I can understand why some want TS4 to keep going. It's like how much I dislike Windows 10, it's ok, I guess but MS forcing everyone to get off of Windows 7, by actually adding nags into the patches, within just about every program people still use in Windows 7, is just over the top. Such as a few nags in the Media programs in Windows 7...they were supposed to be supported until the 14th. Well, they ended them early as of Dec. 31st. The nags started to pop up to move on to Windows 10. lol Also, in a few days, MS last patch in Dec., added a nice little feature that will popup soon telling people if they keep using 7 they will not be safe, yada, yada yada, each time you log into the pc. I can see how someone who enjoys TS4 would be very upset to see some programs inside their games get a nag like that and or each time they loaded it, lol, IF it said you needed to move on to TS5. lol I get it, they love it, as much as I used and enjoyed Windows 7. And I really can't blame them for not wanting to start over in a new game like I had to do with that horrible, watered down Windows 10. Less utilities, less free software by MS, less innovation, just an OS built to track the user with everything they do. All sorts of privellegs, and privacy spying, and TS5 is probably no better than the Non- OS of 10.