Sims 4 Not So Happy Play Thread & Neutral , No Bashing just your thought's

"Terra;14924048" wrote:
One of the most frustrating things for me is the tone of the Sims 4 PR team. Patch notes are filled with lines of 'jokes' that try to mask the low levels of content. (They even acknowledged this in recent patch notes.) Then they include things in the patch that weren't even included in the notes, like the changes to how adults' and elders' faces look, or relationship culling. But the worst bit is how they pretend that there is no negative feedback for this game. When you go to the Sims Facebook page, the official page only responds to the positive comments. When Dine Out came out, my sister and I were surprised to see that all of the comments on the FB post were positive, since we had been disappointed by this pack's release. However, when you keep scrolling past the first several dozen comments, which all have responses from the page, you see the many, many comments expressing frustration with the pack, which have hundreds of Likes but are ignored by the official team.

From a marketing perspective, it may be easy to see why they make this choice of plastering positivity over all of their PR. But for the many Simmers who are frequently frustrated by this game, it creates a real feeling of disconnect between Maxis and the players. This is exacerbated by the fact that when content comes out with so many bugs, it feels like the developers did not even test play the game and are disconnected from the players' experience. In any other game it wouldn't be acceptable to release a game pack with so many bugs.

The overly peppy tone is so different from that of TS2. The obsessions with partying are also very different than the focal points of Sims 2. The ironing out of the offbeat sides of the Sims franchise began with TS3, but there was such a wealth of content in TS3 with the Store that you could really tailor your game to whatever offbeat flavour you wanted. When you look at games like TS2, the Urbz, Bustin' Out, and TS2 for GBA, it's hard to believe that TS4 is even the same franchise.

That being said, there are still many things I love about TS4 - like many people, it's CAS that keeps me coming back. There are actually plenty of things about Sims 4 that I do like (I personally really enjoy the emotions system, although it really ground my gears that they marketed it as the first time Sims had ever had emotions). But these feelings of frustration and disconnect are a real departure from my previous Sims experiences.

I do not use Twitter nor Facebook so I can only go by your word , I can believe that they try to hide the Negative comment's because they want people to buy the game packs, which to me is sneaky and under handed, I have played the Sim's franchise from Sims 1, so I know the going's on , I just wish that they would tell the truth about the game's pack's instead of telling lies with happy go lucky tales, so the People could really decide for themselves if they want to buy it or not, based on the truth.

I've reinstalled my Sims 3 and been playing that a lot and boy, oh boy, is it different and I'm not just talking in the obvious graphics way. There's so much to do! I don't even have all EPs, only about 3 of them and it's made me play TS4 less and less. Now there are definite things where I'm like "I miss that we have/could do x in TS4" and that's good because that shows that TS4 at least has some progress (the CAS and build mode are brilliant, no lies) but when it boils down to gameplay ding, ding, ding, we have a winner and it's TS3! The sims aren't as empty in TS4, there's no shallow emotions and more traits, lots of job choices and so much more to do. In TS4 it's like every family lives the same life no matter how much you try to switch it up. Also you have to pay attention to needs so much more in TS4 that it just takes up all the time. It sucks that TS3 really is so buggy and the graphics aren't as great, a combination of TS3 and TS4 would be golden.

Let's get on to the emotions. Oh my. I was so excited to see emotions when I started but an hour into gameplay and I very quickly preferred moodlets. I know we have moodlets but they're very emotion orientated and far too strong with their emotional boosts. For instance, as long as your house is nicely decorated your sim will always be happy. Never fine, happy. It would annoy me less if they didn't have that plum grin plastered on their face at all times. Emotions are very easy to manipulate and often pretty annoying. It's far too easy to get out of bad emotions but you often have to stick with positive ones like 'happy', 'inspired' and 'confident'. It's very predictable especially with the traits. If only the traits weren't so emotionally focused maybe our sims would have some depth.

We can only hope it gets better in future patches/EPs, though. Until then I'll enjoy the CAS and building system but hold off on gameplay until it gets better. My sims are withering away with meaningless lives. And can we please have back some form of memory system.

"jheyjuneice;14933540" wrote:
I've reinstalled my Sims 3 and been playing that a lot and boy, oh boy, is it different and I'm not just talking in the obvious graphics way. There's so much to do! I don't even have all EPs, only about 3 of them and it's made me play TS4 less and less. Now there are definite things where I'm like "I miss that we have/could do x in TS4" and that's good because that shows that TS4 at least has some progress (the CAS and build mode are brilliant, no lies) but when it boils down to gameplay ding, ding, ding, we have a winner and it's TS3! The sims aren't as empty in TS4, there's no shallow emotions and more traits, lots of job choices and so much more to do. In TS4 it's like every family lives the same life no matter how much you try to switch it up. Also you have to pay attention to needs so much more in TS4 that it just takes up all the time. It plum that TS3 really is so buggy and the graphics aren't as great, a combination of TS3 and TS4 would be golden.

Let's get on to the emotions. Oh my. I was so excited to see emotions when I started but an hour into gameplay and I very quickly preferred moodlets. I know we have moodlets but they're very emotion orientated and far too strong with their emotional boosts. For instance, as long as your house is nicely decorated your sim will always be happy. Never fine, happy. It would annoy me less if they didn't have that plum grin plastered on their face at all times. Emotions are very easy to manipulate and often pretty annoying. It's far too easy to get out of bad emotions but you often have to stick with positive ones like 'happy', 'inspired' and 'confident'. It's very predictable especially with the traits. If only the traits weren't so emotionally focused maybe our sims would have some depth.

We can only hope it gets better in future patches/EPs, though. Until then I'll enjoy the CAS and building system but hold off on gameplay until it gets better. My sims are withering away with meaningless lives. And can we please have back some form of memory system.

I totally agree, I had only the base game with pet's that came with it when I started sims 3, because Sims 4 is so bare and the fact that they wont let us buy the discs no more, I went out and bought other packs for Sims 3 and am loving them all, so much more to do in that game, I still play Sims 2 as well, to me they both are a ton better then Sims 4.

I'm back because right now, I'm even more unhappier than I was the last time I posted in your thread. I haven't installed the patch from the 16th yet, because afraid to do so. The last one broke my walls for my houses. I don't have time to redraw those walls where my Sims live. But that seems to be the going answer but it is only a temp fix and the walls are missing as soon as your reload the game. (no mods or cc). Also, we were promised the townies wouldn't show up in other gender clothes, so far not happened but I gave up the other day when more than ten female Sims showed up on different lots with the male hair. I didn't want it to spread any further. I'm not against the patch as long at it was optional for players and their own townies, but if the game is going to generate Sims outside my power with the cross gender hair etc. then I have a real bug there, too. The bug list in my own game just keeps getting bigger, no matter how many times I reset and repair my game. It's not a good game when it is more trouble to try to fix than play. Sound familiar? I'm thinking of uninstalling again for good and just closing my account here because I liked some of TS4 but this is just getting ridiculous now at it's two years in now, and all that money spent. And I have a feeling working on three years won't see anymore depth and fun than it is now and then just more crazy bugs like missing walls.

Toddlers please
thank you

"jheyjuneice;14933540" wrote:
I've reinstalled my Sims 3 and been playing that a lot and boy, oh boy, is it different and I'm not just talking in the obvious graphics way. There's so much to do! I don't even have all EPs, only about 3 of them and it's made me play TS4 less and less. Now there are definite things where I'm like "I miss that we have/could do x in TS4" and that's good because that shows that TS4 at least has some progress (the CAS and build mode are brilliant, no lies) but when it boils down to gameplay ding, ding, ding, we have a winner and it's TS3! The sims aren't as empty in TS4, there's no shallow emotions and more traits, lots of job choices and so much more to do. In TS4 it's like every family lives the same life no matter how much you try to switch it up. Also you have to pay attention to needs so much more in TS4 that it just takes up all the time. It plum that TS3 really is so buggy and the graphics aren't as great, a combination of TS3 and TS4 would be golden.

Let's get on to the emotions. Oh my. I was so excited to see emotions when I started but an hour into gameplay and I very quickly preferred moodlets. I know we have moodlets but they're very emotion orientated and far too strong with their emotional boosts. For instance, as long as your house is nicely decorated your sim will always be happy. Never fine, happy. It would annoy me less if they didn't have that plum grin plastered on their face at all times. Emotions are very easy to manipulate and often pretty annoying. It's far too easy to get out of bad emotions but you often have to stick with positive ones like 'happy', 'inspired' and 'confident'. It's very predictable especially with the traits. If only the traits weren't so emotionally focused maybe our sims would have some depth.

We can only hope it gets better in future patches/EPs, though. Until then I'll enjoy the CAS and building system but hold off on gameplay until it gets better. My sims are withering away with meaningless lives. And can we please have back some form of memory system.

Ive said this before as well. A combination of both. Ive mentioned in other threads that the partying thing is cool and all but gets old fast for the individuals who like story progression a family ties, me being one of them. I continue to play because the CAS as well as the graphics. Then again the sims 3 still looks great on my laptop with windows 10. I say make the sims 4 its own game and so it doesnt seem exactly the same as 3 add the things we all request but with a different twist or kick or expand more on it. Soms can multitask now use that to,the advantage. Im up-to-date with all packs on 4 and onky have a few on the sims 3 but i still feel like theres more to,do in 3. I do still appreciate 4 as well. I really hope they listen to the fans. I mean with out fans you make no,money

"jheyjuneice;14933540" wrote:
I've reinstalled my Sims 3 and been playing that a lot and boy, oh boy, is it different and I'm not just talking in the obvious graphics way. There's so much to do! I don't even have all EPs, only about 3 of them and it's made me play TS4 less and less. Now there are definite things where I'm like "I miss that we have/could do x in TS4" and that's good because that shows that TS4 at least has some progress (the CAS and build mode are brilliant, no lies) but when it boils down to gameplay ding, ding, ding, we have a winner and it's TS3! The sims aren't as empty in TS4, there's no shallow emotions and more traits, lots of job choices and so much more to do. In TS4 it's like every family lives the same life no matter how much you try to switch it up. Also you have to pay attention to needs so much more in TS4 that it just takes up all the time. It plum that TS3 really is so buggy and the graphics aren't as great, a combination of TS3 and TS4 would be golden.

Let's get on to the emotions. Oh my. I was so excited to see emotions when I started but an hour into gameplay and I very quickly preferred moodlets. I know we have moodlets but they're very emotion orientated and far too strong with their emotional boosts. For instance, as long as your house is nicely decorated your sim will always be happy. Never fine, happy. It would annoy me less if they didn't have that plum grin plastered on their face at all times. Emotions are very easy to manipulate and often pretty annoying. It's far too easy to get out of bad emotions but you often have to stick with positive ones like 'happy', 'inspired' and 'confident'. It's very predictable especially with the traits. If only the traits weren't so emotionally focused maybe our sims would have some depth.

We can only hope it gets better in future patches/EPs, though. Until then I'll enjoy the CAS and building system but hold off on gameplay until it gets better. My sims are withering away with meaningless lives. And can we please have back some form of memory system.

I think we will never see a proper memory system. If the Sim was culled then what would that do to the other Sim's memory? I guess they would fade away like in Back to the Future where Marty's family is fading away in a photograph? How would it work (it can't) asking them, not you, if I can simply delete mom or dad, what happens to the kid memory of mom and dad? See, they didn't think how important our own Sims are to us. They were thinking 'casual gamer' who likes to delete everyone, start over, drop in a copy, clone and do it again. That's not The Sims to me. That is handy I guess like when my Sim became morbidly too skinny all of a sudden for no reason I just deleted him and plopped him right back (copy) into his house. But 'I' knew it wasn't him and that bothered me. It didn't dawn on Maxis, Sims matter to us. ETA: Instead we got the avatar game.

"Cinebar;14935337" wrote:
I'm back because right now, I'm even more unhappier than I was the last time I posted in your thread. I haven't installed the patch from the 16th yet, because afraid to do so. The last one broke my walls for my houses. I don't have time to redraw those walls where my Sims live. But that seems to be the going answer but it is only a temp fix and the walls are missing as soon as your reload the game. (no mods or cc). Also, we were promised the townies wouldn't show up in other gender clothes, so far not happened but I gave up the other day when more than ten female Sims showed up on different lots with the male hair. I didn't want it to spread any further. I'm not against the patch as long at it was optional for players and their own townies, but if the game is going to generate Sims outside my power with the cross gender hair etc. then I have a real bug there, too. The bug list in my own game just keeps getting bigger, no matter how many times I reset and repair my game. It's not a good game when it is more trouble to try to fix than play. Sound familiar? I'm thinking of uninstalling again for good and just closing my account here because I liked some of TS4 but this is just getting ridiculous now at it's two years in now, and all that money spent. And I have a feeling working on three years won't see anymore depth and fun than it is now and then just more crazy bugs like missing walls.

The Gender's and clothes were said not to show up on townies, I do not think that was the case with the hair, since all the hair can now be on both sexes as well, but who knows, I hope that is not the case, If it is only the hair doing that, then I got no problem with that, nope. :)

Okay I just saw the trailer for the New Kids Pack coming out the 28th, though the items and clothes and such look okay, there is one Item that I did not see in there which won't make Me a happy camper if it is not in there, and that is The Bunk Bed's, there better be Bunk Bed's in that pack, or the whole world will hear My Scream!!!! , :( .

Bunk beds save space but so far playing generational with lots of kids doesn't appeal to me in this game. So I'll be fine with one kid in a single bed for my sims that will stay a kid forever - he'll be called Peter - and enjoy that awesome puppet theatre :# (which is something new in this game I think?)