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I always make Cassandra marry Yuki Behr (spelling?) after they age to young adult. Bob Pancakes though, I've never played as gay or bi. I usually have him leave Eliza because I really can't stand her. Then I have him work on an aspiration until he can afford the potion that changes his personality and take away gloomy and give him cheerful. In my head cannon, he was gloomy because he was so unhappy with his mean and controlling wife and when he left her, his outlook changed. In my current game he's an unmarried top level chef with two adopted daughters.Luna Vilareal always dates around in my game until settling with Summer Holiday and having children (either by adoption or by me changing gender options to make it possible) I rarely pay any attention to Sofia Bjergensen. Don't know why... I don't dislike her, I just never play her.

@gothiclandgrabbs Cassandra Goth is probably straight. She is engaged to Don in Sims 2, and will probably get a relationship with Darren Dreamer at some point, so I always picture her as straight in Sims 4.But, I have seen some theories that Bob Pancake's is actually transgender, as he's shirt has a hidden transgender flag. I created this headcanon that he didn't figure this out yet, he always felt different and tries to fit in the "norms of society". Then, he married Eliza not because he loves her, but to try to fit in the stereotypical american family, and she married him for the money. Thats why she is always depressed on official pictures/renders/etc... I think he's still trying to figure why he feels sad and different.

My other theory is about the Landgraabs from Sunset Valley to Oasis Springs. If you forget that Sims 4 is in an alternate timeline, of course.Johnny Zest was actually the Malcom Landgraab kid from Sunset Valley, but when he was growing up his mother realized that he was too good to be the next leader on the Landgraab business, so she got pregnant with her second child. Then when Johnny told them he wanted to be a comedian she was so disappointed with him, she thought she could at least be something on the family business, that she disowned him. His father is kinda dork and easily manipulable, but he made secretly clear to his son that he was proud of him following his dreams, because he himself never actually worked with anything he really liked just to help his wife. Then, in homage to his father, Johnny adopted his father's single surname which is "Zest".But thats just some random stuff I come up while playing with them hahaha I'm a writer in real life, so that might explain why I'm always creating plots to explain the little clues/easter eggs/timeline storylines.

Oh lordie here we go. Wall of text ahead!Premades I actually play are the Vatores and Johnny Zest; more details on Johnny at the end of this post. For the Vatores, they grew up in Windenburg and really are young adults (around 21). Caleb was turned by Miss Hell against his will when he was nineteen, being taken in (unhappily) by her, the other Rebellious Vampires household, and Vlad, who forced him to hunt and act like how they viewed a 'proper' vampire should be. When Lilith managed to find him, she was appalled at what he had been through, and demanded that Vlad turn her (partially so she could protect herself and Caleb, and partially so she could fight Miss Hell). Caleb has PTSD and depressive episodes (Eternal Sadness, natch) from the way he was turned and was in a pretty bad way before he learned about plasma fruits and plasma packs, and that he wouldn't have to hunt people to survive. Lilith is currently planning to get strong enough to take down Vlad, and start a new, cooperative vampiric age. (Also, Caleb is a bi trans guy and Lilith is aromantic pansexual.)For the rest, going by worlds!Willow Creek: Honestly, no one really knows what's going on with the Goths. More specifically, no one really knows what's going on with Bella. Mortimer is just from your standard Old Magical Family with spellcasters and probably a fair few other occults scattered through the family tree. Bella seems to be from an ordinary family, but anyone who tries to look into her background finds contradictions, misinformation, and just plain odd things. She seems to have at least four different dates of birth, is from multiple different towns (including another planet), no one is actually sure if she's disappeared multiple times complete with amnesia or if she's just a beautiful wife to Mortimer and mother to Cassandra and Alexander... (Basically, she is every Bella Goth in every timeline, simultaneously. Don't look too in-depth, you'll break reality.) Alexander seems normal enough, but Cassandra seems to have inherited her timeline-twisting ability, too! More mundanely: Summer Holiday and Liberty Lee are eventually going to realise they're competing for each other's attention, not Travis's, will start dating, and everyone will be much happier (Travis included, who now has more time for video games). And the Pancakes' have a miserable marriage, Bob is (as Karon suggested above) deeply closeted and Eliza feels resentful about the lack of openness. They'll actually do a lot better once Bob does come out.Oasis Springs: Katrina Caliente doesn't exist. Dina and Nina are twins and live with their boyfriend Don Lothario, who's also... dating basically everyone who gives him a second glance. Dina and Nina are sort of torn between getting Don to reign it in by marrying one of them, or just ditching him and moving to San Myshuno. The Roomies are basically a love square - J is crushing on Zoe, Zoe is crushing on Gavin, Gavin is crushing on Mitchell, and Mitchell isn't actually interested in anyone. (He and Johnny were best friends growing up, though, and maybe there's a bit of feelings there...?)Windenburg: Ulrike Faust and Maaike Haas are both lesbians, married, and Ulrike is a trans woman, the Partihaus are all dating each other (I aged Marcus back down to YA), Luna Villareal and Sofia Bjergsen have mutual crushes on each other but haven't really fessed up, Hugo Villareal is nonbinary and likes boys but still hasn't quite worked out what their own gender is called so they don't know if they can call themself gay or what, Candy Behr is pan and Yuki is an ace lesbian, and the Fyres and the Bjergsens have open marriages and Bjorn is involved with both Moira and Dominic (everyone is aware and happy with the arrangements, there's no cheating). Non-related to orientation and gender, Yuki has ADHD (mixed type), and Gunther, Maaike, and Hugo are all autistic. Basically, the Avant Gardes are a neurodiversity club. Morgan Fyres has depression and very low self-worth, and tries to fit in to the Renegades' ideals but doesn't really have her heart in it. Also, everyone's vaguely aware of Jacques and Max Villareal being Terrible, and the Bjergsens have told Luna and Hugo that if they need to bail, they can take them in. (Clara is pretty protective of Hugo in particular, given that they're the youngest member of her club, and Luna is over all the time hanging out with Sofia anyway).San Myshuno: Raj Rasoya is aro-ace and has no idea how to tell Geeta someone please save him. Salim Benali and Deigo Lobo once dated and things are... awkward between them (Diego is gay and is now dating Izzy Fabulous, Salim is pan and isn't quite sure if he wants a significant other or a personal trainer to kick him into gear). Miko Ojo is pan and while she definitely finds Akira attractive, she's not sure how compatible they are, so she pretty intentionally keeps things at a 'romantic tension' level. Darling Walsh is nonbinary and is pretty sure they're aro-ace, or at least aspec. They also have ADHD (hyperactive type).Brindleton Bay: Catarina Lynx is a furry. Sorry I call it as I see it.Del Sol Valley: Izzy Fabulous describes both his gender and orientation as 'queer' and, as mentioned above, is dating Diego Lobo. It actually works out pretty well - Diego can critique someone's fashion sense then say, hey, I know a good stylist... Kayla Flemming is a lesbian. Once she meets Lilith, they're going to get on extremely well. Judith Ward hasn't visibly aged for about twenty years. This is because she's a vampire (turned by Vlad). And Thorne Bailey and Octavia Moon have no actual relationship to speak of and both see other people as they will. They stay together for two reasons - the first being their son, and the second being that Octavia is more successful as a songwriter with a charismatic singer like Thorne, and Thorne is more successful as a singer with a talented songwriter like Octavia. It's mutually convenient for them both.Strangerville: Erwin Pries and George Cahill both have schizophrenia; they both control it well with medication, and George finds his symptoms are much easier to deal with when he's away from others (hence the cool plane digs). George keeps an eye on Erwin as much as he can, and Erwin often crashes at George's place. Alice Martin actually is close friends with Erwin and Jess Sigworth despite their in-game relationships. She has a bit of a crush on Erwin but respects his unwillingness to be in a relationship. Leslie just wants Alice to realise that she likes her too, and Mark is staying out of it. He's currently trying to decide between staying in Strangerville and trying his luck in San Myshuno.Sulani: Oliana Ngata and Leila Illes are both bi; Oliana had Tane with her ex-boyfriend (they were never married, but are still friends). There's a fair bit of romantic attraction between Leila, Makoa Kealoha, and Nalani Mahi'ai (who's pan); Oliana and Lilliana both know and would be okay with them exploring it aka I'm still bitter I didn't get my trailer OT3. Duane Talla is Lilliana's cousin, hence why he's living with them. Lia Hauata is a lesbian and trans woman; Keala Hoapili is as well, and took young Lia in when she didn't have anywhere else to go. Keala's kids and grandkids are pretty frequent visitors and consider Lia to be a part of the family, too."Karon;c-17236036" wrote:My other theory is about the Landgraabs from Sunset Valley to Oasis Springs. If you forget that Sims 4 is in an alternate timeline, of course.My headcanon's almost the same. Johnny was originally named Malcolm, but slowly started rebelling as Nancy's work went from business to outright crime. The current Malcolm was already around (I named him 'Sebastian', it sounded suitably pretentious), so when Johnny ran away / was disowned nigh simultaneously and changed his name when he was around sixteen, Nancy renamed Sebastian to Malcolm and pretty much retconned Johnny/the original Malcolm out of existence. "Why yes, this is our firstborn and heir Malcolm. What do you mean, he's always been eight years old. Of course we don't have two sons." By the time we get to the in-game timeline or so, Malcolm is now 15-16 and Johnny is around 23-24. He's not in contact with Nancy at all, Malcolm likes leaving rude comments on his Simstagram, and he and Geoffrey exchange polite but distant texts on birthdays and festivals.(Also, he's gay. The disowning was mostly about him refusing to fall into line and be The Good Landgraab Heir regarding family business and inheritence, but the fact that he had no interest in producing more Landgraab heirs has a small part to play in it too. After initially leaving for Del Sol Valley and having a really rough time, including getting in with a bad crowd and doing some stuff he now regrets, he's since moved to San Myshuno in my save, is making a name for himself in the comedy scene, and has a boyfriend (Caleb), and is living his best life away from the Landgraabs!)

"Sindocat;c-17236006" wrote:"gothiclandgrabbs;d-965878" wrote:cassanra goth lesbainCome to think, this YA restyle of Cassandra does kind of look like she may be preparing to queue an "Enthuse About Radcliffe Hall" interaction, with her brother-in-law, here... ;)https://i.imgur.com/YznHFNx.pngI like Cassandra and the family always enjoy her visits. Funnily enough, I gave Cassandra a very similar makeover when I aged her up in game. Including same hair. I love the goths. To me, Mortimer has always been old money and maybe English/German ancestry. He is very studious and has a strong work ethic. Bella is significantly younger. In my game I have a bit of a headcanon that surely she wants to be eternally young. When you consider the kids ages they just seem too old for Bella to have had them without a potion of youth. Either that or she's not their real mum, but I prefer the potion of youth idea. In my game she is always unfaithful to Mortimer kind of carrying on from TS2 days even though her aspiration in 4 is Party Animal.Cassandra has always been a very quiet girl who is focussed on her studies. I've always seen her as a scientist or a researcher/academic but her music aspiration in TS4 threw me to consider that maybe she's more creative. I always saw Mortimer as an academic too. I think she is interested in love, but struggles to meet the right person.Alexander in my game has kind of broken away from the more serious public image of the Goths. He is adventurous and wants to live in the city when he's an adult and can make his own way. Whereas Cassandra would be the one staying in the family home. Sorry for the unexpectedly long post!

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JesLet40
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
I love this thread! So many fantastic ideas.

Eliza and Bob Pancakes:
Eliza and Bob met when Bob was a promising athlete ready to be snatched up by some major team. She was pretty - he was popular and promising, they were the "it"-couple and both loved the attention, though Bob was less into the relationship than Eliza and played around (and wondered if girls was really his thing at all) while Eliza was planning on becoming a rich and famous athlete's wife. Desperate not to be left on the sidelines as Bob rose to fame, she feigned a pregnancy and convinced Bob to "do the right thing" and marry her, thinking the pregnancy would come fast enough with some effort. It didn't and Eliza had to confess her lie.

More so, a few months later when Bob was severely injured and told he would never play again. In fact he has trouble working full time and they live off a rather modest means. They inherited the house, which is how they can afford living in Willow Springs. Eliza feels cheated out of her life in fame and riches. Bob feels trapped in a marriage he didn't really want, with no children in sight. They stopped trying around the time he was injured. Eliza hasn't shared his bed since. Bob would really love children, but has resigned to a life of unhappiness.

Johnny Zest
Is every bit as ruthless as his mother, which is what she doesn't understand. Her disappointment came from not seeing her son take her place - but he is just as ambitious as she is, he just didn't want her line of work. He works hard at being funny, but he is also prepared to lie, cheat and commit crimes to reach the fame he thinks he deserves.

A few random facts:

He hates Oasis Springs, but cannot afford to move out. In fact, after the Landgraabs moved there he has never left. He longs for something else.
Dad payed for his trailer, as he'd be homeless without it.
He and Dina has a thing, but he won't date her properly as he doesn't see her as a ticket out of town or a help in his career. He really likes her though.
Once a year his mother calls him and offer to "sort things out" - something she does to be able to tell his father that she tried, knowing fully well he'll turn her down, which he does because he knows that she is insincere.
Simmingal
Hero
3 years ago
Bob Pancakes is actually werewolf and the reason he is so depresso is because eliza won't let him do werewolfey things

Spoiler
his shirt has mountains on it because he likes mountains

the reason he doesn't drink more than 2 cups of coffee a day is because he would get too energized and turn into werewolf

the reason he was allowed to stay up until midnight only once is because eliza has been giving him sleeping pills so he cannot transform and go howl at the moon

he has been missing all the exercise he used to get with running in the woods at night so now when he tries to exercise in human way its just awful

he doesn't always eat breakfast (he didn't have to before having hunted the woods at night) but now he makes pancakes cause those are normal i suppose

stay weirder = don't let eliza get in the way of your werewolf life

also Thomas Watson definitely worships ΜØŦĦ€Ř because his whole life is oversized crops and ΜØŦĦ€Ř definitely is one

also he would definitely turn into plantsim eventually with all his gardening
guilhermesvf
6 years ago
"sueplayssims;c-17236236" wrote:
"Sindocat;c-17236006" wrote:
"gothiclandgrabbs;d-965878" wrote:
cassanra goth lesbain

Come to think, this YA restyle of Cassandra does kind of look like she may be preparing to queue an "Enthuse About Radcliffe Hall" interaction, with her brother-in-law, here... ;)

https://i.imgur.com/YznHFNx.png

I like Cassandra and the family always enjoy her visits.

Funnily enough, I gave Cassandra a very similar makeover when I aged her up in game. Including same hair.

I love the goths. To me, Mortimer has always been old money and maybe English/German ancestry. He is very studious and has a strong work ethic.

Bella is significantly younger. In my game I have a bit of a headcanon that surely she wants to be eternally young. When you consider the kids ages they just seem too old for Bella to have had them without a potion of youth. Either that or she's not their real mum, but I prefer the potion of youth idea. In my game she is always unfaithful to Mortimer kind of carrying on from TS2 days even though her aspiration in 4 is Party Animal.

Cassandra has always been a very quiet girl who is focussed on her studies. I've always seen her as a scientist or a researcher/academic but her music aspiration in TS4 threw me to consider that maybe she's more creative. I always saw Mortimer as an academic too. I think she is interested in love, but struggles to meet the right person.

Alexander in my game has kind of broken away from the more serious public image of the Goths. He is adventurous and wants to live in the city when he's an adult and can make his own way. Whereas Cassandra would be the one staying in the family home.

Sorry for the unexpectedly long post!

About Bella's age, there are a lot of premade Sims in Sims 3/4 that are YA and have kids/teenagers and i have always felt só uncomfortable with that, because this kinda implies that they had babies as teens or worse. Gross
simonsverysims
6 years ago
nancy landgrab was a teen who took a potion to become old
simonsverysims
6 years ago
dina got turned into a vamp
katrinA is dating nalani
lia is a transbeian
nina is a mermaid
ryttu3k
New Spectator
6 years ago
"ryttu3k;c-17236196" wrote:
Del Sol Valley: Izzy Fabulous describes both his gender and orientation as 'queer' and, as mentioned above, is dating Diego Lobo. It actually works out pretty well - Diego can critique someone's fashion sense then say, hey, I know a good stylist... Kayla Flemming is a lesbian. Once she meets Lilith, they're going to get on extremely well. Judith Ward hasn't visibly aged for about twenty years. This is because she's a vampire (turned by Vlad). And Thorne Bailey and Octavia Moon have no actual relationship to speak of and both see other people as they will. They stay together for two reasons - the first being their son, and the second being that Octavia is more successful as a songwriter with a charismatic singer like Thorne, and Thorne is more successful as a singer with a talented songwriter like Octavia. It's mutually convenient for them both.

Forgot Del Sol Valley, added it in now!
karon_shiruba
6 years ago
"AngeliqueAdelaide;c-17236362" wrote:
@ryttu3k
I love your theories about the Goth family, it's quite simillar to the way I play them.
My headcanon: the Caliente sisters are responsible for the whacked up timeline of Sims 4. At some point after sending Don Lothario to the past, they started to miss him and tried to bring him back. But it went very wrong, breaking the world and causing several people to be pulled over from both different points of same timeline and from completely different timelines. The Calientes themselves lost their alien powers as a punishment for messing with things that must not be messed with.
That's the reason why we have premades whose ages make no sense and different versions of sims from earlier games.

@AngeliqueAdelaide Sending Don Lothario to the past would be enough to break the reality as we know.

@ryttu3k Katrina is 'N'i'g'h'a't'. They only change her name to Katrina, cuz her older name sounds too similar to the 'N' word. That's why when you rename her as 'N'i'g'h'a't' the game will alert you that there is offensive content on you household. Her hair being red instead of blond doesn't mean anything, maybe she's just painting.

"Dust_Bunny2010;c-17236634" wrote:
Dustin Broke and the Pancakes must never meet under pain of the whole universe imploding.

@Dust_Bunny2010 why? they were never related to one another...
simonsverysims
6 years ago
landgrabbs are spellcasters
Trykmi
6 years ago
I go with the wiki canon and sometimes what MCCC and the other mod gives me.. so Cassandra and Bella are going to be both spellcaster because according to the wiki, all the women in the family are supposed to be.
guilhermesvf
4 years ago
"SiliClone;c-17240174" wrote:
I go with the wiki canon and sometimes what MCCC and the other mod gives me.. so Cassandra and Bella are going to be both spellcaster because according to the wiki, all the women in the family are supposed to be.

@SiliClone if you're sayign that because Cassandra's grandmother has the Curmplebottom surname, then only Cassie will be a spellcaster, Bella isn't related to them. Unless you're talking about the Makin' Magic render that Bella's using a wand.