The I'm Bored Thread

"Uzone27;c-17288858" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-17288852" wrote:

"Uzone27;c-17288840" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-17288792" wrote:

"darrenfroggy;c-17287474" wrote:
@Cinebar

I don't see how aspirations only require the skills you mentioned.

Base game aspirations & skills needed (that aren't writing or painting):

Musical Genius: instrument skills (PIano, Violin, Guitar.
Public Enemy: Mischief, Programming, Handiness
Chief of Mischief: Mischief Skill
Successful Lineage: requires a skill of choice high enough to unlock the Mentoring option
Master Chef: cooking and gourmet cooking skill
Master Mixologist: cooking and mixology skill
Renaissance Sim: logic. Also: "Achieve level 8 in 6 skills "
Nerd Brain: logic, handiness
Computer Whiz: programming, video gaming, charisma
Freelance Botanist: gardening
Angling Ace: fishing
Joke Star: comedy, guitar, violin, piano, charisma
Friend of the World: charisma

So, if you're playing with the goal of maxing out achievements or reaching the top level of a career, there's still, in my opinion, plenty to do with a Sim's skills. And as @simgirl1010 said, sometimes it's fun to level up a skill just because. Like, say, a Sim you see as a nerd leveling up their logic because they love playing chess. Or a Sim maxing out their gardening skill because they like doing so. Or playing the guitar just because.

This is 2019. Sims in TS4 are supposed to be the best, smartest ever. Or at least we are told that every time. OK, lets go outside the box for a minute. Why should all Sims gain a charisma skill just because they told a joke for the first time? All Sims can level up logic ( a problem in older games, too) if there is a chess table on the lot. They are attracted to it, but shouldn't that be a trait thing? All Sims shouldn't be able to level up all skills. In older games Sims can still do this but some do this faster than others, or struggle with social skills at a slower pace, etc. It's why some pick an easier Sim to play (just ask around), but as far as TS4 is concerned, all Sims will do mean interactions, and gain skills from them, this seems to cut against the grain that those things should be reserved for a trait, and not all Sims should be able to do it, especially autonomously, and only if really, really forced by player to get them in the mood to do that if they didn't have a particular trait. TS2 and TS3 players understand this, TS3 even more so, since Sims will struggle to reach a goal and or skill if the traits aren't there. This doesn't seem to be the case in TS4, and only one reason they all behave the same way in most cases (other than the blanket filled emotional system). And whims were so overlapping and redundant they just decided to hide them instead of tune them to fit a trait and personality.

I have to say I disagree with almost all of this.
I'm a vet of all 4 titles and I'm just not seeing what you're seeing.
Yes the emotion system is a bit wonky and clouds the traits a bit...but the traits are there and working as intended.
Don't just take my word for it.
Set up a Seven toddler challenge with a family oriented Sim and try and do the same thing with a Sim that hates children....
if there's any way you could live stream that I'd love to grab some popcorn and watch the hilarity ensue. :p

Evil Sim does mean interactions then turns around and wantst to hug and or be friends with enemey. (AKA good Sim trait behavior). Is that logical? Also, good Sim (not evil) just starts doing mean introductions and interactions (AKA same as Evil). No, traits do not work in TS4. Those are two of the best examples I can give you. Both can use a voodoo doll, shouldn't the good Sim refuse or be uncomfortable using one? Yes, I think these Sims are just not that deep.

Ye I agree I've seen that as well...it's what I meant when I said the emotion system can be a bit wonky and sometimes interferes wit the traits.

Yes, but in this game the traits are so meaningless compared to older games. Though I am not blind to TS2, either, when all my Sims want to do is play chess all day or the majong table, lol, when I think they should be doing something more in line with their personality. I just think I'm sort of tired of being told four times these Sims are the smartest and most advanced, and unique personalities when honestly they have all had their flaws. But I have to say TS3 actually came pretty close to traits actually working very well for that game, but they did something silly like add Daredevil and it was nothing but text system, and no simulation to go along with it. lol Ho Hum. Twenty years and we are still waiting on the smartest, best Sims ever. lol