Snowy Escape EP - What are you most disappointed about?

I'm glad I came here to see how everyone feels about SE. I haven't updated or bought the pack yet. I found out last night that a lot of those fixes seem to be broken, and the same problems are in the game and still require mods. But after reading everyone's posts, I can see this pack isn't worth it's price tag. At least not to me. It sounds as if the Japanese culture was given the same treatment as the Sulani culture was and I found that quite disappointing. To read about everything that could have been done with a culture that is as beautiful and complex as the Japanese culture, but was not included, breaks my heart. It certainly deserved better representation than what I am seeing so far.

Lifestyles don't seem to be as in depth as I hoped they would be or maybe I just haven't played with them enough. So far all my sims have gained mostly the same ones and all they really seem to do for my sims is give them negative moodlets. My sim gained the frequent traveler lifestyle from going on ONE single vacation and now she gets bored every few days from not going on more vacations. I'm actually considering turning them off until they're improved.

I'm disappointed that I haven't seen ANY lifestyles in my game.

"Sharonia;c-17726226" wrote:
Lifestyles don't seem to be as in depth as I hoped they would be or maybe I just haven't played with them enough. So far all my sims have gained mostly the same ones and all they really seem to do for my sims is give them negative moodlets. My sim gained the frequent traveler lifestyle from going on ONE single vacation and now she gets bored every few days from not going on more vacations. I'm actually considering turning them off until they're improved.

I guess I wasn't the only one who was surprised/disturbed to see negative moodlets after coming back from just ONE single vacation xD
I was like uhhh hey sim? Did you forget who you used to be before the vacay? LOL

"ChadSims2;c-17725976" wrote:
There's a few things that disappoint me about this pack

- The one empty set dressing neighborhood with a set dressing train station would of been fun to see Sims using it like they faked in the video
- Instant teleport ski lift its as bad as the City Living elevator
- Japanese world without any way to change it to the world I want it to be beyond the lots
- Rentals instead of giving us a hotel system

Yes, I would have preferred an hotel or both an rental and hotel.

I have 2 things I am slightly disappointed in, First, I wish sleds could be purchased and had more colors like skis and snowboards can without having to go into debug mode. Second, I wish we could hike together or even just have the option to walk together around different neighborhoods. Neither really effect my enjoyment of the game, I still think it is great and am having a blast, but they both would have been nice additions.

Yeah ok I finally went on a climbing excursion and it all went by pretty quickly, without a hitch and there wasn't that much to do or see. It was beautiful and it made for some really nice screenshots, but I feel like the trail in Selvadorada was equally as beautiful yet more interesting. At the very least, in the jungle my sims get more moodlets from getting attacked by creatures, you get those chance cards, a detour or two, and there are those small (albeit mostly inconsequential) puzzles in the temple.

I agree with everyone who said it should have been a game pack, and to be honest, when thinking of this theme, I always figured it would be.

I was most excited for the mountain excursion and the hiking. I like how the excursion is an event and a group one at that, because an issue I had with JA was how tiresome it was to bring more than one sim, but the mountain overall is not nearly as replayable as the jungle. And I think hiking at least should have been expanded to all worlds, like just to be able to make my sims go for a walk together around their neighborhood.

Sooo that's me, most disappointed about the mountain excursion. I'm not too interested in the snow sports, but I'll probably use them someday for a story or another. I like the world, though it probably won't be one of my most played ones.

Oh, and the female-styled CAS items. I LOVE the hairs, but the clothes are too old, rich lady lol. The male-styled clothing I loooove, however.

As much as I love Japan this felt like a quick cash grab and them panicking over Paralives :|

Build/buy:

• No round windows/doors.
  https://i.imgur.com/7UywAeI.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/PIqOrMY.jpg
  
• Not enough zen and bamboo furniture. The pack advertises building a sanctuary but offers very few options. I was heartily looking forward to building my dream house, which has a modern zen theme with lots of curves, nature-inspired decor, warm bamboo tones and natural rock. We didn't get a whole lot of that. Also, no wooden bath...
  https://i.imgur.com/dbdOKp6.jpg
  
• Not enough patterned wallpapers. Japanese and Chinese architecture are well-known for them, but we only got a small handful.
  https://i.imgur.com/lwlHQvj.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/kaPFhaL.jpg
  
• I know this is technically more Chinese than Japanese, but I highly doubt we'd get a Chinese pack as well. So why couldn't they add some ornate, traditional build/buy?
  https://i.imgur.com/jTMOmQm.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/voJVG1z.jpg
  
• Or some cool modern zen wallpapers.
  https://i.imgur.com/iWLIwl1.jpg
  
• Where are the futons? And if it is really THAT much effort to animate sims climbing into the bed lower to the ground, why couldn't they add some beds with traditional headboards and frames?
  

Gameplay

• Literally just adding tea gameplay would have made me happy, but the only thing they added was a non-functional tea display cabinet. I do not want to be forced to use that ugly base game tea machine here. https://i.imgur.com/VjxJiHT.jpg
  
• I'm happy that we can add koi to fountains, but I'm unhappy with the implementation. It's just a spawner. I wanted to be able to add fish I caught to ponds and fountains, and have control over which fish I put in, breed etc. I'm not even aware of any new types of koi fish in this pack. This is a huge disappointment.
  
• Even though we got "martial arts" in SV, it isn't traditional. There are so many forms of traditional martial arts, so "we don't want it to be the same" isn't an excuse.
  
• No calligraphy? No wood carving? Literally no skills pertaining to Japanese culture? There are so many amazing crafts and skills they could have added, but we got none.
  
• Japanese culture historically encouraged people to focus on one craft and master it - to be the person others go to if they need that product/service. That could have been an aspiration. Mastering only one skill and crafting all possible items would be too easy for an aspiration, but it could have tied into the fact that this mastering is a lifestyle rather than simply a hobby. Mentoring, writing skill books, making a perfect quality version of each craftable item, dedicating a certain number of hours to it etc could all have been part of it. This aspiration would also have been flexible, since numerous existing and new skills and crafts would make sense for it.
  
• Why is the zen garden purely decorative? They could have reused the raking leaves animation from Seasons. The zen gardens are boring and devoid of meaning, unless you buy Spa Day to at the very least be able to meditate there.
  

"bixters;c-17723591" wrote:
The fact that it's not a Gamepack.

I am always amazed at this.
Simmers must have extremely weird expectations for what constitutes an "expansion".