ROM: 5 Must Have Features!

Ok, I know we want witches, I know, I probably want them above all other things, but wheres the variety guys? Like lets give them multiple occult ideas, not just one.

-Witches (duh)
-Werewolf's (start out with the basics)
-Demon
-Angel
-Leprechaun (idk, not the best, but I said I wanted variety)
-Nymph (ok, they need to add an occult for gardening, tell me that wouldn't be interesting)
-Succubus(no judgement, but lets be really, its not like they wouldn't)
-Other were-animals?
-Lizard People(they've always been known to add goofy conspiracy/stereotype stuff to the game, maybe one should be lizard people that live beneath us)
-A spider one????
-I really want gargoyles, but like just as pets or friendly beasts
-A genie that isn't a sim but something you can interact with (then you can flirt with them for a fourth wish)

Thats about it, I was kinda of losing it there at the end, anyways, it be cool if anyone else had any other unique ideas

-KoKo

1.at least two aspirations tied to magicky things
2. magic inspired lot traits
3. a b/b aesthetic that could be used for different magic types(personally I would love if we got more elemental magic so we can influence things like nature and the environment)
4. skill tree for magic folk like the fame and/or vamp one
5. a new world

I'm trying to avoid saying witches in case they decide to not call the new occult witches but really I want this pack to be able to stay a small part of my main save but if I wanted to I could turn all the worlds into "realms of magic"

I want an in-depth magic system in the game instead of multiple occults, not even fairies are necessarily needed if they are just there to fill the gap.

What a fun idea. I think my top 5 would be...

1. Witches good, evil, and neutral.
2. Spells with spell book, enchantments, apothecary for potion making and powers over the elements like fire, water, wind, earth. Ability to control weather. Cast blessings and curses or brew potions to alter moods, needs, beauty, relationships.
3. I'd like the world to at least have a village similar to Hogsmead from Harry Potter with magic shops. It doesn't have to be exact but have that medieval magical feel to it. And perhaps an enchanted Forest for other mythical creatures.
4. Pet familiar. But can be any kind of pet. With the return of dragons.
5. I'd like to have some kind of festival/carnival with a combination of things from Magic Town and Supernatural with haunted houses, gypsy caravan for fortune telling, crystal ball, pumpkin patch, magic shows, broomstick race, etc.

1. mystical themed items and clothes that aren't only palate'd to fit in with the magic theme.
2. It must have magic. Seems obvious but a pack called realms of magic it should 100% be there.
3. New magic aspirations, jobs and interactions (e.g.potions, battles) . Again seems obvious but a magic pack without this will flop harder that pet stuff.
4.Generic occult should be added. witch, wizard ect. If not perhaps an obtainable trait by levelling the magic skill. I don't believe that having a CAS occult is necessary by some level to show that a sim has begun or peaked a magical journey. It may even be a job.
5. The last item needed for realms to be a half decent game pack is something never seen before in previous sim games. This is sims 4 but so far the packs have been rehashes of older sim game packs with less stuff. I believe that's due to how hard the sims 4 program is to code and new packs need to work and sometimes interact with all the older packs and vice versa. My only Idea is that they evolve into classes of magic or maybe at something like a magic school where teenagers can go and its a playable job.


Things I think would be cool but aren't necessary to the pack or unlikely.
1. A new world. Yes a magic world would be really cool, amazing. But whats the real probability. I think considering the last expansion and game pack all included a new world that its unlikely and also i'd argue that its not really required to make this game pack whole. If they do manage to add one then I'll be impressed.
2. more occult. we have to remember that this is just a game pack. they had trouble enough just added vampires with their skill trees. should their be more than 3 occult added expect that most of them wont be fleshed out or have skill trees like vampires and probably wont change your game much aside from a few interactions seen in previous sims games. I personally would rather just have a couple of fleshed out characters than lots of random ones and I also know and the sims team probably know that the occult fan base is a select group of fans that are just under the majority.
3. I would just love new hidden stuff added to the game and I think this mysterious pack is the time to do it. If they don't it will probably be just like normal maybe a hidden trait or so but we need more things that fans don't know about. I add this here because I don't think its essential to the magic gameplay.
4.difficult game play. This is just me specifically but god damn is it hard to die in sims 4 if your just playing regular game play. the cowplant wont eat you unless you do it manually. your sims know never to drown. electrocution is so rare I've played hundreds of hours on the sims 4 and Iv'e yet to die once by accident and one isn't enough for me. This occult pack is the perfect place to add more lethality to the game or at least an option to players in the menu to ramp it up while more casual players can keep the level its at now.
5.Lastly AI interaction. I really want to see the AI talk and fight amongst themselves using magic almost like a story is unfolding and my sim isn't a part of it. (yet..) different covens or witches vs wizards join a side via a hidden train and when you in public lots they will fight it out. sometimes to the death. not all should be part of a team and it should only occur when there's a certain number of magic sims in the game including homeless sims.

I'f you've made it this far thanks for reading and I'd love to hear your opinions on what you like or dislike about my ideas or how you'd change or improve them.

I thought ROM mention a museum since one of Toronto's museums is Royal Ontario Museum

> @leetamme said:
> What a fun idea. I think my top 5 would be...
>
> 1. Witches good, evil, and neutral.
> 2. Spells with spell book, enchantments, apothecary for potion making and powers over the elements like fire, water, wind, earth. Ability to control weather. Cast blessings and curses or brew potions to alter moods, needs, beauty, relationships.
> 3. I'd like the world to at least have a village similar to Hogsmead from Harry Potter with magic shops. It doesn't have to be exact but have that medieval magical feel to it. And perhaps an enchanted Forest for other mythical creatures.
> 4. Pet familiar. But can be any kind of pet. With the return of dragons.
> 5. I'd like to have some kind of festival/carnival with a combination of things from Magic Town and Supernatural with haunted houses, gypsy caravan for fortune telling, crystal ball, pumpkin patch, magic shows, broomstick race, etc.

Familiars seem kind of a cool feature It will probably just be the current pets with a viable or hidden trait but they might add new simple animals like frogs, toads and bats. Ive never been a fan of the festivals myself but I would like it if it had all that awesome stuff.

"NightPhoenixV;c-17132203" wrote:
> @leetamme said:
> What a fun idea. I think my top 5 would be...
>
> 1. Witches good, evil, and neutral.
> 2. Spells with spell book, enchantments, apothecary for potion making and powers over the elements like fire, water, wind, earth. Ability to control weather. Cast blessings and curses or brew potions to alter moods, needs, beauty, relationships.
> 3. I'd like the world to at least have a village similar to Hogsmead from Harry Potter with magic shops. It doesn't have to be exact but have that medieval magical feel to it. And perhaps an enchanted Forest for other mythical creatures.
> 4. Pet familiar. But can be any kind of pet. With the return of dragons.
> 5. I'd like to have some kind of festival/carnival with a combination of things from Magic Town and Supernatural with haunted houses, gypsy caravan for fortune telling, crystal ball, pumpkin patch, magic shows, broomstick race, etc.

Familiars seem kind of a cool feature It will probably just be the current pets with a viable or hidden trait but they might add new simple animals like frogs, toads and bats. Ive never been a fan of the festivals myself but I would like it if it had all that awesome stuff.

I would love to see more pets. Festivals or flea markets based around magic and potions would be amazing.

"Jasper7702;c-17131442" wrote:
My 5 must have features are:

1. New spells, spell books, training, wands. Enchanted items like amulets. Dark and Light Magic. Good and bad witches. Forbidden spells. Transformation spells for others and yourself. Basically very detailed and thought out magic. I honestly only want this and witches to be focused on.
2. New pets that could be based off of the hamster in MFP like: toads, spiders, snakes, small mythical creatures. Dragons if they can pull it off.
3. A world with 12+ lots. New venues related to the realm of Magic. Different neighborhoods like: a bustling town, a fairy village, a swamp for witches or other creatures.
4. New items for conducting magic or brewing potions. Broom sticks for flying and doing sports, along with cleaning. Witching table for doing enchantments and etc.
5. Occult’s with different forms not just a Regular looking witch, but different types of witches: an old hag, a young enchantress, a queen of the dark arts, a good bubbly witch, etc.

Another thing I wouldn’t mind if there was a single universal tree of magic that can be shared between: fairies, witches, and other magical occult’s with just a few magic related things to set them apart.

I would love to see fairies so we can maybe have different heights in the sims,

I would love to see werewolves to bring body hair.

I know it’s just a GP, but if they could bring in some minor occult’s with not much to really go into them. That would bring some more diversity to the pack.

I don’t think fairies and werewolves need a lot of different features from what we would get with witches

Werewolves just need their transformation, wether they are cursed or they chose to transform, lunar phases, their werewolf form and cas items for it.

Fairies need their magic (shared with witches possibly), their aesthetic, wings and outfits, transformation if they have one, and a few other details.

The things I really want overall is a well thought out, detailed, overhaul in terms of the magic system for witches. I could give or take the fairies. Kinda want werewolves, but I don’t want the pack to feel lacking.

As much as I would like that.. it definately sounds wayyy to big for a game pack?

Ultimately:

1: Sim Customization, I know it's very Vague... But I don't want to play with witches, I want to play with Sorcerers and the way I believe how magic works. So this means We are given the Generic Breed of the Life State of a Magic User "Witch" and Like in Cats and Dogs, you choose a dog and you customize it into the breed you want. Same should apply to the "Witch" Life state, you choose Witch and then you can rename it and configure it into the breed your own desires. Magic is arbitrary and You should be able to craft a Witch, Wizard, Druid, Enchanter, Summoner, Prophet, or my personal favorite, Sorcerer, the way you envision not how pop culture tells you.

2: Magic and Spells, I'm hoping there is no alignment system. Only because not all Light magic is love and good, and not all Dark magic is hate and evil. Light magic can hurt, and a truly evil person can manipulate light magic for evil purposes, and a Good person can justify using dark magic for good reasons. So using Dark magic shouldn't shift your alignment. Also, hoping they're not thinking about using a Magic Meter, Magic should feed off of the Sorcerer's Energy Gauge. Since Magic is a form of Energy, Magic should technically feed off of the Hunger gauge too but more so Energy. Emotions should hold weight in terms of a Magical spell's Success rate and strength.
and I'm not talking Anger = Strong Fire magic, Sad = Strong water magic, definitely don't want to see "Sim is too sad to do magic right now." nothing lame like that.

I want to see:
Focused, Inspired, Confident, Energized = Strong spells, and high success rates.
Fine & Happy = General emotions Spells will not have increased success rates or strength boosts
Flirty, Dazed, Playful = Distracted emotions could go either way, some spells may yield towards success, but could go wrong in other ways as well.
Sad, Tense, Uncomfortable, Embarrassed = Weaker Spells, and wide room for errors.
Anger = Strong Spells indeed, however casting spells while angry can be very reckless, and fatal to one's self, or bystanders, and or victim. You could win a fight if you are fighting out of anger, however are you willing to risk a potential possibly fatal, mistake?

Finally, I just want to Point out, I noticed Elementals doing Elemental Magic, and I have to say I approve! I just hope Fire, water/Ice, Earth and Wind, as well as Light and Dark Magic are lethal. I know this is the Sims 4, but this is also Magic we're talking about.
Magic is serious business, that's what makes it fun to play with. I want Curses and potions, to really "Better or worsen" sims lives.
My truly evil sorceress should be able to craft a curse of infertility, and Going about those ingredients should be horrible.
I'd imagine the ingredients to be: Parsley, an Orchid, and the Tears of a Toddler... I mean why else add toddlers to the game? Might as well make them useful, right? >:)
If you give this Curse of infertility to a Sim with the "Big Happy Family" or "Successful Lineage" Aspirations. the victim should spiral into a State of prolonged sadness.

3: Make it challenging! Don't just give me the flying broomstick, or the magic mirror, in buy mode or the rewards store.
allow me to purchase just a common household broomstick from buy mode, or craft it at the woodworking station. and then with my powers I should be able to cast a "Levitation" enchantment on the broom stick so it can fly, or an "Animation" enchantment so it can be automatic cleaning/servant/Babysitter like the in Fantasia, the Sorcerer's Apprentice.
Also, I should be able to purchase Any mirror from the buy catalog, imbue the mirror with my power over time, and once the mirror is at full power, I cast a "Curse of Isolation upon my victim of choice, and the curse entraps the victim in my mirror, thus creating my own personal "Slave in the magic mirror"

4: I really really want forbidden Magic, Spells that are "Too dark" for the Game, Which I don't think they are, because the spell was inspired by a family friendly TV show, called Once Upon a Time. The Spell is the Good ol' famous Heart Rip. It's not at all Bloody ore anything. The sorcerer is able to magically, Phase their hand through and reach into the chest cavity of the victim, grab hold of the heart, of the victim and pluck it out... like an apple ripe for picking. And So now the Sorcerer has a Heartless puppet to control and obey the sorcerer's every whim. I always say it makes Voodoo look deficient. And I don't understand why it wouldn't fit the Sims 4 aesthetic, The Sims 4 was all about emotions, what better way to play with emotions, with magic, and literally holding the heart of your lover, and/or enemy and making them go on an emotional rollercoster!

5: If there is room For a world, My hope is that it's an Arthurian legend Fantasy type world, however I want to dress my Sorcerers and other characters in Baroque fashion. But for the World, I'm picturing a Feudal society. Where we have castle (64x64 or bigger lot size) overlooking a village. I think 5 Lots total in this world. Personally I'm not going to build Magic shops or anything, My sorcerer will reside in the castle as Lord, and Arch Mage of the region/realm, and he is the one who will procure ingredients to then craft potions, curses, enchantments, etc. So his castle will also act like a museum/library for magical artifacts he collects. but for the Village, I'm going to build a Tavern, I would love. I'm thinking about building Crafting stores/workshops. kind of like what you see in MMOs, Hoping we would get skill lines associated with them too.

I would like Blacksmithing working with metal, and creating swords and Knight's armors and we could get a sword fighting skill too. We have Woodworking, I would like to expand it, with Shield making/Heraldry and Archery creating bows and arrows, and I wish we could do Hunting, in the sims, but I guess just target practice as a sport would be fine. I wouldn't be mad if it's just that. and the better you are at Archery and Sword fighting the better bows and swords you can craft as you excel with blacksmithing and woodworking. Let's see... My Sorcerer would be the alchemist, and enchanter in the village.
Maybe I'd build barracks for My Sorcerer's Knight's who protect the village. Sort of a Knight's Club peacekeepers that fight off evil Daemonic/Vampire/Sorcerer/Rebels Clubs. And then I was going to say a farm, but... I don't know I would like a separate focused Pack for farming. So yeah I think 5 lots total one big one for my castle, and then 4 other lots in the village. maybe a 6th lot out in the forest/plains outside of the village limits, i would like a forest area to explore for ingredients, and creatures to fight.

these are the main ingredients I at least need for this game pack. The rest i can work out with mods and cc.