Simmers, classes will be starting soon in The Sims™ 4 Discover University Expansion Pack*! To get prepared, let's take a quick tour of the University of Britechester and Foxbury Institute and find out what collegiate life is really all about!
"TheIntrovertSimmer;c-17301292" wrote: @mika i have to agree, i don't want this pack to focused mainly on classes and lectures, i need more mature drama too, plus, i actually find the trailer entertaining or what not.
however, the only reason why some people complain about TS4's young demographic is cebause of the game being dumbed-down, simple, shallow, at too cartoony. simple as that.
I get that. But there's nothing that'll change about it. Time to find enjoyment in it or just move on. I still enjoy TS4 and what it's packs offer, but a lot of people on the forums are wasting their time writing think pieces and still paying for a game they hate. Couldn't be me.
I've said it before and it applies here too, there's a whole middle ground missing. It's entirely possible for EA to have new simmers in their teens and us older folks too. TS2 and TS3 did it and made content to target us all. They could for example include all the social media options but have less emphasis on it. I do feel like they're pushing the older group out. Sure the younger groups have disposable income, for now. When they move out of their parent's house they sure won't! Us older simmers also have money too, after being established and budgeting for a few years, promotions etc, so it's not like we don't have money to burn either. ;)
@Paigeisin5 I find the information about your grand daughter's gaming habits interesting also. I assumed this was the age group that kind of marketing was meant for. I'm sure some are, but like you, I'm curious to know where they did their market research then.
It may seem odd to some how their marketing works, or their targeting, but its definitely working for them. Or else Sims 4 wouldn't still be around - with more years planned. Money-grabbing as the company is, they will obviously aim for the most profitable target, and right now, it's not the older players (since most of them are not sastified with the game). You may not see this audience around mainly because you're most likely to search for communities where you fit in. I'm not a defender of Sims 4, on the contrary. But also I'm not delusional.
"mrkingv;c-17301339" wrote: It may seem odd to some how their marketing works, or their targeting, but its definitely working for them. Or else Sims 4 wouldn't still be around - with more years planned. Money-grabbing as the company is, they will obviously aim for the most profitable target, and right now, it's not the older players (since most of them are not sastified with the game). You may not see this audience around mainly because you're most likely to search for communities where you fit in.
Finally someone gets it, thank you!!! Even if some of the devs care, their bosses don't. And their bosses are in charge of their paychecks. Money is legit all that matters to all of these companies. Only the newbie indie developers are somewhat concerned with appealing to an overarching audience. But that all changes once they get big too. Seen it with my friend's husband who was one of the first developers for Telltale Games (RIP to them)
"mrkingv;c-17301339" wrote: It may seem odd to some how their marketing works, or their targeting, but its definitely working for them. Or else Sims 4 wouldn't still be around - with more years planned. Money-grabbing as the company is, they will obviously aim for the most profitable target, and right now, it's not the older players (since most of them are not sastified with the game). You may not see this audience around mainly because you're most likely to search for communities where you fit in. I'm not a defender of Sims 4, on the contrary. But also I'm not delusional.
exactly, if i were some video game company or somthin, i would do that, i mean it'd be healthy for my business a'ight. but i'll not be forgetting them folks who've been always with me from the start. thank u for coming to my ted talk
@Camkat I've been wondering about that for five years, too. LOL When Christmas rolls around there won't be any Sims4 packs on anyone's wishlist this year. That's a first in my house. The granddaughters are content with the updates. I think the last packs I bought for any of them were Seasons and Cats and Dogs. It's too bad EA can't find the middle ground where everyone gets something they want in a new pack. I don't hate Sims4. My only wish is for it to be a better game before it ends. I play this game for hours, but I play a lot of other games as well. If I really hated Sims4 I wouldn't bother coming in here and speaking up at all. I'd just leave and wait for Sims5. But it's nice to come here and discuss the game with players who have been with the franchise for years, and know what I'm talking about. LOL And I have no idea how much I have spent over the years on this game. Between myself, kids, grandkids, friends....it has to be in the thousands after twenty years. But it was money well-spent. I have had thousands of hours of fun in return. And that is priceless.
"Dannydanbo;c-17300617" wrote: Wow! I'm glad everyone else has pretty much expressed my thoughts because I have no words. But I am impressed that they made a gameplay trailer with no gameplay in it. Congrats devs. Did anyone notice what was missing from the trailer? No one was riding a bicycle, anywhere. I saw one leaning against the house, but that's it.
I hope everyone realizes that they have gotten better at making nothing look like something. There are no sports but you can join a sports club and everyone can kick a soccer ball by themselves together.
And while the secret society looks good in their robes and masks, why are they in another hidden world (and they told us that not enough players use the two hidden ones we already have) or is it one of the ones we already have? Doesn't matter because a secret society should meet in a hidden room in the basement or attic plotting how to take over the world. So what's with the magic stuff and being "Blessed"?
And someone (young apparently) please tell me what "Julia is a whole mood" means. Is that another silly phrase like "It made me feel a certain way"? Of course you felt a certain way, you're alive and thinking and breathing. You feel all day long, every day. Great, now I'm a whole mood.
It's good to see the cafeteria but unless it can be used outside of the pack in the real world, it might as well be a bicycle.
I do give the devs credit for one thing. Anyone remember a teacher telling a kid (or you :D ) that if you put as much effort into actually studying as you do into trying to get out of studying, you'd be class valedictorian? Devs, you could be class valedictorian.
I didnt even realize that the cafeteria was there at the end :o
I'm glad that's there. I was hoping there would be or have that guy who cooks for you like in sims 2 university.
Also "Julia is a whole mood" in this context meant that they found her character to be very relatable. It's kinda hard to explain. Youth slang doesn't always make sense.
I know I'm old and there's things the youth of today say and do that I just don't get but, it seems at odds to create a trailer for a university EP for our sims to seek higher learning and have Julia talk as if she too cool to talk like the adult she is trying to be. I highly doubt that a lawyer speaks like she did and if my kids teacher did, I'd find a way to home school them. :D
Did you use the slang of your day when working in official capacities at your place of employment?
"OneAdorkableGirl;c-17300087" wrote: The trailer was cute and made me laugh a few times. Loved the reactions at the end with her two friends. Love that there are loans and you can lose scholarships if you miss too many lectures/classes, or are failing(?), and while I'm not sure .. if you can "bring" your toddlers to college with you.. maybe you *can* get pregnant and have the baby there while going to college (?), or maybe it is that you can bring them. So, that's interesting and *new*.
However, :( I'm not gonna lie.. I'm a little bummed. This is definitely looking like we're not getting Sorority Houses and Frats. Not sure how I feel about "dorms". I don't really like apartments and haven't had any of my Sims live in one, yet.. so hopefully Sims can live at home and go to college.. I know we can move off campus, but was hoping for a sorority and frat system/experience. As I would have loved more group activities (aside from studying, etc).
I'm not fussed about the lack of Greek houses. They're mostly an American thing, and not even all American schools have them (my daughter's doesn't, and it's a large state university in a very large city.) Clubs may not be an ideal solution to substitute in, but it should be a workable one.
Didn't learn a lot new from the trailer, but did get a fair amount of confirmation. It is nice to know you can transfer schools between the two, and it was kinda fun seeing the toddler there.
Hopefully the livestream expands a bit more on what we saw. I've shifted from "Maybe, if it doesn't mess up my gameplay otherwise" to "Eventually... when the pack is on sale" so that's something.
I understand completely that others may not want them. It's not a deal breaker that we don't have them. I'm just a little sad about it, because I really want more activities for Sims to do together, some activities that could shape their personalities more. I definitely liked the off campus house we saw in the trailer, so I'll be okay with that, as long as the game-play is filling and we get a lot of stuff that can add some personality to our young adults into adulthood. If that makes sense. :/
Really hoping the next expansion pack adds a system for "wants/fears" or hobbies, (likes/dislikes) type of systems doesn't have to be the full focus of the pack.. but something to give them some more depth.
One thing I didn't like about the trailer -- the suggestion that teaching is a career where you have lots of time to party. Not true. I've taught at the college level and have friends and family who teach high school and middle school. Teaching is a very rewarding career with many benefits, but lots of free time isn't one of them. I spent my weekends and evenings grading papers, as did most of my colleagues.
"MVWdeZT;c-17301430" wrote: One thing I didn't like about the trailer -- the suggestion that teaching is a career where you have lots of time to party. Not true. I've taught at the college level and have friends and family who teach high school and middle school. Teaching is a very rewarding career with many benefits, but lots of free time isn't one of them. I spent my weekends and evenings grading papers, as did most of my colleagues.
Can confirm. Though I took the trailer portrayal of it as one of someone who has ideals about said career while not knowing much about the reality of it. Which people do if they've not been around teachers in their families. If I had a Euro for every time I heard "but teachers get so much time off"... (several friends and family members were/are teachers. time off for them is a distant dream)