline but I figure that whoever is updating it is probably also working on other things. However, about what you are saying about updating new pre-mades, I see your point.

On my own end, I read through the lore and pre-mades whenever I'm exploring a new pack but I basically tend to do my own thing like all of the time which sometimes involves going back to pre-mades and pulling them into my game. Sometimes I end up wanting their houses or lots for any of my 100+ households but that's my situation. Lol. I am glad that the game is more inclusive now than it was and that more people see pre-mades that they resonate with. I just like making stuff up myself. Most of the time when I have played with pre-mades, I take them off into some random direction.

There are so many other things they could spend their time on.

There is no need to give them makeovers, a lot of them have been around for 10 years and they are good showcases of what kind of sims you could make with the sims4 back in 2014.

No makeovers! Nope, BIG FAT NO

I really thought I could care less, but after seeing the ones done, looks like I do.

I replace all new ones with old versions and do makeovers myself.

None, I replace the new versions with the old ones as soon as I start a new save.

None, please. I agree that it's a waste of resources. Ten years later? We can all remake them ourselves if we want, many of us have, many people are already long used to the old models and changing them isn't going to make players play with them. There's just no point.

Now, if devs really wanted to fix something to pay homage to previous games, I would suggest some of the gameplay. Proper lifetime Aspirations, Sim choices and consequences that matter, more balanced and interesting Traits, and detailed, unbiased simulation that's not skewed in favor of "optimism" so that players can play out real stories full of challenges and obstacles that are relatable to life. :)