"Raevyn;c-17701023" wrote:
"halloweenchild;c-17700993" wrote:
Funny thing is, I thought the "shrine" WAS a "pay respects to ancestors" action. I mean, we only saw the image of a sim bowing in a teaser trailer ffs, for all we know it could have been a "doctored" shot (something the sims team have done in the past for their trailers). Snowy Escape features the first official graveyard in TS4, so I assumed that it was a "pay respects" action over anything pertaining to religion. Something about the complete overreaction from Korean (and woke) players just rubs me the wrong way, like they're happy to jump to a conclusion without getting any further details. As I said, this was just a teaser I am fully disappointed that the interactions with the "shrine/grave/w/e" it is, will be removed, truthfully it should be optional and have a low "autonomous" queue action. Having it removed is more disrespectful imho.
Yes, I can totally see your point. AND I think if we were to look into it, we would find that EVERY culture that has been represented in TS4 can be related back to a time terrible things have happened to people/culture. When Hijabs for example were released into the game in order to represent the culture/religion of Muslims/Islamic people, we didn't cry out against such things in the game because of Terrorist attacks from radicalized Muslims/Islamic people & say that having them is culturally inappropriate to the Western world who have been the targets of these attacks. We understood that that was then and this is now, it happened but not all people from that culture do those things and that it is important for them to be included in such games.
I think this community, in particular, can go a bit silly over these types of things. MANY other games out there include people of colour, Asians, and many many other cultures. Games such as COD include wars and gunfights/killing against Asians and POC, does that community cry out that it is culturally inappropriate & do they remove it? No. Because a lot of people understand it is a GAME and is a work of fantasy (although maybe inspired by real-life events) it isn't referring to any one particular issue and I think at time people need to step back and say "well its a game, I wont play it or use that object if I dont like it and/or are upset by it".
Every culture pretty much throughout ALL of history has had a history of brutality and abuse if you look deep enough. From events as far back as Viking raids, the crusades, the witch trials, invading of Indigenous lands (in Australia & North America among many others), to the slave trade. This is a world BUILT on the brutality of others.
This wasn't an intentional thing put in the game to upset people. What IS brought into question is "How far back is far enough NOT to upset people over the brutality and oppression of others". Do the people in England still get upset over Viking raids? Or is that far back enough now that it doesn't matter? This is obviously is a very broad and individual question and when it comes to this game and that particular object in question, for the Koreans, it still struck feelings which is why we had the response we had from them. Perhaps if this game were to be released in 100 more years time, it wouldn't have had the reaction it did.
I do agree though, that NOT much information about that particular object was given as to what it was for and what its functions were to be aside from doing a bow to it and perhaps we should have waited to see what it was called & its other functions before jumping into conclusions.
Yeah, I remember when the Muslim clothing items were added to the game a few simmers were "offended" that the items were added (against their "consent" to the game (aka a free patch)) but I don't recall them ever making a huge fuss and demanding the items be removed or changed.
Hard agree though, this community for better or for worse has the tendency to go waaaaay off the deepened. I get it, it comes from a place of passion, but I can't help but feel as though this particular "outrage" has gone way too far. Especially since it's over something with very little information and the fact that the action has now been removed from the game and the "shrine is now just a "decorative" item (and the trailer has been edited to reflect that) is downright distasteful and imho disrespectful to Japanese people.
It just makes me wish that in this day and age that people would just stop and use their brains instead of believing everything they read on the internet.
And yes, compared to other countries that were occupied for centuries by hostile invaders (England by the Romans, South America by the Spanish, most of Europe by each other at one point or another), Korea, China and other parts of Asia that were invaded during WW2 got off fairly easy by comparison. The one thing though is that those events just became history and people are mostly over it.
But I do agree, I think if it was a few more decades or even a century ago and not as "fresh" people wouldn't be as mad. At least, I hope.
I can't help but feel like this "controversy" is nothing more than low-key jealousy and might have some kind of political motivation behind it all (from some limited research I've done, won't go into here though to avoid being blasted)
