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8 years ago
"jackjack_k;c-16316845" wrote:"@Sigzy05;c-16315552" wrote:"elelunicy;c-16314551" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16314482" wrote:
I will have to disagree that TS2 EPs weren't bigger. In FT alone there were 124 new objects, 73 new walls and floors, and of course several new hidden lots to vistit, new aspirations (more than one), new gameplay, and that isn't even counting any new hair, makeup or clothes. All sorts of items not even counted since Sims have to make them etc. TS4 EPs are very slim compared to TS2 EPs. And only cost $29.99. And new townies and NPCs just in that one EP.
124 new objects is very few for an EP. Some TS4 GPs have that many objects.
Saying there were 73 new walls & floors is extremely misleading, as floor/wall recolors of the same pattern count as separate items in TS2. Spa Day for example would have 188 new walls & floors if it counted like that.
Also TS2 expansions cost $34.99, not $29.99. After adjusting for inflation TS2 EPs are actually more expensive than TS4 EPs.
Source:
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sims-2-work-retail/1100-6145006/The Sims 2 Open for Business is rated T for Teen and retails for $34.99.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sims-2-nightlife-boogies-over-to-factory/1100-6132168/The Sims 2 Nightlife will retail for $34.99 and is rated T for Teen. It will require the original Sims 2 to play.
Most TS2 EPs were very lacking. Seasons, Pets, Bon Voyage, OFB, Apartment Life, etc. all barely have much content by today's standards.
LOL??
It's true, although Bon Voyage and Pets is debatable. They're all slightly bigger than a Sims 4 GP.
OFB, AL and Free Time are basically a GP once you take out the Life State. OFB didn't even come with a Life State as the Servo is an NPC.
Life States were often used in The Sims 2 days to stretch out content. Packs like Bon Voyage show the Sims 2 could have heaps of content as well as a new Life State.
Take away Witches from AL for example, and what's left?
No it isn't, you can play as servos.
Apartment life included aside from witches:
Apartments-
-which could be built with cheats
-allowed sims to live with other households sharing common areas and visiting each other with out loading screens
A roommate system
A social class system
Social group townies which tied with the above system
Social Class below is their descriptions by sims wiki
Spoiler
This Expansion Pack introduces new features to bring more realism of community living, Social class. From now, each lot, whether residential or community, calculates its lot class value. The value will indicate if the lot is high to low. The value is determined by the price of the furniture, the size of the lots, the number of household members, the messiness, and the values of surrounding lots.
Social Group Townies
Social Group Townies are a new kind of Townies. They are the townies who will occupy vacant apartments and become the roommates. There are 5 kinds of Social group townies, they are Socialite, Tech, Jock, Bohemian, and Gearhead. Socialites and Techies will occupy expensive apartments while Bohemians and Gearheads occupy the worst. In contrast, they determine how "rich" they are and their surroundings.
a whole new world (Belladonna cove)
a reputation system which impacted how other sims would react upon meeting your sim and could impact career performance
Life skills which were different from other skills the below were all in apartment life (again from sims wiki)
Spoiler
Fire Prevention Edit
Fire Prevention Sims with this skill are more effective at putting out fires, and are calmer when a fire actually starts. From a player's perspective, it is easier to get them to move away from the fire.
Anger Management Edit
Anger Management Reduces the chance of becoming furious with another Sim. When Sims with this skill do get furious, they may get over it faster, and the relationship damage is less.
Lifelong Happiness Edit
Lifelong Happiness When a Sim has learned this skill, his or her aspiration level will take much longer to decay.
Physiology Edit
Physiology Sims with this skill build Body skill faster, gain Fitness faster and lose it slower, and lose Energy more slowly. This skill was bugged in the initial release of Apartment Life, so that Sims who learnt it would learn Body skill instantly. The bug was fixed in the Apartment Life patch, but then broken again in Mansion and Garden Stuff. Several mods fix this bug, such as M&G Physiology Fix from Mod The Sims and alfixes mod from More Awesome Than You. These two mods conflict, so use either one of them.
Couple Counseling Edit
Couples Counseling Allows a new interaction: "Repair relationship with...". When this interaction is used, the Sim using it will start trying to fix the relationship between the two Sims who have a romantic relationship problem. If a couple is divorced, their relationship cannot be repaired. If the repairing Sim was part of a cheated relationship, the relationship cannot be repaired directly by them.
Secret networking which ties into the reputation system to an extent (link to the page explaining both)
Three new build mode features
Ceiling
Ceiling is a new minor addition. Ceilings are now visible by toggling the ceiling button on the lower left of the HUD. The ceiling can be seen by tilting the camera to the sky from the ground. Also, there is a new buy/build button, the 45 Degree View button, which easily allows viewing of the ceiling. Ceiling can be customized by adding floor tiles.
Measuring Tape Tool
This tool automatically activates itself when the player is building walls, half walls, fences, flooring, ceiling, foundations, decks, stages, wall coverings, adjusting terrain, roof, garden plots, awnings, and pools. It allows players to see exactly how long the wall segment they are building is, or how many wall coverings/floor tiles they're placing, corresponding to the grid system.
Advanced Wall Decoration
Player can press the buttons to raise or lower the position of wall-hanging decorations. In addition, a cheat, reintroduced from Pets, allows for multiple wall decorations on a section of wall - press Ctrl+Alt keys to activate while placing wall decorations.
In addition there was of course build/buy mode items and a bunch other smaller things listed below (including some stuff tied to witches)
SpoilerNew Life State: Witches
New Death: Death by Murphy Beds
New NPCs: Butlers, Landlords, High Witchs, Spectral cats, Human statues, Break dancers, and more.
New Potions: Witchbegone-E, Magically Spiced Sugar, and Enchanted Essence of Cur Tail
New Skills: Break dancing, Magic and Life skills
New Dances: Dance Kiss, Classic Dance, and Break Dance
New Meal: Gyro
New Places for WooHoo: Walk-In Closet and Helicopter
New Turn On/Turn Off: Witchiness
New Door Locks: Allow/disallow Roommate and Lot Visitor
I would argue that is plenty of other stuff and more than any GP which often only has two features a skill and one smaller world.
Want to compare their wiki pages of stuff to do?
Sims 4 parenthood
Sims 4 vampires
Sims 2 apartment life