I'm very glad that Seasons is coming, since it is one of the most requested packs, however there is (like always) something obviously lacking about an EP, so here's the thing with Seasons, which someone pointed out:https://twitter.com/SimsTimeOficial/status/999842609261613056The EP looks good, but the details such as this are just the downfall of Sims 4 packs.Shoes don't sink in the snow, since it seems like the only thing snow really does is turning the floor white and nothing else. Same with roofs, why is the snow so flat?.Little disappointed with that, since Winter is my favorite Season in the game.. Also: Since we had the amazing melting of snow in Sims 3, you know, the gradual thing; will it be like this in the SIms 4 too, or will it just be some on/off switch?.. *Update*Looks like the Windows CAN become blurry. Still waiting for the snow thing though..https://twitter.com/SimsTimeOficial/status/999861159737090049{EA_Lanna: Merged discussions. Adapted title to be encompassing to discussion points}

I'm cool with it personally. It's really not that far off from SimCookie',s winter mod and tons of simmers have used that for years with no complaints. Now in addition we get the effect of falling snow, we can build snowmen, have snowball fights, and go ice skating. Plus our Sims react to the weather. I think this is going to be an awesome pack!

"Pamtastic72;c-16490902" wrote:I'm cool with it personally. It's really not that far off from SimCookie',s winter mod and tons of simmers have used that for years with no complaints. Now in addition we get the effect of falling snow, we can build snowmen, have snowball fights, and go ice skating. Plus our Sims react to the weather. I think this is going to be an awesome pack!Fair enough, but because a modder made something available years ago, does not mean EA can't make it better. Especially since they did so in the past games.It's one of my gripes with this game, and this seems to repeat itself every time. I am not saying the EP is bad, I am only saying that little (or for me personally big) things like this are really disappointing with the Sims 4 so far.

"flowerkitten67;c-16490906" wrote:It would have been nice to have accumulated snow as a ultra settings thing, for those of us who have computers who can handle it and then no accumulation on medium-low settings. However, that is the only flaw of the pack that I can see so far :) Yes, the rest of the pack looks good, but I think it's very disappointing and I hope they will elaborate on that subject when they have the time.

"rudy8292;d-940260" wrote:I'm very glad that Seasons is coming, since it is one of the most requested packs, however there is (like always) something obviously lacking about an EP, so here's the thing with Seasons, which someone pointed out:https://twitter.com/SimsTimeOficial/status/999842609261613056The EP looks good, but the details such as this are just the downfall of Sims 4 packs.Shoes don't sink in the snow, since it seems like the only thing snow really does is turning the floor white and nothing else. Same with roofs, why is the snow so flat?.Little disappointed with that, since Winter is my favorite Season in the game.. Also: Since we had the amazing melting of snow in Sims 3, you know, the gradual thing; will it be like this in the SIms 4 too, or will it just be some on/off switch?.. I personally like it this way only because in sims 3 when my puppies or kittens where out in the snow I couldn't see them... Or if my sims put something down in the snow it was lost until spring. I remember hating it the fact I could never find the newspaper and when the snow melted there was a ton of used papers I had to recycle xD

"rudy8292;c-16490912" wrote:"flowerkitten67;c-16490906" wrote:It would have been nice to have accumulated snow as a ultra settings thing, for those of us who have computers who can handle it and then no accumulation on medium-low settings. However, that is the only flaw of the pack that I can see so far :) Yes, the rest of the pack looks good, but I think it's very disappointing and I hope they will elaborate on that subject when they have the time.If that is true, that there is no accumulation, then that is a major flaw. I loved how the snow would build up into drifts in sims 2 and 3. Are we sure about this? Maybe there are effects that are not included in the trailer. We need to get it verified by a dev or guru.

Seasons: Snow Depth and Accumulation?

JanuaryGarnet08
New Spectator
7 years ago
I'm cool with it personally. It's really not that far off from SimCookie',s winter mod and tons of simmers have used that for years with no complaints. Now in addition we get the effect of falling snow, we can build snowmen, have snowball fights, and go ice skating. Plus our Sims react to the weather. I think this is going to be an awesome pack!
DomainGoat90
New Spectator
7 years ago
"Pamtastic72;c-16490902" wrote:
I'm cool with it personally. It's really not that far off from SimCookie',s winter mod and tons of simmers have used that for years with no complaints. Now in addition we get the effect of falling snow, we can build snowmen, have snowball fights, and go ice skating. Plus our Sims react to the weather. I think this is going to be an awesome pack!

Fair enough, but because a modder made something available years ago, does not mean EA can't make it better. Especially since they did so in the past games.

It's one of my gripes with this game, and this seems to repeat itself every time. I am not saying the EP is bad, I am only saying that little (or for me personally big) things like this are really disappointing with the Sims 4 so far.
DomainGoat90
New Spectator
7 years ago
"flowerkitten67;c-16490906" wrote:
It would have been nice to have accumulated snow as a ultra settings thing, for those of us who have computers who can handle it and then no accumulation on medium-low settings.

However, that is the only flaw of the pack that I can see so far :)

Yes, the rest of the pack looks good, but I think it's very disappointing and I hope they will elaborate on that subject when they have the time.
Cheekybits
7 years ago
"rudy8292;d-940260" wrote:
I'm very glad that Seasons is coming, since it is one of the most requested packs, however there is (like always) something obviously lacking about an EP, so here's the thing with Seasons, which someone pointed out:

https://twitter.com/SimsTimeOficial/status/999842609261613056

The EP looks good, but the details such as this are just the downfall of Sims 4 packs.

Shoes don't sink in the snow, since it seems like the only thing snow really does is turning the floor white and nothing else. Same with roofs, why is the snow so flat?.

Little disappointed with that, since Winter is my favorite Season in the game..

Also: Since we had the amazing melting of snow in Sims 3, you know, the gradual thing; will it be like this in the SIms 4 too, or will it just be some on/off switch?..

I personally like it this way only because in sims 3 when my puppies or kittens where out in the snow I couldn't see them... Or if my sims put something down in the snow it was lost until spring. I remember hating it the fact I could never find the newspaper and when the snow melted there was a ton of used papers I had to recycle xD
cookiesuzette
7 years ago
"rudy8292;c-16490912" wrote:
"flowerkitten67;c-16490906" wrote:
It would have been nice to have accumulated snow as a ultra settings thing, for those of us who have computers who can handle it and then no accumulation on medium-low settings.

However, that is the only flaw of the pack that I can see so far :)

Yes, the rest of the pack looks good, but I think it's very disappointing and I hope they will elaborate on that subject when they have the time.

If that is true, that there is no accumulation, then that is a major flaw. I loved how the snow would build up into drifts in sims 2 and 3.
Are we sure about this? Maybe there are effects that are not included in the trailer. We need to get it verified by a dev or guru.
JackJack_Morris
7 years ago
Honestly, I’m happy for this reason:

Realism vs Gameplay

Basically, while it’s realistic for Snow to be thick, it meant it was harder to actually play the game because you would lose objects in the snow.
It also drained FPS heavily in both The Sims 2 and 3, when all it added was some minor realism with no real advantage.

What are the pros? More realistic snow.
What are the cons? Potential lag, annoyances and reduced user experience.

Nope, scrap it.

I will however be concerned if it’s on-screen effects rather than actual rain and snow. A rain or snow filter doesn’t fly with me in 2018, and is painfully obvious.
DomainGoat90
New Spectator
7 years ago
"ANNETTE1951;c-16490933" wrote:
"rudy8292;c-16490912" wrote:
"flowerkitten67;c-16490906" wrote:
It would have been nice to have accumulated snow as a ultra settings thing, for those of us who have computers who can handle it and then no accumulation on medium-low settings.

However, that is the only flaw of the pack that I can see so far :)

Yes, the rest of the pack looks good, but I think it's very disappointing and I hope they will elaborate on that subject when they have the time.

If that is true, that there is no accumulation, then that is a major flaw. I loved how the snow would build up into drifts in sims 2 and 3.
Are we sure about this? Maybe there are effects that are not included in the trailer. We need to get it verified by a dev or guru.

Yes, same here. I loved that aspect. But from the trailer it really seems like snow is only a retexture of the grass and roofs, it looks like it has no depth to it at all. I find that really strange and if it is like that, a massive oversight.

The fact we are getting this EP next month is all fun and games, but if they needed more time to make that better, just go ahead. Especially for people playing on higher end systems...

I hope a guru can clarify.
DomainGoat90
New Spectator
7 years ago
"jackjack_k;c-16490938" wrote:
Honestly, I’m happy for this reason:

Realism vs Gameplay

Basically, while it’s realistic for Snow to be thick, it meant it was harder to actually play the game because you would lose objects in the snow.
It also drained FPS heavily in both The Sims 2 and 3, when all it added was some minor realism with no real advantage.

What are the pros? More realistic snow.
What are the cons? Potential lag, annoyances and reduced user experience.

Nope, scrap it.

I will however be concerned if it’s on-screen effects rather than actual rain and snow. A rain or snow filter doesn’t fly with me in 2018, and is painfully obvious.

I get what you are saying about potential lag, I do, but there are also many people playing the Sims on a high end gaming rig, and personally I had enough of the ''performance'' excuses for lower end systems. Instead of upping the quality for higher end systems by even a setting or what not, gives people with decent systems more to play with and people with older systems can just experience the same but with slight differences.

also I am hoping there are also various intensities of rain and snow. I loved Seasons in Sims 3, I mean, the weather effects in Sims 3 were so good. I just hope they have the same weather system where it's slowly clearing up and the rain/snow slowly/gradually stops etc.

I know this is just a trailer and there are probably more things to talk about on this subject, but ugh. I just want to know what we're in for.
ck213
Seasoned Scout
7 years ago
Meh, I like my snow thick and losing track of things just feels natural. :D
I also loved now snow melted in TS3. Sometimes I would just sit and watch the transition.
Also, discovering where certain things were that were lost in the snow. :)
beyonceismymom
7 years ago
So then I wonder how shoveling snow will work?