the sims 5 in 2019?!

The Sims gurus and EA have stated that The Sims 5 is entirely dependent on how well The Sims 4 (and its add-ons) sold, and so far, it isn't doing anywhere near as well as its 3 predecessors for myriad reasons (not finished at launch, boring to play, unfixed bugs, etc.). There may not be another The Sims, based on sales of The Sims 4. The trademarked name, The Sims 5, has been purchased, but that means nothing. If EA decides this is the end for The Sims franchise, then that will be that. With this being the longest running iteration of the game thus far, I'd say they may just keep putting out a bit of content for TS4 for awhile, and you will never see a TS5.

"Armilus616;c-16922879" wrote:
It was really annoying having to wait two hours and sometimes more for the game to start.
What I did was click on the game and go AFK after that, buying some food or doing some chores or watching a movie or reading a bit before returning to the game ready to play. That way, I at least wasn't sitting in front of the screen getting bored forever.

Sounds like a computer problem to me. The only time I had to wait that long to load was in TS2 because you had to download recolors for every object, making your CC file enormous. To this day TS3 loads in maybe 5 minutes. TS2 (which I don't even have installed anymore) took hours. Of course, I refuse to play games on laptop (I don't care what anybody says, they're NOT built for gaming), and have a pretty beefy desktop computer. I will say that with every add-on to TS3 you needed more memory because it had a horrendous memory leak that would eventually suck up all CPU time, and crash the game, but it took hours of play to get to that point.

"HeidiGrrrl;c-16923007" wrote:
The Sims gurus and EA have stated that The Sims 5 is entirely dependent on how well The Sims 4 (and its add-ons) sold, and so far, it isn't doing anywhere near as well as its 3 predecessors for myriad reasons (not finished at launch, boring to play, unfixed bugs, etc.). There may not be another The Sims, based on sales of The Sims 4. The trademarked name, The Sims 5, has been purchased, but that means nothing. If EA decides this is the end for The Sims franchise, then that will be that. With this being the longest running iteration of the game thus far, I'd say they may just keep putting out a bit of content for TS4 for awhile, and you will never see a TS5.

While I wouldn't be mad in the slightest if Sims 5 never came, I highly doubt that Sims 4 is doing that bad.
I don't know anything about the US sales, but Sims 4 was the top-selling game in Germany in 2018 and in Switzerland, it has been Nr 1. best selling game constantly every month almost since release.
With sales like that in Germany and Switzerland, it can't be that much of a financial disaster.

"Armilus616;c-16923017" wrote:

"HeidiGrrrl;c-16923007" wrote:
The Sims gurus and EA have stated that The Sims 5 is entirely dependent on how well The Sims 4 (and its add-ons) sold, and so far, it isn't doing anywhere near as well as its 3 predecessors for myriad reasons (not finished at launch, boring to play, unfixed bugs, etc.). There may not be another The Sims, based on sales of The Sims 4. The trademarked name, The Sims 5, has been purchased, but that means nothing. If EA decides this is the end for The Sims franchise, then that will be that. With this being the longest running iteration of the game thus far, I'd say they may just keep putting out a bit of content for TS4 for awhile, and you will never see a TS5.

While I wouldn't be mad in the slightest if Sims 5 never came, I highly doubt that Sims 4 is doing that bad.
I don't know anything about the US sales, but Sims 4 was the top-selling game in Germany in 2018 and in Switzerland, it has been Nr 1. best selling game constantly every month almost since release.
With sales like that in Germany and Switzerland, it can't be that much of a financial disaster.

My question is where people get the sales information from anyways. From what I understand no solid sales information was ever released besides vague statements like "Cats and Dogs is the best selling EP to date," but besides that there was never any information given out to come to the conclusion that the Sims 4 is a financial failure comparing it to the previous games. What we can say for sure is that Sims 4 is an evolving game specifically with its player base, taking into account that a statement was released around the release of Cats and Dogs saying the player base grew around 35% since the games initial release.
Source: https://simsvip.com/2018/01/30/ea-earnings-call-sims-4-delivered-highest-performing-ep-quarter/

A growing player base likely means growing sales, meaning Sims 4 is profitable enough for them to continue developing for the game for a couple more years, possibly more. This is just speculation of course but it's the only reasonable conclusion I come to regarding these statements. To add on to this whole sales topic, back in 2016 some other vague statements by some of the gurus suggest that the Sims 4 has sold approximately five million copies, but was also the best selling game of 2014 and 2015 according to the ESA, closing in on Sims 2 and 3 lifetime sales in just two years of its initial release, Sims 2 selling about six million copies during its development, and Sims 3 closer to eight million sales respectively.
Source: https://simsvip.com/2016/06/12/sims-4-base-game-breaks-5-million-copies-sold/

So if what @Armilus616 is saying is true regarding Sims 4 sales impacting a possible Sims 5, then from what my understanding of the information we have available, Sims 5 is for sure to come at some point in the future, but I doubt it will come anytime soon, considering they have content planned for the next couple years, again, if not more.

Sims 5 should have open world and create a style. I could care less about open world myself, but I know im not in the majority. But I have to have create a style in Sims 5...or....I will absolutely not buy it. Because I can already have those same limitations in Sims 4. There will literally be no reason for me to "upgrade" to a new base game without the ability to change colors & patterns of furniture/objects/wallpapers/hair/eyes. If it could be done in 2009, it should certainly be done for Sims 5. I cant truly express my creativity in build mode, without createAStyle!!!

Having said that, I am not anticipating sims 5. I enjoy Sims 4 enough to keep me busy.

"filipomel;c-16923074" wrote:

"Armilus616;c-16923017" wrote:

"HeidiGrrrl;c-16923007" wrote:
The Sims gurus and EA have stated that The Sims 5 is entirely dependent on how well The Sims 4 (and its add-ons) sold, and so far, it isn't doing anywhere near as well as its 3 predecessors for myriad reasons (not finished at launch, boring to play, unfixed bugs, etc.). There may not be another The Sims, based on sales of The Sims 4. The trademarked name, The Sims 5, has been purchased, but that means nothing. If EA decides this is the end for The Sims franchise, then that will be that. With this being the longest running iteration of the game thus far, I'd say they may just keep putting out a bit of content for TS4 for awhile, and you will never see a TS5.

While I wouldn't be mad in the slightest if Sims 5 never came, I highly doubt that Sims 4 is doing that bad.
I don't know anything about the US sales, but Sims 4 was the top-selling game in Germany in 2018 and in Switzerland, it has been Nr 1. best selling game constantly every month almost since release.
With sales like that in Germany and Switzerland, it can't be that much of a financial disaster.

My question is where people get the sales information from anyways. From what I understand no solid sales information was ever released besides vague statements like "Cats and Dogs is the best selling EP to date," but besides that there was never any information given out to come to the conclusion that the Sims 4 is a financial failure comparing it to the previous games. What we can say for sure is that Sims 4 is an evolving game specifically with its player base, taking into account that a statement was released around the release of Cats and Dogs saying the player base grew around 35% since the games initial release.
Source: https://simsvip.com/2018/01/30/ea-earnings-call-sims-4-delivered-highest-performing-ep-quarter/

A growing player base likely means growing sales, meaning Sims 4 is profitable enough for them to continue developing for the game for a couple more years, possibly more. This is just speculation of course but it's the only reasonable conclusion I come to regarding these statements. To add on to this whole sales topic, back in 2016 some other vague statements by some of the gurus suggest that the Sims 4 has sold approximately five million copies, but was also the best selling game of 2014 and 2015 according to the ESA, closing in on Sims 2 and 3 lifetime sales in just two years of its initial release, Sims 2 selling about six million copies during its development, and Sims 3 closer to eight million sales respectively.
Source: https://simsvip.com/2016/06/12/sims-4-base-game-breaks-5-million-copies-sold/

So if what @Armilus616 is saying is true regarding Sims 4 sales impacting a possible Sims 5, then from what my understanding of the information we have available, Sims 5 is for sure to come at some point in the future, but I doubt it will come anytime soon, considering they have content planned for the next couple years, again, if not more.

Information about Sims 4 being the top selling game in 2018 in Germany was in a German gaming magazine.
And in Switzerland, some stores have top ten lists of what games or movies are currently selling the best. You might think that it would be for the specific store, but the charts are identical across stores, even when run by entirely different companies.
Since Sims 4 came out (Well, it took a few weeks to get there, but once it got there, it stayed) it has been consistently at the Nr.1 spot in this top 10 chart. Never once dropped, not even during releases of big, overhyped games. At least not that I noticed.
I assume that every time a DLC for Sims 4 is bought, it counts as a purchase of Sims 4 in that system of counting, but still.

Information like that, if I may add, I believe to be more relieable that a tweet from a SimGuru.

"ariasunshine;d-954426" wrote:
i am curious if the sims 5 is in development and where or if i can get any further information reguarding this...

I hope it is and I hope to hear any news from EA not just rumor and speculations regarding the Sims 5. There will be Sims 5, that's I am sure, but when it will be ? That's the thing that I want to find out. :)

"Armilus616;c-16922746" wrote:

"stilljustme2;c-16921638" wrote:
Great insight @Pegasys -- as I've said, the base game wasn't really complete until we got toddlers in January 2017, so the game was in a bit of "arrested development" until those were patched in. At the bare minimum we need University and more supernaturals (preferably witches but I know others have their fans as well). Other packs have been suggested as well -- farming, "off the grid" ecoliving, superheroes, etc. We could see continued upgrades in some of the base game features, for example when they patched photography skill and cameras into the base game instead of being GTW only.

Sims at its heart has been in general a casual game -- by casual I mean noncompetitive; you're not trying to make it to the top of a leaderboard against other players. It's up to the player to determine what packs their computer can handle and what they can't. EA could set the requirements really high and alienate much of their fan base -- or they can keep them within range of most computer specs but warn there might be performance issues the more packs you add. Lack of open world and CASt might be related to that performance issue.

Sims 3's open world and CaSt are confirmed to be responsible for over 90% of all the Problems Sims 3 had, including lag, crashes, long loading screens. (Never read about less than 5 minutes. When I had it installed, I had to wait a solid 2 hours just to enter the game. From what I read so far on feedback, 15-20 minutes of loading screen is what you could expect on average.)
That was also the reason why they didn't do it in Sims 4.
If Sims 5 was to re-introduce that again, avoiding the problems Sims 3 had, I agree that we'll have to wait at least another 5 years so technology can catch up to what the game needs to be able to do.
A lot of people talk like Sims 4 was released with all the sims having a bladder need, but no toilets, so sims have to constantly pee themselves and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Or if those "Missing pieces of content" were just as basic and important. Some wait for the "Toilet patch", others think that it is confirmed that it won't come and want Sims 5 because they hope that it will have "Toilets".

A 2 hour wait to enter TS3 means there was a mod problem. It's unfortunate that TS3 is often blamed for issues that were caused by mods. If not mods, there was something seriously wrong with that computer.

The longest wait I remember was about 20-40 minutes. I didn't realize for months that it was my mods. And sometimes a save would get so corrupted from the mods that even removing them didn't help much.

"IceyJ;c-16924002" wrote:

"Armilus616;c-16922746" wrote:

"stilljustme2;c-16921638" wrote:
Great insight @Pegasys -- as I've said, the base game wasn't really complete until we got toddlers in January 2017, so the game was in a bit of "arrested development" until those were patched in. At the bare minimum we need University and more supernaturals (preferably witches but I know others have their fans as well). Other packs have been suggested as well -- farming, "off the grid" ecoliving, superheroes, etc. We could see continued upgrades in some of the base game features, for example when they patched photography skill and cameras into the base game instead of being GTW only.

Sims at its heart has been in general a casual game -- by casual I mean noncompetitive; you're not trying to make it to the top of a leaderboard against other players. It's up to the player to determine what packs their computer can handle and what they can't. EA could set the requirements really high and alienate much of their fan base -- or they can keep them within range of most computer specs but warn there might be performance issues the more packs you add. Lack of open world and CASt might be related to that performance issue.

Sims 3's open world and CaSt are confirmed to be responsible for over 90% of all the Problems Sims 3 had, including lag, crashes, long loading screens. (Never read about less than 5 minutes. When I had it installed, I had to wait a solid 2 hours just to enter the game. From what I read so far on feedback, 15-20 minutes of loading screen is what you could expect on average.)
That was also the reason why they didn't do it in Sims 4.
If Sims 5 was to re-introduce that again, avoiding the problems Sims 3 had, I agree that we'll have to wait at least another 5 years so technology can catch up to what the game needs to be able to do.
A lot of people talk like Sims 4 was released with all the sims having a bladder need, but no toilets, so sims have to constantly pee themselves and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Or if those "Missing pieces of content" were just as basic and important. Some wait for the "Toilet patch", others think that it is confirmed that it won't come and want Sims 5 because they hope that it will have "Toilets".

A 2 hour wait to enter TS3 means there was a mod problem. It's unfortunate that TS3 is often blamed for issues that were caused by mods. If not mods, there was something seriously wrong with that computer.

That is possible. I can't check as I don't have that computer anymore.

"Armilus616;c-16923488" wrote:

"filipomel;c-16923074" wrote:

"Armilus616;c-16923017" wrote:

"HeidiGrrrl;c-16923007" wrote:
The Sims gurus and EA have stated that The Sims 5 is entirely dependent on how well The Sims 4 (and its add-ons) sold, and so far, it isn't doing anywhere near as well as its 3 predecessors for myriad reasons (not finished at launch, boring to play, unfixed bugs, etc.). There may not be another The Sims, based on sales of The Sims 4. The trademarked name, The Sims 5, has been purchased, but that means nothing. If EA decides this is the end for The Sims franchise, then that will be that. With this being the longest running iteration of the game thus far, I'd say they may just keep putting out a bit of content for TS4 for awhile, and you will never see a TS5.

While I wouldn't be mad in the slightest if Sims 5 never came, I highly doubt that Sims 4 is doing that bad.
I don't know anything about the US sales, but Sims 4 was the top-selling game in Germany in 2018 and in Switzerland, it has been Nr 1. best selling game constantly every month almost since release.
With sales like that in Germany and Switzerland, it can't be that much of a financial disaster.

My question is where people get the sales information from anyways. From what I understand no solid sales information was ever released besides vague statements like "Cats and Dogs is the best selling EP to date," but besides that there was never any information given out to come to the conclusion that the Sims 4 is a financial failure comparing it to the previous games. What we can say for sure is that Sims 4 is an evolving game specifically with its player base, taking into account that a statement was released around the release of Cats and Dogs saying the player base grew around 35% since the games initial release.
Source: https://simsvip.com/2018/01/30/ea-earnings-call-sims-4-delivered-highest-performing-ep-quarter/

A growing player base likely means growing sales, meaning Sims 4 is profitable enough for them to continue developing for the game for a couple more years, possibly more. This is just speculation of course but it's the only reasonable conclusion I come to regarding these statements. To add on to this whole sales topic, back in 2016 some other vague statements by some of the gurus suggest that the Sims 4 has sold approximately five million copies, but was also the best selling game of 2014 and 2015 according to the ESA, closing in on Sims 2 and 3 lifetime sales in just two years of its initial release, Sims 2 selling about six million copies during its development, and Sims 3 closer to eight million sales respectively.
Source: https://simsvip.com/2016/06/12/sims-4-base-game-breaks-5-million-copies-sold/

So if what @Armilus616 is saying is true regarding Sims 4 sales impacting a possible Sims 5, then from what my understanding of the information we have available, Sims 5 is for sure to come at some point in the future, but I doubt it will come anytime soon, considering they have content planned for the next couple years, again, if not more.

Information about Sims 4 being the top selling game in 2018 in Germany was in a German gaming magazine.
And in Switzerland, some stores have top ten lists of what games or movies are currently selling the best. You might think that it would be for the specific store, but the charts are identical across stores, even when run by entirely different companies.
Since Sims 4 came out (Well, it took a few weeks to get there, but once it got there, it stayed) it has been consistently at the Nr.1 spot in this top 10 chart. Never once dropped, not even during releases of big, overhyped games. At least not that I noticed.
I assume that every time a DLC for Sims 4 is bought, it counts as a purchase of Sims 4 in that system of counting, but still.

Information like that, if I may add, I believe to be more relieable that a tweet from a SimGuru.

That’s very interesting, taking a look at the best selling PC games on the Canadian Amazon website, Sims 4 is the best selling game as of now, so the game is clearly successful here in Canada.