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Definitive hints


May be hints? May not be hints?
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Definitive hints


May be hints? May not be hints?
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\"ClarionOfJoy;c-17437999\" wrote:
\"kwanzaabot;c-17437889\" wrote:
\"ClarionOfJoy;c-17437827\" wrote:
\"kwanzaabot;c-17437765\" wrote:
\"Huiiie_07;c-17435526\" wrote:
To be honest? I would be really, really angry should they decide to release a farming pack with horses. Not because I am against adding them to the game (I am not really interested in them, but I still know that it's a long-term wish of many simmers), it's because it's just the worst to split animals into 3(!) different packs, while in past games, you only had to buy one to have all of them and more (there were freaking penguins in TS2 god ????).

Again, I am not against adding horses into the game, I just really despise the way they're splitting up content this time around.

Same thing with hotels. Even though I'd really like to have them in my game, I don't know if I would pay for a feature that should have been included in Island Living (or even OR). It's like paying 40$ for a game that you know will only be complete after paying another 20, maybe even 30$ additionally.


Let's be real, the only reason they managed to do pets AND horses in TS3, was because the pet animations (like most TS3 animations) were re-used from TS2. It's not fair to compare it to TS4, because In TS4, they're building them from scratch. That's more work (arguably it's work they didn't have to do, but it's work they did, so here we are).

They're also not deliberately holding horses back from Cats & Dogs. C&D was nearly 3 years ago. The choice to make horses was made much later in development, on its own, separate budget.



How do you know that they're building the animations from scratch? Do you work for EA? Incidentally, there are a lot of animations copied from TS3 to TS4 like the martial arts animations for example. I wouldn't be surprised if they copied the animations for the horses from TS3 to save money.



The 4 *****PET****** animations (we're talking about pets, not martial arts) are completely different. Ergo, from scratch.


How do you know that? You were talking about how TS3 copied animations from TS2. I was just mentioning that TS4 copied animations from TS3 too. So TS4 is guilty of it as well.

You make it sound like EAxis does so much work, but if they did, the packs would be more filled out with gameplay and they would make sure they weren't adding new bugs to the ever growing pile. Plus animating horses isn't THAT much work.

When TS3 came out with horses in their Pets EP, someone came out with a ridable horse mod for TS2 (because there are no horses in the original TS2). So if ONE modder can do that, it's not as big a job as you make it sound - it doesn't even need to have its own separate budget.



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\"ClarionOfJoy;c-17437999\" wrote:
\"kwanzaabot;c-17437889\" wrote:
\"ClarionOfJoy;c-17437827\" wrote:
\"kwanzaabot;c-17437765\" wrote:
\"Huiiie_07;c-17435526\" wrote:
To be honest? I would be really, really angry should they decide to release a farming pack with horses. Not because I am against adding them to the game (I am not really interested in them, but I still know that it's a long-term wish of many simmers), it's because it's just the worst to split animals into 3(!) different packs, while in past games, you only had to buy one to have all of them and more (there were freaking penguins in TS2 god ????).

Again, I am not against adding horses into the game, I just really despise the way they're splitting up content this time around.

Same thing with hotels. Even though I'd really like to have them in my game, I don't know if I would pay for a feature that should have been included in Island Living (or even OR). It's like paying 40$ for a game that you know will only be complete after paying another 20, maybe even 30$ additionally.


Let's be real, the only reason they managed to do pets AND horses in TS3, was because the pet animations (like most TS3 animations) were re-used from TS2. It's not fair to compare it to TS4, because In TS4, they're building them from scratch. That's more work (arguably it's work they didn't have to do, but it's work they did, so here we are).

They're also not deliberately holding horses back from Cats & Dogs. C&D was nearly 3 years ago. The choice to make horses was made much later in development, on its own, separate budget.



How do you know that they're building the animations from scratch? Do you work for EA? Incidentally, there are a lot of animations copied from TS3 to TS4 like the martial arts animations for example. I wouldn't be surprised if they copied the animations for the horses from TS3 to save money.



The 4 *****PET****** animations (we're talking about pets, not martial arts) are completely different. Ergo, from scratch.


How do you know that? You were talking about how TS3 copied animations from TS2. I was just mentioning that TS4 copied animations from TS3 too. So TS4 is guilty of it as well.

You make it sound like EAxis does so much work, but if they did, the packs would be more filled out with gameplay and they would make sure they weren't adding new bugs to the ever growing pile. Plus animating horses isn't THAT much work.

When TS3 came out with horses in their Pets EP, someone came out with a ridable horse mod for TS2 (because there are no horses in the original TS2). So if ONE modder can do that, it's not as big a job as you make it sound - it doesn't even need to have its own separate budget.



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