(Spoilers allowed) Tell me what you like about RoM, comparisons, plus some questions…

Here's an excellent resource to check out while you're waiting for responses to your questions.

https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/gamepacks/realmofmagic/

I can’t respond with much of a comparison to the previous games. I do have S3 Supernatural and have played it some, but not in depth.

RoM has a tier system like Vampires but instead of weaknesses Spellcasters are in danger of incurring curses from bad potions or spells. Glimmerbrook is a nice, but small, world. Not dark and foreboding like Forgotten Hollow, but still with a bit of its own personality. It matches well with HoB if you have Cottage Living. The Magic Realm, to me, is one of the most beautiful worlds created in The Sims. I love to go around and just take pictures. Only Spellcasters can go there, and the game generates Spellcasters to populate it. You can’t live there. It’s more of a training center. But I have found a way to let my Spellcaster use it as a second home.

In game, Spellcasters will only autonomously practice magic in the Realm, but can live in any world. Sometimes they will pop into a public lot on a broom, but that’s about it. Sims don’t really react much to the Magic, in my experience. In addition to the schools of Magic and alchemy, I made sure my sim also learned herbalism and wellness, as well as mixology to get a large number of potions and additional mystical skills in his inventory, so even after you’ve got the RoM skills mastered, there’s more to be accomplished. He’s almost too skilled up at this time.

Spellcaster clubs are chaos and a lot of fun! There is a pub in Glimmerbrook that can be used, and I had one actually meeting at the Magic Realm, but you can set them to meet anywhere in game.

I enjoy RoM more than Vampires, even if the tiers aren’t as challenging. To me, Spellcasters have more storyline possibilities than vampires do, but that’s just my preference.

"simgirl1010;c-18033418" wrote:
Here's an excellent resource to check out while you're waiting for responses to your questions.

https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/gamepacks/realmofmagic/

Thanks, I will check it out! Love that you help everyone with the info and twitter/other media updates, @simgirl1010 ! ??

"cyncie;c-18033420" wrote:
I can’t respond with much of a comparison to the previous games. I do have S3 Supernatural and have played it some, but not in depth.

RoM has a tier system like Vampires but instead of weaknesses Spellcasters are in danger of incurring curses from bad potions or spells. Glimmerbrook is a nice, but small, world. Not dark and foreboding like Forgotten Hollow, but still with a bit of its own personality. It matches well with HoB if you have Cottage Living. The Magic Realm, to me, is one of the most beautiful worlds created in The Sims. I love to go around and just take pictures. Only Spellcasters can go there, and the game generates Spellcasters to populate it. You can’t live there, but I’ve found a way to let my Spellcaster use it as a second home.

In game, Spellcasters will only autonomously practice magic in the Realm, but can live in any world. Sometimes they will pop into a public lot on a broom, but that’s about it. Sims don’t really react much to the Magic, in my experience. In addition to the schools of Magic and alchemy, I made sure my sim also learned herbalism and wellness, as well as mixology to get a large number of potions and additional mystical skills in his inventory, so even after you’ve got the RoM skills mastered, there’s more to be accomplished. He’s almost too skilled up at this time.

Spellcaster clubs are chaos and a lot of fun! There is a pub in Glimmerbrook that can be used, and I had one actually meeting at the Magic Realm, but you can set them to meet anywhere in game.

I enjoy RoM more than Vampires, even if the tiers aren’t as challenging. To me, Spellcasters have more storyline possibilities than vampires do, but that’s just my preference.

Awww, so families can’t go with their magical loved ones or kin! :worried:

So I guess I can treat it more like a magical academy/school then?

The rest sounds good so far. Only other aspect I don’t like is the secretive nature of it. Can spellcasters use spells within their households, then? It sounds like they can use magic on lots, if the magic clubs are able to meet anywhere?

Is the magical ability inheritable?

I love lighter-hearted occults like fairies and mermaids, so I’m glad it’s not another dark place, hehe! I have all of the expansion/game/stuff packs, so I would love more stuff to go well with Cottage Living. Make it into cozy-like fantasy to contrast with the Vampires’ world. :smile: (I love Vampires, too, though mine are more light-hearted and family-oriented/domesticated, lol.)

I don’t mind if it’s not challenging. I don’t remember the Sims 3 fairies being that challenging either. I think Sims 3 Witches had a power/magic meter that can deplete and regenerate, fire off spells that can potentially backfire on them. They had familiars, too, I believe.

Fairies were pretty easy, so it was pretty relaxing to play them.

I was planning to have families and couples with spellcasters mixed in with non-spellcaster members, so I guess I could pretend that the spellcaster members had important business/work or schoolwork at the Realm whenever they have to travel there, lol. :lol:

It's delightful. Some of the spells and potions are kind of cheaty in that they just fill a need, clean something etc., but some are really fun. Your spellcasters can live mostly as normal sims with magic as a little side hobby, or they can have magic be their main focus in life. RoM comes with its own world Glimmerbrook which feels almost like part of the Magic Realm and is where the portal to Magic Realm is located. There are quite a few obvious and less obvious ways to tie in magic to other pursuits, for example gardening and potions are nice to pursue together.

I also like the fashions, which are if not really goth then goth-adjacent, and the build/buy which includes a lot of Art Nouveau curved and ornate forms.

I don't have vampires or mermaids so can't compare them.

I haven't had any trouble getting non-spellcasters to visit the Magic Realm. If you are not born a spellcaster, you need to go there on foot (through the portal) in the first place to begin the process of becoming one. Yes, families can visit. I don't remember if I've ever brought a toddler there, but children can visit for sure.

"LatinaBunny;c-18033432" wrote:

Awww, so families can’t go with their magical loved ones or kin! :worried:

So I guess I can treat it more like a magical academy/school then?

That’s basically how it functions. I guess a sim could go to the Realm and not request to become a Spellcaster. I haven’t really played that way. In lore, the Realm is the remnants of a previous home world torn apart by a vortex. It’s beautiful and tragic at the same time. You’ll love that.

The rest sounds good so far. Only other aspect I don’t like is the secretive nature of it. Can spellcasters use spells within their households, then? It sounds like they can use magic on lots, if the magic clubs are able to meet anywhere?

Is the magical ability inheritable?

Spellcasters can cast spells anywhere by your direction. They just won’t use spells autonomously. And little Spellcaster babies even have their own cribs and can inherit Spellcaster bloodlines that affect their ability to learn magic. Children don’t actually manifest magic until their teens, though.

I love lighter-hearted occults like fairies and mermaids, so I’m glad it’s not another dark place, hehe! I have all of the expansion/game/stuff packs, so I would love more stuff to go well with Cottage Living. Make it into cozy-like fantasy to contrast with the Vampires’ world. :smile: (I love Vampires, too, though mine are more light-hearted and family-oriented/domesticated, lol.)

I don’t mind if it’s not challenging. I don’t remember the Sims 3 fairies being that challenging either. I think Sims 3 Witches had a power/magic meter that can deplete and regenerate, fire off spells that can potentially backfire on them. They had familiar, too, I believe.

Spellcasters have to watch magic charge to prevent overcharging, which can kill them. As they advance, they earn perks that offset some of the risks. There are familiars in RoM as well.

Fairies were pretty easy, so it was pretty relaxing to play them.

I was planning to have families and couples with spellcasters mixed in with non/spellcaster members, so I guess I could pretend that the spellcaster members had important business/work or schoolwork at the Realm whenever they have to travel there, lol. :lol:

Non Spellcasters are able to live in Glimmerbrook, so they can be close to the Realm that way. I think you’ll have fun with this!

It's really fun I love this pack. I like shopping in the magic world it has a Harry Potter Diagon Alley feel to it. You can buy a wand, a broom, various ingredients, spell books, study magic and duel other Sims with magic wands. It's kind of like Strangerville I rarely encounter magic unless I go there, whereas my Vampires are kind of showing up everywhere. I see the sages more often then I do the actual Glimmerbrook witches. I love Harry Potter so eventually I am going to add them, but for now I'm enjoying the premades and sages and my magic elves.

"mightysprite;c-18033436" wrote:
It's delightful. Some of the spells and potions are kind of cheaty in that they just fill a need, clean something etc., but some are really fun. Your spellcasters can live mostly as normal sims with magic as a little side hobby, or they can have magic be their main focus in life. RoM comes with its own world Glimmerbrook which feels almost like part of the Magic Realm and is where the portal to Magic Realm is located. There are quite a few obvious and less obvious ways to tie in magic to other pursuits, for example gardening and potions are nice to pursue together.

I also like the fashions, which are if not really goth then goth-adjacent, and the build/buy which includes a lot of Art Nouveau curved and ornate forms.

I don't have vampires or mermaids so can't compare them.

I haven't had any trouble getting non-spellcasters to visit the Magic Realm. If you are not born a spellcaster, you need to go there on foot (through the portal) in the first place to begin the process of becoming one. Yes, families can visit. I don't remember if I've ever brought a toddler there, but children can visit for sure.

Based on your answers and based on the bits of reading of the guide so far, it sounds like the new spellcasters are a bit of a combo of TS4 Vampires and a few of the occults from the older Sims games, like witches, fairies, and genies. (Genies could use spells to clean the house and such, and witches and fairies have different types of spells, both good and mischievous/bad. Witches could also do magic-duels in past Sims games.)

“Magic-wise”, TS4 mermaids do things like summoning rain and thunderstorms (and dolphins and fish), attempt to pull down and drown other sims, and use siren songs to provide emotional buffs/debuffs to other sims. (TS3 mermaids can summon the kraken, I think.)

So it sounds like these spellcasters are pretty similar to past occults and are a great addition to the rest of the occults of Sims 4. :smile: I hope we get fairies someday, too!

Thanks for also sharing your thoughts about the BB/CAS and world stuff, too, @mightysprite ! :smile: And thank you for letting me know that non-spellcasters can at least go through! ??

"cyncie;c-18033439" wrote:

"LatinaBunny;c-18033432" wrote:

Awww, so families can’t go with their magical loved ones or kin! :worried:

So I guess I can treat it more like a magical academy/school then?

That’s basically how it functions. I guess a sim could go to the Realm and not request to become a Spellcaster. I haven’t really played that way. In lore, the Realm is the remnants of a previous home world torn apart by a vortex. It’s beautiful and tragic at the same time. You’ll love that.

The rest sounds good so far. Only other aspect I don’t like is the secretive nature of it. Can spellcasters use spells within their households, then? It sounds like they can use magic on lots, if the magic clubs are able to meet anywhere?

Is the magical ability inheritable?

Spellcasters can cast spells anywhere by your direction. They just won’t use spells autonomously. And little Spellcaster babies even have their own cribs and can inherit Spellcaster bloodlines that affect their ability to learn magic. Children don’t actually manifest magic until their teens, though.

I love lighter-hearted occults like fairies and mermaids, so I’m glad it’s not another dark place, hehe! I have all of the expansion/game/stuff packs, so I would love more stuff to go well with Cottage Living. Make it into cozy-like fantasy to contrast with the Vampires’ world. :smile: (I love Vampires, too, though mine are more light-hearted and family-oriented/domesticated, lol.)

I don’t mind if it’s not challenging. I don’t remember the Sims 3 fairies being that challenging either. I think Sims 3 Witches had a power/magic meter that can deplete and regenerate, fire off spells that can potentially backfire on them. They had familiar, too, I believe.

Spellcasters have to watch magic charge to prevent overcharging, which can kill them. As they advance, they earn perks that offset some of the risks. There are familiars in RoM as well.

Fairies were pretty easy, so it was pretty relaxing to play them.

I was planning to have families and couples with spellcasters mixed in with non/spellcaster members, so I guess I could pretend that the spellcaster members had important business/work or schoolwork at the Realm whenever they have to travel there, lol. :lol:

Non Spellcasters are able to live in Glimmerbrook, so they can be close to the Realm that way. I think you’ll have fun with this!

Ooh, that all sounds nice! ?? I love that, like the Vampires, the spellcasters have their own bassinet design, too! :grin: I love that kind of cute detail, hehe! ?

And thanks for letting me know that non-spellcasters can live in Glimmerbrook! After seeing your post, I made a non-spellcaster couple and moved them into Glimmerbrook. First step done! Now it’s time to change one of them into a spellcaster and explore the magic realm! ? Thanks for the answers and info and sharing your experiences, @cyncla ! ?? All of the info has been very helpful and I appreciate you all for giving me your time to explain the pack to me. ? It has certainly made me excited to try out this pack, hehe!

"Elliandre;c-18033461" wrote:
It's really fun I love this pack. I like shopping in the magic world it has a Harry Potter Diagon Alley feel to it. You can buy a wand, a broom, various ingredients, spell books, study magic and duel other Sims with magic wands. It's kind of like Strangerville I rarely encounter magic unless I go there, whereas my Vampires are kind of showing up everywhere. I see the sages more often then I do the actual Glimmerbrook witches. I love Harry Potter so eventually I am going to add them, but for now I'm enjoying the premades and sages and my magic elves.

Sounds great! ?? Glad to hear about your experience!

I love Harry Potter, too! I went to the theme park that had it.

I have also been getting obsessed over a Disney Japan mobile game called Twisted Wonderland, which is basically about a magical school whose dormitories revolve around the themes of various Disney villains.

(For example, one dorm has the aesthetics and themes of Alice in Wonderland, but especially the Queen of Hearts, while another dorm revolves around Ursula the Sea Witch, and another dorm revolves around Lion King’s Scar, another revolves around Aladdin’s Jafar, etc.)

Twisted Wonderland is getting an anime version on Disney+ for later this year or next year, and an English release of the mobile game coming up on Jan 20.

I’m really excited about it, and Sims 4 (and my irl schoolwork) is keeping me busy while I wait.

RoM sounds like it will give me the ability to make some inspired characters and some of the magic I’ve been craving for! (And I will also have the spellcasters play nicely with the mermaids/mermen. I just love merfolk so much, too, hehe!)

I am just missing the fairies, but at least I am getting some of the occults I wanted! :smile: ?

Thank you for your thoughts and info, @Elliandre ! ??

"LatinaBunny;c-18033500" wrote:

Sounds great! ?? Glad to hear about your experience!

I love Harry Potter, too! I went to the theme park that had it.

I have also been getting obsessed over a Disney Japan mobile game called Twisted Wonderland, which is basically about a magical school whose dormitories revolve around the themes of various Disney villains.

(For example, one dorm has the aesthetics and themes of Alice in Wonderland, but especially the Queen of Hearts, while another dorm revolves around Ursula the Sea Witch, and another dorm revolves around Lion King’s Scar, another revolves around Aladdin’s Jafar, etc.)

Twisted Wonderland is getting an anime version on Disney+ for later this year or next year, and an English release of the mobile game coming up on Jan 20.

I’m really excited about it, and Sims 4 (and my irl schoolwork) is keeping me busy while I wait.

RoM sounds like it will give me the ability to make some inspired characters and some of the magic I’ve been craving for! (And I will also have the spellcasters play nicely with the mermaids/mermen. I just love merfolk so much, too, hehe!)

I am just missing the fairies, but at least I am getting some of the occults I wanted! :smile: ?

Thank you for your thoughts and info, @Elliandre ! ??

I really want to visit a Harry Potter theme park. I wish they had one in Canada. And I love Japan. I's one of my dreams to live there for a year, so I will check that game out, it sounds really interesting. I hope you have fun with your magic Sims I agree I think you can create a lot of great characters and stories with the occult Sims. I usually play Vampires and Spellcasters together, I never thought of Spellcasters and Mermaids I should try to come up with some stories there. I have a new mermaid Sim I created to look like Disney's Ariel I love her so much. Maybe she needs a spellcaster in her story. :smiley: And yes we really do need fairies I hope one day!!

I discovered a really nice fairy mod that uses stuff and systems from Realm of Magic and Seasons, and it really looks great! Got floating animations and pretty wings as well as some spells. (There are some dark-powered witches included in this mod set as well, but I’m not interested in that playing those, but they do come with the fairy mod set.)

If this mod can work on my computer, then I will install and create another family that has a fairy and a regular RoM spellcaster couple.

In my current vanilla game at the moment, I have one mermaid family, and another of my other families in Glimerbrook, which I plan to have a RoM spellcaster as well as a mermaid. Another family will have a vampire and maybe mermaid or human.

As you can see, I just love making supernatural families. :smile:

I made twin YA spellcasters but haven’t played them much. One has a dog, the other a cat, and they are both used as familiars, I’m glad they integrated them in the pack.

I really liked the antiquated furniture in the pack. I was disappointed there was no traditional witch hat ( I have spooky stuff, but the hat has a spider and the outfit is more clownish ). I was also disappointed that not many spellcasters show up in my magical realm. I guess I need to make more.witches, but I own all the packs and that’s probably why there are not many ( though I kept the premades ) showing up in the Magic realm.

I do like the brooms, wands, and variety of familiars. Also that there are spells and potions. I was a bit disappointed that so many potions were clones of the science career potions though. I miss the magic realm in making magic too.

I did hear that there is a possible bug in magic clubs, that they burn down places.

Glimmerbrook is a pretty world, but a bit fancier than I thought it should be, luckily cottage living has some perfect lots for witches. I like my ( few ) witches being more secretive.

I like that magic is inheritable.

Like others mentioned you can use herbalism, and wellness as good skills to integrate with witches.

Overall, I do think the pack is worth it.