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4 years ago

The Creepy, Horrifying World of Family Relations

I ran into a downright disturbing quirk of the game mechanics over the past weekend's play that proved that no matter how much EA tries to sanitize it, Sims 4 is still capable of some truly horrifying...

DaWaterRat

Seasoned Ace

4 years ago

"Kita5399;c-17972464" wrote:
"DaWaterRat;c-17972445" wrote:
"Kita5399;c-17972352" wrote:
While that situation would be inappropriate, the game doesn’t prevent it because it would restrict story lines for players. An example would be that some people like to make orphanages or apartments, and have many unrelated Sims occupy the same lot. It would be good if the player could simply add a tag, to prevent the situation you described though. I know there is an option to “adopt as caregiver” (think it’s from parenthood), but I’ve never checked to see if using that would prevent your issue from occurring.

"Adopt as Caregiver" does not prevent romantic interactions between a sim and their stepparent when the sim ages up to young adult.

Thanks for letting me know, I’ve never thought to check that. :D

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Setting the scene, I had a male sim living alone in a place that was more than big enough for his own needs with plenty of room to spare, so he took in one of his friends along with her daughter. Didn't marry the mom, just gave her a place to live.

He ended up serving as kind of a surrogate father to the kid, and when she grew up and became a young adult, the full range of romantic interactions opened up between her and the guy to whom she had effectively seen as a de facto stepfather throughout her childhood.

In the real world, the term for this is \"grooming\", and I certainly wasn't about to cross that moral line, but the mere fact that a player with fewer moral scruples could basically simulate Woody Allen's romantic life...ugh. :s

The game needs to find a way to recognize that a child who develops a close relationship with an adult when they're young—especially if they live in the same residence—should be off-limits for romantic socials when they grow up. It might be impractical considering the weird way aging can work (thanks to Potion of Youth or just aging the kid up fairly quickly as they hit the milestones of youth and clear all the aspirations), but it would lower the ick factor.","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2021-09-06T11:30:00.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:240457_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":445},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"I ran into a downright disturbing quirk of the game mechanics over the past weekend's play that proved that no matter how much EA tries to sanitize it, Sims 4 is still capable of some truly horrifying depths of human depravity in gameplay.

Setting the scene, I had a male sim living alone in a place that was more than big enough for his own needs with plenty of room to spare, so he took in one of his friends along with her daughter. Didn't marry the mom, just gave her a place to live.

He ended up serving as kind of a surrogate father to the kid, and when she grew up and became a young adult, the full range of romantic interactions opened up between her and the guy to whom she had effectively seen as a de facto stepfather throughout her childhood.

In the real world, the term for this is \"grooming\", and I certainly wasn't about to cross that moral line, but the mere fact that a player with fewer moral scruples could basically simulate Woody Allen's romantic life...ugh. :s

The game needs to find a way to recognize that a child who develops a close relationship with an adult when they're young—especially if they live in the same residence—should be off-limits for romantic socials when they grow up. It might be impractical considering the weird way aging can work (thanks to Potion of Youth or just aging the kid up fairly quickly as they hit the milestones of youth and clear all the aspirations), but it would lower the ick factor."},"Conversation:conversation:240457":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:240457","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:240457"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2021-09-09T05:09:19.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2021-09-09T05:09:19.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":19,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:240457":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:240457","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:240457_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:240457_1","lastEditTime":"2021-09-06T11:30:00.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:240466":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:240466","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:240457"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:20262"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":240466,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: The Creepy, Horrifying World of Family Relations","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:240466"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:240457"},"body":"

\"Kita5399;c-17972464\" wrote:
\"DaWaterRat;c-17972445\" wrote:
\"Kita5399;c-17972352\" wrote:
While that situation would be inappropriate, the game doesn’t prevent it because it would restrict story lines for players. An example would be that some people like to make orphanages or apartments, and have many unrelated Sims occupy the same lot. It would be good if the player could simply add a tag, to prevent the situation you described though. I know there is an option to “adopt as caregiver” (think it’s from parenthood), but I’ve never checked to see if using that would prevent your issue from occurring.

\"Adopt as Caregiver\" does not prevent romantic interactions between a sim and their stepparent when the sim ages up to young adult.

Thanks for letting me know, I’ve never thought to check that. :D

I didn't so much check as get caught off guard by autonomous interactions. :lol: They may have been mod-influenced, as I was experimenting with various emotion and autonomy mods at the time, so I don't even remember which one was 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