Sims Four Live Mode is Lacking

"LiELF;c-16635974" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-16635306" wrote:

"jooxis;c-16634456" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-16634125" wrote:

(we’re completely derailing, hope it’s not a problem; this all has got nothing to do with gameplay)

I strongly disagree Sims 3’s graphics are ‘trash’. Calling it that annoys me to no end because it’s utterly over the top. On highest settings the game looks totally fine (understatement, I love taking screenshots in the game because I so often love what I see) and the lighting often is stunning as well. I understand the difference between art style and graphics, but I also understand the confusion because what’s the point in great graphics when they did such a sloppy job on some aspects like what CK213 is pointing out and the ugly legs I showed compared to the detailed legs in Sims 3? Or a ball pit with the most laughable balls in it in the history of gaming. What do I care about graphics when that’s the result?

That being said, this is not the subject of this topic. Gameplay is. I don’t understand anyone quiting a game because of graphics anyway but that’s me.

I completely agree about the gameplay. I'm not defending the Sims 4 in that regard. It will never live up to Sims 1 and 2 for me.

I'll just have to agree to disagree with everyone here about Sims 3 graphics. Of course I would quit a game that's terrible to look at. Why play a game with virtual people when I can't make them look nice? The lighting is probably the worst I've seen in a modern game (again, my job is literally making art for video games) but whatever.

So anyway, the gameplay in Sims 4 is lacking and most here agree.

I’m not even sure if we’re disagreeing about the graphics. I played Sims 3 on medium the first years (and had missed the option to smoothen the edges or what’s it called in English ;)) and that looked pretty bad. I didn’t mind back then - I also didn’t know any better I must add - but I couldn’t go back to that (play everything on highest now) so yes, looks do matter to me. The way however people keep insisting “The Sims 3 art style was certainly not its strongest quality, lol” comes across condescending to me (quoting LiELF there, not you). Because ‘lol’ I happen to really like that art style and prefer it to Sims 4’s (though I do manage to embrace and appreciate the cartoony look when playing fortunately). Besides, Sims 2’s and Sims 3’s art style are completely similar. If anything some textures in Sims 2 are even more realistic than in Sims 3. Yet the sims are not and it wasn’t a problem in that game then? The Sims 3 slating comes in inimitable ways sometimes, from my perspective obviously. I’ve never seen any strange discrepancy in the game myself anyway (nor in Sims 2). Preferring one art style doesn’t necessarily make another art style poor just because you happen to prefer it. I’d love the Sims 3 art style to return in a next iteration, with better graphics. And as for the sims, one of the reasons I can’t get into Sims 4 completely except for the game play (though really happy with how my vampire turned out, but I’m feeling so miserable about the males in the game :disappointed: ) is in fact the sims. If only people could get their head around the fact personal preference isn’t a status quo but just that, a preference. I’ve posted this comparison before and I’m convinced everyone will pick a different sim as their favourite.

https://i.imgur.com/mrOUPkb.png

But you’ll have to believe me that for me it’s most definitely the middle one ;) And he matches perfectly with his ‘ultra realistic’ (they aren’t ultra realistic at all) surroundings.

As for gameplay, I think preferences play a part there too and I’m still trying to pinpoint why exactly it isn’t working for me in Sims 4. I still think for most people it really comes down to lacking personalities. Those were superior in Sims 2. I’d love it if they could find a way to tone down the emotion system and level up the personalities.

@JoAnne65 Just popping in real quick to clarify something. My intention was not to be condescending, it was more of a playful reference to a common perspective. It would have been in the same manner as if I had said, "Sims 4's base game wasn't exactly up to par with its predecessors, lol." It's a common thing that people have remarked on, and even though I don't necessarily agree, it's still understood as an opinion shared by many. Maybe I should have included this; :p

I guess the reason it came across condescending to me, is because it’s indeed not the first time I see it presented in such a definite tone (so the feeling was rather in general than specifically directed at you). That doesn’t make it true though ;) What definitely is not true by the way (preferences and opinions aside), is the statement Sims 3 is ultra realistic. It’s just really not. The sims can be with certain CC, but in fact they look totally out of place to me in the game then because their environment is still stylized.

To bring it back to the subject by the way: I’ve noticed that when I enjoy a game, I will also find a way to embrace its art style and graphics.