5 years ago

The Discover University Livestream was a dissapointment.

As the titles says this presentation of the pack was uninspiring, chaotic and boring. I was excited about the pack but because of the stream i think it looks terrible.

The Lady with the curly hair was annoying. She seemed bored and was all over the place. Did barely pay attention and got distracted way too much.
They would forget answering questions, which becomes annoying, when you consider that there was so much silence. It was really unprofessional and quiet hard to sit trough and pay attention. Awkward pauses... ''Hmm what should we show now'' questions
Really?! They litteraly didnt know what to do after one hour. A 2h Livestream like that is tiresome and i learned my lesson.

The promotion for this Uni Pack is all over the place... silence... gameplay trailer, that doesnt really show the features... no date for when the embargo lifts for the game changers... its ''on the weekend'' ... we dont know when the patch arrives...

I miss the trailers from get to work. Behind the scenes from artists that did simlish versions of theyre song, or even some ads like the stillLife trailer.

They should just do a producer walktrough that is maybe 10 minutes, highlights the features and tells the story. Does anyone remember These trailers?

An Q&A Blog about the most asked questions and leave the showcasing part up to the game changers. At this point they are doing it waaay better then the gurus themselves anyway.

I do find it irritating that you never see SimGuruFrost in the streams. Why is there litteraly someone that has to pay attention to the questions from the fast twitch community chat, when this is someting the Community Manager could do. Why isnt he the one asking the most common questions. Also why didnt they used the other room.

But at least the one in the middle was enthusiastic... even though the robotic talk got kinda annoying. I know they arent professional streamers and arent used to be live in front of 1000 of people...
At the same time one would think a billion company studio would get theyre stuff together after 5years, but okay.

So how do you feel about the Livestream and the pack presentation and what could of been improved?

ChampandGirlie
New Spectator
5 years ago
Eh, I think it's really easy to criticize other people as an "armchair critic". I'm in an unrelated field but I understand how much work goes into something like this and also what it is like to be put on the spot.

I mean, fans all have different play styles and want to see different things. It's probably easier to do a stream for a pack that just focuses on one play style, like how ROM is essentially entirely supernatural.

I thought the stream was fine. It was a little long but I had a much better idea of the content at the end. Everything? No, but if I want that then I can work through the game.

It might make sense to have more than one livestream. I don't really like calling out specific gurus too much, especially women in the tech field.

Sure, they went through the CAS/BB pretty quickly and no, not all of what was shown appealed to me. I thought it was fine though. If anything, if it were overly polished, it would seem more like marketing spin.
fruitsbasket100
New Vanguard
5 years ago
I agree.

-This is a university pack and they never once showed a single sim go to class. I know classes are rabbitholes but not a single one actually went. They didn't even show a sim taking classes from home.

-They never showed a debate and hardly focused on scholarships or anything uni related to be honest.

-They didn't talk much about the new careers either which is something I was curious about.

-They spent way too much time talking about the robots which I will maybe use once and forget about like I did with the ones from ts3 because they take up room in your household and I like to have large families.

-They went through CAS/BB way too fast.

-They didn't even show how it would work to play a sim at uni while your other sims are still at home.I guess it will work similar to rotational gameplay which i'm not a fan of.

-Also how would it work if your sim get pregnant while at uni? They mentioned that they can't live in dorms so will they be kicked out of school or will they have to move?

At this point they leave all the important features to be talked about by the game changers. Why even do a livestream if that's the case?
Writin_Reg
5 years ago
Actually I saw the male go to class and like any rabbit hole he left the dorm and then came back a little bit later. At least i thought it indicated it was time for class for him. Maybe I was wrong -
Purrloin9
5 years ago
The livestream was 2 hours of pure boredom. It just made the pack look worse to me.
simmyfroggy
5 years ago
@fruitsbasket101
One of the Sims did go to class during the stream, another one headed out but they stopped her because they were showing something else.

As for pregnancy, it won't affect the Sim's enrollment (they'll be able to stay in class) but they'll need to move out of dorms, they did answer this in the stream - I'm assuming the Sim will be prompted to move when the baby is born.

About Sims at Uni & their family/pre-Uni household, you have two (ish, because there are dorms as well as residential living) options:
- Your Sim enrolls in University and stays living at home. They'll travel to rabbit hole classes when needed, visit campus for events if you want them to (in which case it's the same as traveling with one Sim). No rotation needed there.
- Your Sim moves out to dorms (or their own residential lot) and becomes a separate household. In that case, yes, if you want to play the rest of their family too, it will need to be a rotation system.

Initially they talked about showing off CAS/BB but there were many responses from people on twitter that they wanted to see gameplay because CAS/BB will have multiple review videos from GameChangers, so I'm guessing that's why they didn't really spend time on either of those. (also there were a bunch of complaints that there was too much CAS/BB time in the RoM livestream back when they did that one).
timzed_user
5 years ago
i was annoyed by that simguru on the right spamming the llama speed button and doesn't seem to know what she was doing. but we stan a knowledgeable and irrational queen, simguruazure. and am i the only one who noticed some steam going around with this three
like they got beef or some sort? maybe that was just me.

we know that they're developers and not streamers but they could have picked up someone more professional i'd say.
NoNameGirl20
5 years ago
Great suggestions. They defenitly need a script and do their research before entering a livestream. And always always cheat the needs up.
I saw so many critisicm about the livestream on differente socials(some of them were nasty not gonna lie). I think they will change it next time, grow and learn.

I mean at the end it is was it is and i move on at this point. Won't watch a Livestream, learned my lesson. We have to see, that with every expansion pack differente gurus are working on them. Its a good idea, that we see those who were the leaders on this content in the livestream.
Maybe a Q&A Session would be enough to answer the questions and maybe share a little bit of the behind the scenes and ideas of it.

I still think Game Changers should be showcasing the content. Arent they supposed to do this anyway? I know most Game Changers are biased, but are the gurus better? I mean there are over 100 Game Changers that get early access, there will be some people who are honest and neutral.
They get to play the Game for 8hours and can always ask questions to the gurus personally. Which is why, they ask theyre audience, what they wanna know.
And even after the Game released there are non Game Changers who review the content really nice.

@ChampandGirlie

And no its not easy to critisce... for me at least. . But its something that i wanted to let it out. I often feel bad for the gurus to be honest. But this is the feedback section and we are allowed to share our concerns, and not just wash everythin off just because we arent in this job and
''dont know it better''
alanmichael1
Seasoned Hotshot
5 years ago
I think Simguru Graham should be in every stream.
DoloresGrey
Seasoned Newcomer
5 years ago
@alanmichael1 Yes. Graham is awesome and very professional.
Scobren
5 years ago
I'll never understand. Simmers want Gurus to act like Gamechangers and Gamechangers to know what SimGurus know. The whole Sims community was chaotic during that live stream and the worst displayment in chat that I've seen since joining the Sims community back in 2015. I bet that majority of people complaining about the stream being professional don't even stream themselves. Think you can do it better, prove it. Streaming is hard. Gurus aren't robots. Game Changers aren't robots. So give them a break geez. True SimGuruGraham is good at streaming, but he's had practice with non-Sims streams and I enjoy watching his channel a lot. It took a lot of trial and error on SimGuruSteve's part to even get the streams as good looking as they are now. I still struggle with streaming myself. There were so many bots and fighting during that stream, I had to rewatch it just to understand what was being said and believe me it isn't easy to ask questions while children are fighting in chat. I am just glad I didn't have to mod that chat, because I'm not as forgiving when using my ban hammer. That just was the most toxic chat I've ever seen and there was no sense of Sims community in it. It was a war zone there that makes even the League of Legend trolls look like a "safe space".