The reason I'll be harder on Sims than Paralives.

Makes sense to me. But I also think too many people put too high faith in Paralives as a save-all, its a small team and it'll take ages. Which is fine, but I don't think it'll turn out to be this super-amazing-ultra version of Sims anytime soon. If Im wrong, that'll be great! I'm happy to see more simulation games since I love them!

As a buyer, the only reason i can be more forgiving with one game compared to other is if it's cheaper. If it's the same price i, as a buyer, will be as hard with one game as the other. I'm sorry, but i don't really care if the team is small or if it's an indie game.

That being said i hope it is as fantastic as it is being marketed. But i did read on their page that they're not going to include some stuff that i find weird that is not being included in a sims game as of now, like third person view... well, let's just wait and give them time to work peacefully...

"telmarina;c-17563859" wrote:
As a buyer, the only reason i can be more forgiving with one game compared to other is if it's cheaper. If it's the same price i, as a buyer, will be as hard with one game as the other. I'm sorry, but i don't really care if the team is small or if it's an indie game.

That being said i hope it is as fantastic as it is being marketed. But i did read on their page that they're not going to include some stuff that i find weird that is not being included in a sims game as of now, like third person view... well, let's just wait and give them time to work peacefully...

I agree with this. I'm waiting to see the price. If the game is not as good and leaves a lot out, that's understandable with a smaller team, but also means it shouldn't cost as much (and they have less employees to pay and less expenses as well so it should be cheaper)

But yeah, we'll see. So far from what I've seen I'm sorta "meh" if I like it or not. Some stuff looks great, other stuff not so great, which is fine if it doesn't come with the same price tag as Sims 4.

"Horrorgirl6;d-976749" wrote:
The reason I'm going to be less hard, and more forgiving on Paralives.Is because the Paralives team is small, and it's new.Why the sims team is not small, has more funds.The franchise is 20 years.And I think the reason why people are hard on Sims 4,and franchise.Is because it has been 20 years.It feels the game hasn't made the progress for 20 years old

For me EA/Maxis threw in the towel and failed to tweak the game in an timely period and instead of adding new with old, they cut everything. Also they saw an way to make more money by selling neighborhoods instead of allowing the end user to create their own. Now one has to wait months for some space. I can't seriously say Sims 4 has an total technical edge when it does not over it predecessors as the tech in Sims 3 was ahead of it's time and 32 bit Imho was not the best to play Sims 3 in and also Devs missteps in programming it. Most of Sims 4 packs are hit and miss for me.

I'm planning on trying Paralives, because I like simulation games. I'll watch for the price point and might wait awhile after release, it depends on what has my interest at the time really. I'll also want to see if they plan DLC... if it's going to copy the Sims in that way or I get that impression that that is coming I'll wait much longer to buy because at this point the art style still isn't grabbing me and I'm not a builder.
I don't need to be forgiving or talk it down at all. I'm sure they will get my money eventually. I'm not going to cry over a miss spent 20-60 bucks even if I don't like it but chose to buy. Probably if it's over 40 I'll wait for a sale unless people that I know and usually agree with are raving about it.

Paralives will do just fine over on Steam. It will depend on whether Maxis gets all the newbie players and or if Paralives captures them over on Steam, once the game is ready. EA/Maxis is going to require you install Origin even if you use Steam to play TS4. And TS5 might just be a console game for PS5 at release. I read that many players old and new like Steam and don't like Origin. Now, which game would attract new players more if many more people like Steam better than Origin? I can see that maybe Paralives has a better chance of getting brand new players new to a life simulator than an established company that makes you install both downloader systems, and has a sketchy reputation of not building games that are problem free.

I'm harder on this series because I know Maxis can do better than they did with TS3 or TS4 as far as bugs and ideas and actually sticking to the roots of The Sims. Both games had great ideas, but implementation of those ideas seem to me not to be up to snuff with what Maxis did with TS1 and or TS2, both later games seem to be riddled with more bugs, flaws and just not thinking about and or fleshing out features. And though I don't love TS3 it was a huge game after TS2 and the right way to go I suppose, with open worlds and CASt, but because of those things players lost a lot of the nuance of The Sims personalties and or animations etc.
TS4 doesn't have any excuse of why it should be flawed and or lack animations and or interactions and or fully fleshed out gameplay when it's a closed world system and tiny 'worlds' ten times smaller than any 'world' in TS2. So, yeah, it hasn't lived up to all that was promised. Paralives might be a passing interest but if they can gain new players from Steam I suspect it will do just fine.

"StrawberryYogurt;c-17528291" wrote:
Makes sense to me. But I also think too many people put too high faith in Paralives as a save-all, its a small team and it'll take ages. Which is fine, but I don't think it'll turn out to be this super-amazing-ultra version of Sims anytime soon. If Im wrong, that'll be great! I'm happy to see more simulation games since I love them!

me to the more the better

Really at this point everything they have done puts Sims 4 to shame the customization on creating lots and objects being able to put names on grave stones and Christmas stockings is amazing color wheel and so on for me its hard to be hard on something in early development that's putting in the work and everything being done right. Even the latest from going from day to night with details like crickets chirping everything is so detailed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUQjMVxwYbU

I just hope Paralives can compete. The Sims can use some healthy competition. The Sims is a very niche game but has appeal across all age groups which is really why it does well. I think the competition will force them to make a better game or people will just move on to Paralives.

I do have some concerns because EA is pretty cold-hearted. They don't have a problem getting rid of games...just look at Sims city and shelved Mass Effect. If Paralives takes the players, I wouldn't be surprised if EA just stopped making more Sims iterations.

I so want Sims 4 to have competition as well, because they need to step up their game & seriously start improving the game with better ideas & themes.