THREAD CLOSED

"keekee53;c-17155013" wrote:

"Beardedgeek;c-17154965" wrote:

"ListentoToppDogg;c-17154899" wrote:
I don't have this pack yet, but I just find it funny how when they were first teasing this EP, the gurus keep saying "You're gonna LOVE it!" and then once it's released it turns out that a vast majority of people are extremely underwhelmed and don't even think it was worth the price.

"Vast majority" is 4 really vocal people.

LOL sure if you are using this thread as your reference. I have watched a few gamechangers even say it is not worth the money and to wait for a sale. This coming from the "marketers" of the game for EA.

And that's their OPINION. I have mine. I would definitely tell anyone that asks to never ever buy outdoor retreat and wait for a sale on Seasons, which basically only adds obstacles to the gameplay.

"NezImani;c-17155031" wrote:

"SatiraNL;c-17152502" wrote:
I like certain things about Island Living, and it does add some stuff to the game, but not enough to call it an expansion nor for asking a price this high. It should have been a Game Pack as best, and even then there are game packs that added more gameplay than IL does. So overall disappointed with what I got for the price and that this is called an "expansion" which means we won't get a new one for a while, but I will play with it nevertheless.

Me and you both.

And this is, still, what I find so fascinating. The claim that there is not enough added gameplay, and I look at these posts and go "wow, I wonder what I see that they don't?" because it is filled to the brim with gameplay.

What is filled to the brim with game play about Island living?

Snorkelling?
Rabbit hole “diving” - it is beyond pathetic that staring at a buoy whilst waiting for a sim to appear is considered game play.
Rabbit hole cave -again see point above.
“Cultural festivals” I.e watch sims dance round the Windenburg bonfire whilst doing the Windenburg fire dance. Some sims talk in the back ground. - not new - in fact it makes the festivals in city living look excellent and they already reused a ton of base game content that by the devs admission nobody was playing with.
Watching sims “sunbathe” on appropriate spots with a towel or lounge chair. Except the sim looks like uncomfortable and there is no multi tasking. It’s akin to watching paint dry. Also worth pointing out that by sims I mean teens, young adults, adults and elders because for some reason children can’t sunbathe or tan/burn.
Watching sims pick up trash. Wow. Exciting stuff.
Watching sims make the same sand sculptures over and over.
Sims with tails - mermaids. Can’t have mer children and no underwater lot for them but they can change the weather and drain a sim of their needs - if you are lucky. Mermaids live on the land.

Now when you consider that only ONE of those activities is permitted outside Sulani, it really doesn’t seem like EA are living up to their own definition of expansion pack: “large packs that expand your game and take your sims on new adventures”

New rabbit hole adventures more like.

"MidnightAura;c-17155131" wrote:
What is filled to the brim with game play about Island living?

Snorkelling?
Rabbit hole “diving” - it is beyond pathetic that staring at a buoy whilst waiting for a sim to appear is considered game play.
Rabbit hole cave -again see point above.
“Cultural festivals” I.e watch sims dance round the Windenburg bonfire whilst doing the Windenburg fire dance. Some sims talk in the back ground. - not new - in fact it makes the festivals in city living look excellent and they already reused a ton of base game content that by the devs admission nobody was playing with.
Watching sims “sunbathe” on appropriate spots with a towel or lounge chair. Except the sim looks like uncomfortable and there is no multi tasking. It’s akin to watching paint dry. Also worth pointing out that by sims I mean teens, young adults, adults and elders because for some reason children can’t sunbathe or tan/burn.
Watching sims pick up trash. Wow. Exciting stuff.
Watching sims make the same sand sculptures over and over.
Sims with tails - mermaids. Can’t have mer children and no underwater lot for them but they can change the weather and drain a sim of their needs - if you are lucky. Mermaids live on the land.

Now when you consider that only ONE of those activities is permitted outside Sulani, it really doesn’t seem like EA are living up to their own definition of expansion pack: “large packs that expand your game and take your sims on new adventures”

New rabbit hole adventures more like.

So, just like some other people here you don't consider Sims to have any gameplay whatsoever.
Because again

Every.
Interaction.
In.
The.
Game.
Works.
Like.
That.

Workout = Click on machine, watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST like the things you listed.
Jogging = Watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST Like the things you listed.
Cooking = Watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST like the thins you listed.

And so on and so forth.

So you obviously hate all sims games and should not play the Sims. Because Sims 1 - 3 was ALSO exactly like that.

In short, none of your points above makes any sense unless this specific pack was the first Sims game you every played ever.


Edit: So to answer your first sentence. Yes. And I love that gameplay. This pack is obviously right up my alley, while not yours. If I could get my money back for Seasons I would take that offer... While I consider this a core pack I would never start the game without, just like City LIving.

"MidnightAura;c-17155131" wrote:
What is filled to the brim with game play about Island living?

Snorkelling?
Rabbit hole “diving” - it is beyond pathetic that staring at a buoy whilst waiting for a sim to appear is considered game play.
Rabbit hole cave -again see point above.
“Cultural festivals” I.e watch sims dance round the Windenburg bonfire whilst doing the Windenburg fire dance. Some sims talk in the back ground. - not new - in fact it makes the festivals in city living look excellent and they already reused a ton of base game content that by the devs admission nobody was playing with.
Watching sims “sunbathe” on appropriate spots with a towel or lounge chair. Except the sim looks like uncomfortable and there is no multi tasking. It’s akin to watching paint dry. Also worth pointing out that by sims I mean teens, young adults, adults and elders because for some reason children can’t sunbathe or tan/burn.
Watching sims pick up trash. Wow. Exciting stuff.
Watching sims make the same sand sculptures over and over.
Sims with tails - mermaids. Can’t have mer children and no underwater lot for them but they can change the weather and drain a sim of their needs - if you are lucky. Mermaids live on the land.

Now when you consider that only ONE of those activities is permitted outside Sulani, it really doesn’t seem like EA are living up to their own definition of expansion pack: “large packs that expand your game and take your sims on new adventures”

New rabbit hole adventures more like.

That would be a great name for any future Sims 4 pack. :D

"Beardedgeek;c-17155182" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-17155131" wrote:
What is filled to the brim with game play about Island living?

Snorkelling?
Rabbit hole “diving” - it is beyond pathetic that staring at a buoy whilst waiting for a sim to appear is considered game play.
Rabbit hole cave -again see point above.
“Cultural festivals” I.e watch sims dance round the Windenburg bonfire whilst doing the Windenburg fire dance. Some sims talk in the back ground. - not new - in fact it makes the festivals in city living look excellent and they already reused a ton of base game content that by the devs admission nobody was playing with.
Watching sims “sunbathe” on appropriate spots with a towel or lounge chair. Except the sim looks like uncomfortable and there is no multi tasking. It’s akin to watching paint dry. Also worth pointing out that by sims I mean teens, young adults, adults and elders because for some reason children can’t sunbathe or tan/burn.
Watching sims pick up trash. Wow. Exciting stuff.
Watching sims make the same sand sculptures over and over.
Sims with tails - mermaids. Can’t have mer children and no underwater lot for them but they can change the weather and drain a sim of their needs - if you are lucky. Mermaids live on the land.

Now when you consider that only ONE of those activities is permitted outside Sulani, it really doesn’t seem like EA are living up to their own definition of expansion pack: “large packs that expand your game and take your sims on new adventures”

New rabbit hole adventures more like.

So, just like some other people here you don't consider Sims to have any gameplay whatsoever.
Because again

Every.
Interaction.
In.
The.
Game.
Works.
Like.
That.

Workout = Click on machine, watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST like the things you listed.
Jogging = Watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST Like the things you listed.
Cooking = Watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST like the thins you listed.

And so on and so forth.

So you obviously hate all sims games and should not play the Sims. Because Sims 1 - 3 was ALSO exactly like that.

In short, none of your points above makes any sense unless this specific pack was the first Sims game you every played ever.


Edit: So to answer your first sentence. Yes. And I love that gameplay. This pack is obviously right up my alley, while not yours. If I could get my money back for Seasons I would take that offer... While I consider this a core pack I would never start the game without, just like City LIving.

Missing the point entirely. I'm not even going to comment further.

"knuckleduster;c-17152961" wrote:

"Aine;c-17148835" wrote:
@Writin_Reg the problem isn't the happy happy, it's that you don't have to work for it - it's BORING. I want some REAL stakes, and the possibility of FAILURE, which there is NONE in Sims 4. Just please make it challenging on some level, instead of just giving happy moodlet after happy moodlet - it's creepy even, because it's not normal. It's like playing a teletubbie game - super disturbing at times. Just give us SOMETHING that is challenging. That's all. I want happy sims to mean something, not just a freaky unrealistic sunshine and rainbow image of life - I want it to be meaningful, cozy and special. And Sims 4 is making that REALLY hard.

Exactly.

The Sims has never been a challenge game. You want challenges go play a sims side game or almost any other game but a Sims game. It is like playing dolls - think about it - the story your have in your head is the play - dolls do not tell you how to play them or give direction - you make the story as you see fit It is a dollhouse after all - not Dungeons and Dragons or WOW. Look how many carried on when the devs offered a challenge even as easy as it was with Strangertown and people screamed that wasn't the sims. Make up my mind.... which is it - you want challenge or you want well games you make up as you go along - the Sims. You apparently can't have both.... By the way never once had a doll or doll house that came with rules and guidance - and believe it or not they had endless play. It is what you make it and always has been.... I know I've played this game the last 20 years and still love it. All of the series I have enjoyed. I wasn't a kid when I start in 1999 testing the first game - so maybe i see it through different eyes - what can I say - it is what I make it....

"MidnightAura;c-17155189" wrote:

"Beardedgeek;c-17155182" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-17155131" wrote:
What is filled to the brim with game play about Island living?

Snorkelling?
Rabbit hole “diving” - it is beyond pathetic that staring at a buoy whilst waiting for a sim to appear is considered game play.
Rabbit hole cave -again see point above.
“Cultural festivals” I.e watch sims dance round the Windenburg bonfire whilst doing the Windenburg fire dance. Some sims talk in the back ground. - not new - in fact it makes the festivals in city living look excellent and they already reused a ton of base game content that by the devs admission nobody was playing with.
Watching sims “sunbathe” on appropriate spots with a towel or lounge chair. Except the sim looks like uncomfortable and there is no multi tasking. It’s akin to watching paint dry. Also worth pointing out that by sims I mean teens, young adults, adults and elders because for some reason children can’t sunbathe or tan/burn.
Watching sims pick up trash. Wow. Exciting stuff.
Watching sims make the same sand sculptures over and over.
Sims with tails - mermaids. Can’t have mer children and no underwater lot for them but they can change the weather and drain a sim of their needs - if you are lucky. Mermaids live on the land.

Now when you consider that only ONE of those activities is permitted outside Sulani, it really doesn’t seem like EA are living up to their own definition of expansion pack: “large packs that expand your game and take your sims on new adventures”

New rabbit hole adventures more like.

So, just like some other people here you don't consider Sims to have any gameplay whatsoever.
Because again

Every.
Interaction.
In.
The.
Game.
Works.
Like.
That.

Workout = Click on machine, watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST like the things you listed.
Jogging = Watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST Like the things you listed.
Cooking = Watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST like the thins you listed.

And so on and so forth.

So you obviously hate all sims games and should not play the Sims. Because Sims 1 - 3 was ALSO exactly like that.

In short, none of your points above makes any sense unless this specific pack was the first Sims game you every played ever.


Edit: So to answer your first sentence. Yes. And I love that gameplay. This pack is obviously right up my alley, while not yours. If I could get my money back for Seasons I would take that offer... While I consider this a core pack I would never start the game without, just like City LIving.

Missing the point entirely. I'm not even going to comment further.

Apparently I did, since I replied to what you wrote. If you meant something different from what you wrote, then rewrite better. Because again, and I am carefully re-reading your post, there is nothing there that makes sense from a logical perspective. Nothing you complain about makes any sense unless you have no experience playing Sims. At all. And thought it would be say Skyrim but with office work.

Because if you think those points you make are specifically "good" because you, personally find those specific activites uninteresting, then that completely invalidates your points TOO, since that in NO WAY means it is not added gameplay. It just means you, specifically, did not ENJOY said gameplay.

I am pointing out @Beardedgeek that in my opinion the game is not filled to the brim with game play. Particularly new game play. I'm not quite sure why you went off on a tangent about jogging- that's irrelevant. The expansion is filled with rabbit holes and the only new game play I see is searching for trash and sand castles. The rest is rabbit holes. I'm not even sure I can consider snorkelling new.

My point is the new EP has very weak game play and hugely focuses on aesthetics.

"Beardedgeek;c-17155194" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-17155189" wrote:

"Beardedgeek;c-17155182" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-17155131" wrote:
What is filled to the brim with game play about Island living?

Snorkelling?
Rabbit hole “diving” - it is beyond pathetic that staring at a buoy whilst waiting for a sim to appear is considered game play.
Rabbit hole cave -again see point above.
“Cultural festivals” I.e watch sims dance round the Windenburg bonfire whilst doing the Windenburg fire dance. Some sims talk in the back ground. - not new - in fact it makes the festivals in city living look excellent and they already reused a ton of base game content that by the devs admission nobody was playing with.
Watching sims “sunbathe” on appropriate spots with a towel or lounge chair. Except the sim looks like uncomfortable and there is no multi tasking. It’s akin to watching paint dry. Also worth pointing out that by sims I mean teens, young adults, adults and elders because for some reason children can’t sunbathe or tan/burn.
Watching sims pick up trash. Wow. Exciting stuff.
Watching sims make the same sand sculptures over and over.
Sims with tails - mermaids. Can’t have mer children and no underwater lot for them but they can change the weather and drain a sim of their needs - if you are lucky. Mermaids live on the land.

Now when you consider that only ONE of those activities is permitted outside Sulani, it really doesn’t seem like EA are living up to their own definition of expansion pack: “large packs that expand your game and take your sims on new adventures”

New rabbit hole adventures more like.

So, just like some other people here you don't consider Sims to have any gameplay whatsoever.
Because again

Every.
Interaction.
In.
The.
Game.
Works.
Like.
That.

Workout = Click on machine, watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST like the things you listed.
Jogging = Watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST Like the things you listed.
Cooking = Watch Sim cycle through an animation for a few minutes. JUST like the thins you listed.

And so on and so forth.

So you obviously hate all sims games and should not play the Sims. Because Sims 1 - 3 was ALSO exactly like that.

In short, none of your points above makes any sense unless this specific pack was the first Sims game you every played ever.


Edit: So to answer your first sentence. Yes. And I love that gameplay. This pack is obviously right up my alley, while not yours. If I could get my money back for Seasons I would take that offer... While I consider this a core pack I would never start the game without, just like City LIving.

Missing the point entirely. I'm not even going to comment further.

Apparently I did, since I replied to what you wrote. If you meant something different from what you wrote, then rewrite better. Because again, and I am carefully re-reading your post, there is nothing there that makes sense from a logical perspective. Nothing you complain about makes any sense unless you have no experience playing Sims. At all. And thought it would be say Skyrim but with office work.

Because if you think those points you make are specifically "good" because you, personally find those specific activites uninteresting, then that completely invalidates your points TOO, since that in NO WAY means it is not added gameplay. It just means you, specifically, did not ENJOY said gameplay.

Exactly. I find tons of gameplay in the sims 4 and totally enjoy new things that offer new gameplay in each pack. I am not the least bit sorry I have all the packs and game play I enjoy in my game. Sure I miss some things from every previous Sims game and hope we get a variation of that gameplay eventually - but I could never say this game has no gameplay as I am thoroughly entertained by every one of the series including this one and look forward to it's future additions too.

If I wanted 100 percent scripted game play I would not always be playing the Sims the most - as I do. I never tire of the Sims games - I always tire of non-Sims games. Like Fall Out 4 I was sick of it in less than six months - have packs for it I have not even played - it bores me with all it's scripted play. Red Dead Redemption didn't last 2 month with me. Skyrim - haven't touched it in years. I have all sorts of big games that are boring - the sims never are because I determine how to play them.

"MidnightAura;c-17155197" wrote:
I am pointing out @Beardedgeek that in my opinion the game is not filled to the brim with game play. Particularly new game play. I'm not quite sure why you went off on a tangent about jogging- that's irrelevant. The expansion is filled with rabbit holes and the only new game play I see is searching for trash and sand castles. The rest is rabbit holes. I'm not even sure I can consider snorkelling new.

My point is the new EP has very weak game play and hugely focuses on aesthetics.

Again, because you don't ENJOY the gameplay doesn't mean it's not there. I thoroughly enjoy it. I do honestly consider this one of three core packs I would never start the game without: Island Living (I don't see me live anywhere else except MAYBE Myshuno ever again in this game), CIty Living, Spa Day.