Wants & Fears Discussion Thread

"simmerorigin;c-18166228" wrote:

"halloweenchild;c-18166111" wrote:
I'm extremely disappointed in the lack of fears and wants for occults (and just the basic lack of overall pack integration), just to name a few off the top of my head (and based on some of what I can remember from TS2)

Fear of Werewolves:
- Fear of Greg (after being attacked/in a fight with him or being terrorised by him)
- Fear of becoming a werewolf

Want to become a Werewolf:
- Want to socialise with werewolves
- Want to travel to Moonwood Mill
- Want to join a Pack
- Want to join Moonwood Collective/Wild Fangs
- Want to leave "XYZ" pack
- Want to be a "lone wolf"
- Want to gain werewolf level
- Want to fight a vampire
- Fear of hurting/scaring "someone/XYZ sim" while rampaging
- Fear of cure
- Fear of Full Moon/Rage
- Fear of joining a pack
- Fear of being a "lone wolf"
- Fear of being kicked out of Wild Fangs/Moonwood Collective

Fear of Vampires:
- Fear of Vlad (after tutorial break in)
- Fear of becoming a vampire

Want to become a Vampire:
- Want to socialise with vampires
- Want to travel to Forgotten Hollow
- Want to drink "someone's/XYZ sims" plasma
- Want to become a Grand Master Vampire
- Want to fight a werewolf
- Fear of cure
- Fear of Garlic
- Fear of Sun (Though this is a perk in the vampire skill tree, still works as a fear)
- Fear of Death by sun
- Fear of Thirst

Fear of Magic:
- Fear of Spellcasters
- Fear of becoming a Spellcaster
- Fear of being cursed (Spellcaster only)
- Fear of Potion mishap (Spellcasters only)

Want to become a Spellcaster:
- Want to socialise with Spellcasters
- Want to travel to the Magic Realm
- Cast a spell
- Raise Spellcaster level
- Brew a potion
- Fear of Overcharge
- Fear of Death by Overcharge

Fear of Mermaids:
- Fear of Shark attack
- Fear of "Siren's Lullaby/song
- Fear of becoming a Mermaid

Want to become a Mermaid:
- Want to travel to Sulani
- Want to swim in deep ocean
- Fear of cure

Fear of Aliens:
- Fear of abduction
- Fear of Alien pregnancy (male sims only)
- Fear of Alien Invasion (work event)
- Fear of travel to Sixam (through portal or rocket)

Great list. I like how these fears are event specific. They have a clear action during which that fear will be realized. I think this way of doing Fears like in the Sims 2 is more intuitive…I don’t love the concept of Fears being traits that get added to your Sim. It’s not as dynamic

Thanks! :) Had to cast my memory back to how they worked in TS2 and remembered that sims could get fears and wants surrounding occults, either fear of becoming one or others becoming one or fears of being cured or others being cured etc. Had a vampire sim of mine go loopy after her vampire husband and children (who were adults) all decided to cure themselves as part of a story I was telling at the time. It was kind of hilarious and sad at the same time.

But I agree, you can tell that TS2 was built around "wants and fears" from the start and that's why it felt dynamic and pack integration was tight. Even if you didn't own all of the packs, the game still felt tight and ran like clockwork...minus a few bugs and glitches at the time.
Fears being "traits" is pointless, especially given how frequent certain ones are. Like my sim is always getting "dead-end job" because it takes more than a few days to advance in their career (painter and chef respectively) if you're having them do nothing but eat sleep and do their tasks to prep for work. So a great deal of retuning needs to be done.

The above glitch and over-tuning is exactly why I didn't like the idea of wants and fears being put into the game, at this late stage. Because I knew it'd be a buggy mess, just like meteor strikes, Murphy bed malfunction, struck by lightning, sims getting water, sims hugging, musical chairs and all the other annoying things that happen at a far too great frequency that go from "ha ha that's kind of funny/charming" to "oml, not this again..." in like a heartbeat.
Makes one realise just how shallow TS4 really is, especially given it's a quickly retooled online multiplayer game. I'm surprised it can even run. xO