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simooon2002

5 years ago

The flop that is called The Sims 4

I've not played the sims 4 for almost 2 years now after I basically just got bored of it. I tried many times to give it one more shot but I just really didn't feel like it anymore since I found it uninteresting. Due to quarantine I have revisited it and I made some houses and played for about 2 days.

I will start this thread with some positivity by saying that I do really like build mode. It's honestly the best feature of the game and I have become quit good at it after lots of practicing whereas in the sims 3 I never even knew how to begin building. (bare in mind that I was a lot younger) Besides building cas and its graphics are also really interesting and I find it just generally fun to play around with it and create backstories while making random sims. This I missed in the sims 3 cause it just simply took me ages to make a sim and it felt more like a task than an 'entertainment'.

The sims 4 its gameplay however is a whole other story. I know this has been said many times especially since the fiasco that is called eco living was announced, but the sims 4 just lacks every single piece of depth. There's nothing interesting to do and the relationships sims have don't affect their lives that much. My sims feel more like puppets that I have to completely control than interesting characters like in the sims 3. I have to completely rely on my imagination to make my sims's lives interesting which usually ends with my sims cheating on their spouses and beginning new relationships every single time I open the game. I find this really sad cause the sims 3 had such a special place in my heart and it was really a place where I could escape for me and do all the crazy things I couldn't do in real life. I really felt connected to my sims and usually played at least 2 generations. In the sims 4 however I can honestly say that although I have played with the new generation of my sims, I've never played long enough for my first generation to pass away.

The emotion system adds nothing to the gameplay and depth besides some random cartoony interactions that I just simply do not care about.
The townies are also really really really f'ing disappointing. I loved the sims 3 townies so much and I knew almost all of their names and their backstories and spends hours on just reading them on the sims wiki site. They had so much depth and were just so iconic. Whereas the townies in the sims 4 don't have any depth. They have a written backstory that usually doesn't even reflect on their relationships and they are so poorly done. I just simply cannot understand how they can release towns with sims that have no special relationships and are no different than they were in cas. (before playing them: no skills, relationships,...)

The graphics of the worlds are beautiful but many of them are way too small for them to be fun to play in like Magnolia Promenade and DSV. I get that because all of the worlds are in every save file that the game has to keep being runnable but then again I don't find it fair for players that really wanted for ex (like me) a Hollywood themed world and that have to pay 40 (may I repeat 40!!!) bucks on a world with about 5 residential lots. If Windenburg costs the same price as the other ones, the other ones should be of the same quality. In the sims 3 I didn't like that when you moved worlds you lost all of your contacts and that you couldn't visit your old neighbourhood but then again I much preferred this system cause it gave us way more freedom. Not only did we have an open worlds (which was great) but we also got new townies with every expansion pack that we got which made the game way more interesting for me aswel. It honestly feels like you need to edit the worlds in the sims 4 completely before you can play in them since there aren't many townies and cause the townies that are there are the same boring ones that we have in every save file. If I would have to choose however I still prefer the sims 3 system with the one world. (but an interesting QUALITY one)

Regarding to these complaints I've also seen some people defend the simgurus and producers and that they're very nice people and that the sims community is really toxic for them since we only get mad and always complain without being constructive. To that I want to respond that this isn't a hate message to the producers cause I can't point my fingers at whose fault this is and I don't really care. I just care about this game being worth the money and for it to be giving us the same (if not better cause cmon it's supposed to be a newer updated version) quality as the previous games cause how it is right now isn't working. I also don't care about the simgurus being nice or whatever, I mean I wish them all the best but their personalities and they like-ability isn't why they were hired, they are hired to make the sims 4 a good game and that's the only thing we should care about. And I also really hate how they are taking the negative backlash. They are handling it as if they are stubborn 10 year olds. They're completely ignoring and not responding to most of the complaints and if they are responding to it, it's in a making-fun kinda way. They make it look like the angry sims players are some evil monsters that are out to get them and they're taking it way to personally. This isn't about you. This is about the game and with all of the dislikes on the newest trailer you could OBJECTIVELY tell that it isn't the way it should be.

I would also like to include that the sims 4 expansion packs are way to expensive for what is in them. Back in the day the sims 3 ones were about 30 bucks I think while they hade SOOOO many content in them. Get this for example: Late night had a giant open city-like world that included apartments and a hills section for the rich. There was a celebrity system (that was way better that the one from the sims 4, don't @ me), a new film career with 2 options, the directing one and the movie star one. (so basically 2 careers) Next to this they also brought in vampires (which was a bit random but okay), night life (clubs,... altho they were empty most of the times) and last but not least sooo many townies that were just so iconic and had so many depth and a real story. Take Lola Belle for instance: she's SUCH an icon and has such a fun backstory. And even Matthew Hamming had a fun backstory which made people even question his sexuality. Can you imagine this in the sims 4? Imagine even questioning the sexuality of a sims 4 character. No. You can't. They're literally puppets.
In the sims 4 we had city living that brought in the apartments (that aren't even better than in late night cause we can't edit the building or add in new apartments) and some irrelevant careers that nobody cared about. We also had get famous that added a whack celebrity system and an acting career (not even directing) that I have never played cause it simply does not work cause I can't go to the gigs. +We had Vampires that added.. well.. vampires. And honestly even though I don't really care about them I don't hate this pack cause it was nicely done and only a gamepack. (night life was added in get together so here's another feature that was divided in another pack)

I needed to get this of my chest. To finish this long thread I would like to say that even though this might sound really bitter, I am not. I simply lost hope gameplay-wise and I'm not even angry about it anymore, just disappointed and I've lost hope. See ya

garapoes
5 years ago
"TS1299;c-17500254" wrote:
The problem with the game is not the Packs really. They can create packs that would add depth and game changing. However if the base game SIMS are still lacking depth then those features will temporarily make simmers who are looking depth enjoy for a short period of time.

For me this is what I noticed. What is the point of having the most sandbox group system ever(Clubs), a great fame system, Two quality occults, a parenting and character value system, the ability to manage multiple type of business, a great university experience if all the sims in the game acts and feel the same, has no to little personality, has bipolar emotions, no memories of what happen, no drama, and no care for the people that surrounds them?

I'll be honest, I prefer Sims 4 Packs compared to Sims 3 Packs because I find them to have depth (Except Island and City Living :D ) rather than have broad of features but not are fleshed out, however what is the point of having deep features if the sims are forgettable in the firstplace?

I agree! The packs could be fine but it's that base of the game that is bad.
Freechheit
5 years ago
Sims 4 isn't perfect, but Sims 3 wasn't either. Comparing those two games can only lead to an opinion based on your experience with the games, your play style and gameplay, maybe your experience with the Sims in general, if you played Sims 1 and 2 as well. Arguing about whose opinion is right and whose is wrong is not helping. Constructive criticism is. But it's never easy to find the right words for that. :) Please keep that in mind when reading my thoughts / story.

I loved Sims 1 and Sims 2. Sims 3 was never my game. Yes, there were tons of features, but it was really buggy. Never ever has one of my sims finished university properly, all sims were stuck in front of the building - and when my sim managed to get inside, another bug occurred and he did not graduate. A whole EP was lost for me. This was really frustrating.
I also loved the World Adventures EP. But then my sim had a daughter with a ghost sim in China, the relicts on her home lot made the game crash, and this was the second pack I could not use anymore.

I installed a Cleaner Mod (nraas Overwatch), so that my game was not lagging, because random NPC Sims were stuck in the world.
I installed other mods to improve my game (I have never used mods in Sims 1 or 2). In Sims 1 and 2 I played rotationally, but that was not possible for me in Sims 3. I tried my best to deal with that and the issue that I felt kind of forced to start a new save file for some expansion packs (or to use the world that came with it). It was okay and I had fun, but boy, after Sims 4 was released I suddenly realised what I was missing.

For me, Sims 4 was like playing Sims 2, but with more features. And I loved it! I could play in one save file with all my sims rotationally again - and I was missing this so, so badly. There are issues, that need to be discussed, like lack of personality, that is true. It needs more soul. Having no ghosts, toddlers, family trees and basements in the beginning was also plumplum. I am glad that they listened to the community. (My impression is, that they are listening...)

When comparing just those two games, Sims 4 is the better game for me personally. If there will be a Sims 5, I hope they don't forget rotational gameplay.
simooon2002
5 years ago
"Freechheit;c-17500547" wrote:
Sims 4 isn't perfect, but Sims 3 wasn't either. Comparing those two games can only lead to an opinion based on your experience with the games, your play style and gameplay, maybe your experience with the Sims in general, if you played Sims 1 and 2 as well. Arguing about whose opinion is right and whose is wrong is not helping. Constructive criticism is. But it's never easy to find the right words for that. :) Please keep that in mind when reading my thoughts / story.

I loved Sims 1 and Sims 2. Sims 3 was never my game. Yes, there were tons of features, but it was really buggy. Never ever has one of my sims finished university properly, all sims were stuck in front of the building - and when my sim managed to get inside, another bug occurred and he did not graduate. A whole EP was lost for me. This was really frustrating.
I also loved the World Adventures EP. But then my sim had a daughter with a ghost sim in China, the relicts on her home lot made the game crash, and this was the second pack I could not use anymore.

I installed a Cleaner Mod (nraas Overwatch), so that my game was not lagging, because random NPC Sims were stuck in the world.
I installed other mods to improve my game (I have never used mods in Sims 1 or 2). In Sims 1 and 2 I played rotationally, but that was not possible for me in Sims 3. I tried my best to deal with that and the issue that I felt kind of forced to start a new save file for some expansion packs (or to use the world that came with it). It was okay and I had fun, but boy, after Sims 4 was released I suddenly realised what I was missing.

For me, Sims 4 was like playing Sims 2, but with more features. And I loved it! I could play in one save file with all my sims rotationally again - and I was missing this so, so badly. There are issues, that need to be discussed, like lack of personality, that is true. It needs more soul. Having no ghosts, toddlers, family trees and basements in the beginning was also plumplum. I am glad that they listened to the community. (My impression is, that they are listening...)

When comparing just those two games, Sims 4 is the better game for me personally. If there will be a Sims 5, I hope they don't forget rotational gameplay.

I completely understand and respect your opinion and I must agree that even for me the sims 3 was laggy, but so is the sims 4 sometimes. What happened to my sims a lot is that they just kept looking at their phones and smiling randomly and seemed to be completely ignoring any instructions. But I do also think that your bugs were probably due to your computer not being strong enough for the game since I only had these type of problems when playing Island Paradise. (which is universally known as really laggy)

Then again I don't understand why they even released a game without pools (and swimwear), basements, very basic jobs,... The comparison of the two will always be very personal to each simmer but even if you like the sims 4 more, I still don't think the price of the packs is fair in comparison to the content.
simooon2002
5 years ago
"SimAlexandria;c-17500328" wrote:
@simgame While I don't agree with your opinion on Sims 4, I just want to say that you don't need to worry about sounding bitter. You're allowed your opinion too and thanks for wording it so respectfully :) If everyone complained the way you do, I feel like the forum would be a much nicer place haha!

Thanks!:) I just didn't wanted to stir any drama
Freechheit
5 years ago
"simgame;c-17500596" wrote:
"Freechheit;c-17500547" wrote:
Sims 4 isn't perfect, but Sims 3 wasn't either. Comparing those two games can only lead to an opinion based on your experience with the games, your play style and gameplay, maybe your experience with the Sims in general, if you played Sims 1 and 2 as well. Arguing about whose opinion is right and whose is wrong is not helping. Constructive criticism is. But it's never easy to find the right words for that. :) Please keep that in mind when reading my thoughts / story.

I loved Sims 1 and Sims 2. Sims 3 was never my game. Yes, there were tons of features, but it was really buggy. Never ever has one of my sims finished university properly, all sims were stuck in front of the building - and when my sim managed to get inside, another bug occurred and he did not graduate. A whole EP was lost for me. This was really frustrating.
I also loved the World Adventures EP. But then my sim had a daughter with a ghost sim in China, the relicts on her home lot made the game crash, and this was the second pack I could not use anymore.

I installed a Cleaner Mod (nraas Overwatch), so that my game was not lagging, because random NPC Sims were stuck in the world.
I installed other mods to improve my game (I have never used mods in Sims 1 or 2). In Sims 1 and 2 I played rotationally, but that was not possible for me in Sims 3. I tried my best to deal with that and the issue that I felt kind of forced to start a new save file for some expansion packs (or to use the world that came with it). It was okay and I had fun, but boy, after Sims 4 was released I suddenly realised what I was missing.

For me, Sims 4 was like playing Sims 2, but with more features. And I loved it! I could play in one save file with all my sims rotationally again - and I was missing this so, so badly. There are issues, that need to be discussed, like lack of personality, that is true. It needs more soul. Having no ghosts, toddlers, family trees and basements in the beginning was also plumplum. I am glad that they listened to the community. (My impression is, that they are listening...)

When comparing just those two games, Sims 4 is the better game for me personally. If there will be a Sims 5, I hope they don't forget rotational gameplay.

I completely understand and respect your opinion and I must agree that even for me the sims 3 was laggy, but so is the sims 4 sometimes. What happened to my sims a lot is that they just kept looking at their phones and smiling randomly and seemed to be completely ignoring any instructions. But I do also think that your bugs were probably due to your computer not being strong enough for the game since I only had these type of problems when playing Island Paradise. (which is universally known as really laggy)

Then again I don't understand why they even released a game without pools (and swimwear), basements, very basic jobs,... The comparison of the two will always be very personal to each simmer but even if you like the sims 4 more, I still don't think the price of the packs is fair in comparison to the content.

Thank you. :)

My computer was not the best and it's possible, that this created the bugs. Back then, I was thinking of getting a new one. But before I could afford one, I was looking for bug solutions, and realised, that this game had severe issues that had nothing to do with my computer. For instance, the travelling system was bugged and Sims had severe routing issues in many worlds. Save files had the tendency to corrupt and as a mainly-one-save-file-rotational-player, this was a horrifying thought.

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues-PC/ISSUE-Savegame-Corruption/td-p/968290

https://sims3.crinrict.com/en/2013/03/precautions-for-university-life.html

My favorite: The Child-In-China-Issue :wink: https://forums.thesims.com/en_us/discussion/177227/sim-has-a-child-in-china

I have bugs in Sims 4, too, of course. But I never had any game breaking ones, like in Sims 3.*)
Many people loved Sims 3, never had severe bugs, could play without any mods - but I was not so lucky. :neutral:

Edit: *) Mass culling and deleting dead Sims was a severe issue for me in Sims 4. But I could use an older save file and continue my game.
SimsLovinLycan
5 years ago
Yes, TS4 has been a real mess. It started out unfinished at launch, but still full of cool features and potential to right itself and become a really good game. Unfortunately, all of the good things that the game had going for it in the beginning have been removed, nerfed, or completely left to rot while the game's flaws have been exacerbated by shallow EP's, slow rollout of supernatural elements, small worlds, and poor AI. Many people who still play are using script mods to fill in the holes and complete the code, like shoving frog DNA into the fragmented genome of a T-Rex. Now, an EP that is more what the devs themselves really wanted to make as opposed to what the players are really yearning for is bringing out the worst in some of us, while others face-palm and groan and yet others try and put on a happy face to avoid this franchise getting canceled altogether. When I started playing TS2 14 years ago, I never imagined that the series would fall so far...

"Grynn;c-17498146" wrote:
Ok, ok...

Let's get our nostalgia glasses off shall we?

Night Life was the absolute worst pack in The Sims 3, I can't think of a single feature that was done well there.

First of all, in Night Life penthouses were literally just Tombs from World Adventure, I'm using literally literally here, if you ever tried to build your own you'll know that, that's why there was only one actual apartment per building, because it's really just a regular lot with a shell around it, there's no special system there for apartments, there were no neighbors, there was just an item, the mailbox, that generated random NPCs to come and go to give the ILLUSION that people lived inside of the shell, but the NPCs didn't even make sense or were consistent.

Vampires were extremely shallow and had to be revisited later in Supernatural. To make things worse, it wasn't toned properly and over time it made it so vampires became a plague over save games, Vampire overpopulation was a nightmare.

Fame was extremely shallow and had to be revisited later in Showtime, I have no idea why you said the system was better than Get Famous, I really don't, one of the most popular mods for The Sims 3 was one that disables the Fame system.

Clubs didn't work, simply didn't, they stayed open for too little, were ALWAYS empty, and then there was elevators, dear god those freaking elevators with animations that took ages and for some reason always got stuck, by the time the elevator actually worked and your Sims got up there the club was already closing, if you were lucky and it wasn't closed already.

Feedback for Night Life was almost universally negative, trust me, it was worse than Eco Living except people only got disappointed after release because it was a theme that was done before, The Sims 3 had amazing packs, I have no idea why you chose the one pack that everybody disables in the DLC selector as an example.

Honestly...I think that's the point. I think the OP is trying to say that TS4's packs are, for the most part, so weak that even TS3's worst pack looks incredible by comparison. Really, I don't blame them. Compared to their equivalents from previous games in the franchise, many of TS4's packs feel more like prototype builds than finished products. No way to build apartment buildings with CL, C&D is "Pets" with just two species implemented instead of having the full spectrum of previous iterations, ROM magic is not as deep as it really should have been for the fourth wack at the theme, IL lacks IP's underwater exploration aspect...It's pretty sad.
simooon2002
5 years ago
"SimsLovinLycan;c-17500958" wrote:
Yes, TS4 has been a real mess. It started out unfinished at launch, but still full of cool features and potential to right itself and become a really good game. Unfortunately, all of the good things that the game had going for it in the beginning have been removed, nerfed, or completely left to rot while the game's flaws have been exacerbated by shallow EP's, slow rollout of supernatural elements, small worlds, and poor AI. Many people who still play are using script mods to fill in the holes and complete the code, like shoving frog DNA into the fragmented genome of a T-Rex. Now, an EP that is more what the devs themselves really wanted to make as opposed to what the players are really yearning for is bringing out the worst in some of us, while others face-palm and groan and yet others try and put on a happy face to avoid this franchise getting canceled altogether. When I started playing TS2 14 years ago, I never imagined that the series would fall so far...

"Grynn;c-17498146" wrote:
Ok, ok...

Let's get our nostalgia glasses off shall we?

Night Life was the absolute worst pack in The Sims 3, I can't think of a single feature that was done well there.

First of all, in Night Life penthouses were literally just Tombs from World Adventure, I'm using literally literally here, if you ever tried to build your own you'll know that, that's why there was only one actual apartment per building, because it's really just a regular lot with a shell around it, there's no special system there for apartments, there were no neighbors, there was just an item, the mailbox, that generated random NPCs to come and go to give the ILLUSION that people lived inside of the shell, but the NPCs didn't even make sense or were consistent.

Vampires were extremely shallow and had to be revisited later in Supernatural. To make things worse, it wasn't toned properly and over time it made it so vampires became a plague over save games, Vampire overpopulation was a nightmare.

Fame was extremely shallow and had to be revisited later in Showtime, I have no idea why you said the system was better than Get Famous, I really don't, one of the most popular mods for The Sims 3 was one that disables the Fame system.

Clubs didn't work, simply didn't, they stayed open for too little, were ALWAYS empty, and then there was elevators, dear god those freaking elevators with animations that took ages and for some reason always got stuck, by the time the elevator actually worked and your Sims got up there the club was already closing, if you were lucky and it wasn't closed already.

Feedback for Night Life was almost universally negative, trust me, it was worse than Eco Living except people only got disappointed after release because it was a theme that was done before, The Sims 3 had amazing packs, I have no idea why you chose the one pack that everybody disables in the DLC selector as an example.

Honestly...I think that's the point. I think the OP is trying to say that TS4's packs are, for the most part, so weak that even TS3's worst pack looks incredible by comparison. Really, I don't blame them. Compared to their equivalents from previous games in the franchise, many of TS4's packs feel more like prototype builds than finished products. No way to build apartment buildings with CL, C&D is "Pets" with just two species implemented instead of having the full spectrum of previous iterations, ROM magic is not as deep as it really should have been for the fourth wack at the theme, IL lacks IP's underwater exploration aspect...It's pretty sad.

This is really well explained tbh, thank you.
MsPigglyPooh
5 years ago
I still have mad love for the sims 2 and 3 and there are things I love about the sims 4 as well and I wouldnt be honest if I said there were things I didn't. However, there's a huge difference in gameplay in each game. I mean even when you compare the sims 2 and 3 there were things taken out of 3 that two were incredible, in my opinion.

I've come to realize, over the years, that there are things I dont like about each game and sometimes I bounce from iteration to iteration depending on my mood because not one game can completely satistfy my simming needs alone. There used to be a point in time where I thought the sims 4 would be the good from the sims 2 and 3 mashed together to make the ultimate sims game lol but then we have what we have a well it's pretty much a given what it is now and what it may continue to be until the end of its life cycle and the next iteration is released.

I've come to terms with the sims 4. But then again I've come to terms with the sims 2 and 3 and their flaws too because let's face it they all have flaws. I wouldn't necessarily call any of then flops because, as the saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We all play in our own way. Some more similar some completely different. We all like our games to be fit to our play styles and some games cater more to our own play styles than other games. I've learned to step outside my box and explore each game for what it is.

I remember back in the sims 2 where rotational play was a huge thing for me. I remember moving to the sims 3 and trying it just realize SP really messed up my families so I slowly adapted to SP and actually started to enjoy it. Then I moved on to the sims 4 and though I have yet to find a place between story progression with mods and rotational play, I am sure I will adapt to this as well. It's odd because it kind of seems like a mix of 2 and 3. 2 as in none of the families seek mates and marry and have kids on their own, but like 3 where they all age as time goes forward, if the game is left with default settings. I'm curious to see how they would add some kind of SP if that's the direction they go.

Though it's still been challenging to find the perfect groove for the sims 4 I cannot completely say it's a flop. It's not my absolute favorite and I still feel there's is much needed improvements before I would personally consider this game complete, we have come quite a bit of way in some parts of the game as time has gone. The toddlers in this version are absolutely amazing! So if something that that can be added to base game, what more can be tweaked and added to improve on the personality, emotions, relationships, etc within the game? My point is, and I do apologize for rambling and this long comment, that it's hard to really say this type of simulation game is a flop or not as there are some many playstyles. Unlike simcity, which seemed to have clearly flopped, the sims 4 seems to have maintained a base of players to be considered otherwise, but OP you have every right to feel that way. This is just my personal opinion. As I said earlier beauty I'd in the eye of the beholder. There's a reason why some simmers love this game but hate 3 or 2, love 2 but could never get into 3, love 3 but dont like 2 or 4 etc etc.
Lonewolf1044
Seasoned Spectator
5 years ago
"Idontrcall;c-17500237" wrote:
"PlayerSinger2010;c-17500025" wrote:
"Grynn;c-17498146" wrote:
Ok, ok...

Let's get our nostalgia glasses off shall we?

Night Life was the absolute worst pack in The Sims 3, I can't think of a single feature that was done well there.

First of all, in Night Life penthouses were literally just Tombs from World Adventure, I'm using literally literally here, if you ever tried to build your own you'll know that, that's why there was only one actual apartment per building, because it's really just a regular lot with a shell around it, there's no special system there for apartments, there were no neighbors, there was just an item, the mailbox, that generated random NPCs to come and go to give the ILLUSION that people lived inside of the shell, but the NPCs didn't even make sense or were consistent.

Vampires were extremely shallow and had to be revisited later in Supernatural. To make things worse, it wasn't toned properly and over time it made it so vampires became a plague over save games, Vampire overpopulation was a nightmare.

Fame was extremely shallow and had to be revisited later in Showtime, I have no idea why you said the system was better than Get Famous, I really don't, one of the most popular mods for The Sims 3 was one that disables the Fame system.

Clubs didn't work, simply didn't, they stayed open for too little, were ALWAYS empty, and then there was elevators, dear god those freaking elevators with animations that took ages and for some reason always got stuck, by the time the elevator actually worked and your Sims got up there the club was already closing, if you were lucky and it wasn't closed already.

Feedback for Night Life was almost universally negative, trust me, it was worse than Eco Living except people only got disappointed after release because it was a theme that was done before, The Sims 3 had amazing packs, I have no idea why you chose the one pack that everybody disables in the DLC selector as an example.

*claps*

Fame in TS3 is AWFUL. At least there's an "opt-out" feature in TS4. In TS3, I'm constantly having to cheat certain sims' fame levels to 0, over and over and over again. It's beyond frustrating.

Hi. There's a toggle in the options menu. I actually just turned it on this week because I'm playing a director, but for the last 2 years I didn't need a celebrity so it's been off in all my games. No celebrities at all. Ever. Anywhere.

It's located with the options for supernaturals. I don't like to play with the celebrities unless it is necessary for the game I'm playing.

Edit: I don't know about Bridgeport, maybe they show as celebrities there even if you opt out of the celebrity system. I was playing my director in Hidden Springs and don't really play Bridgeport.

Sims 3 still my choice over Sims 4 but one of the things I disliked was the attraction to fame and it just irritated me but I still enjoyed Sims 3. EA/Maxis put in an feature that there was no real way to shut it off normally and the same can be said about Sims 4 to be fair.
apotts
5 years ago
I agree with everything the OP says regarding Sims 4. An excellent and well thought out post. Bravo!

I have the same problem, I think about playing Sims 4 whenever I have time for gaming, but more often then not I change my mind and play something else instead. When I get a new pack, I will try to start up the game, but often get bored quickly. However, I did stick with the game for a couple of weeks back when the Uni pack came out, which was something.

It isn't that Sims 4 isn't a fun game, there is certainly fun to be had, but unfortunately the amount of money I have spent on Sims 4 vs the amount of fun I have had with the game makes it a poor investment. This is especially the case when I compare it to Sims 3. When I purchased a new EP for Sims 3 I knew it would expand my game a lot. The amount of fun I had with Showtime, Generations, Sims 3 Seasons and Supernatural was more than worth every penny I spent on those packs, and even though they were buggy at times I also really enjoyed Into the Future, Sims 3 University, World Adventures, and Island Paradise.
Not to mention a couple of the Sims 3 store worlds Monte Vista and Midnight Hollow were simply amazing in my opinion. Oh, and I don't recall a problem with my nightclubs in Sims 3, they always got decent crowds. So I am lucky I guess.

Of course, I know that I tend to have rose colored glasses when it come to Sims 3, and I have not forgotten, or forgiven, the huge list of still unpatched bugs which have given Sims 3 such a bad name, but really is the steadily increasing list of bugs in Sims 4 any better?

Even though I haven't touched Sims 3 in a while, I still adore Sims 3, I made so many memories with that game. Things that I still think about and laugh about today, so many times while playing Sims 3 (and also Sims 2) things would happen that I didn't expect and it would just blow my mind, and it saddens me to say that with Sims 4 I just don't get that same connection.

For example; I fondly recall the time my Sims 3 romantic superstar got caught cheating on the husband that he was crazy about. It happened when I was playing a different family, and when I switched back it was too late to avoid the divorce. I had to work for many Sim weeks to get the couple to reconcile, AS IT SHOULD BE! I could never make this type of memory in Sims 4, because Sims 4 has no consequence for cheating... for a game built off a emotions system that is sort of pitiful.