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"Erpe;c-16295044" wrote:
"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16294989" wrote:
Saw this on Twitter this morning:
https://twitter.com/EA/status/958761839206133760
Yes. But he also gave the reason which was that EA released both Cats & Dogs and TS4 for consoles in that quarter. In the next quarter EA likely will release only a SP and maybe a GP. So the result will likely be very different.
The other thing to consider is that this is 35% growth per year. The beginning of Sims 4 itself wasn't exactly impressive, so it's much easier to hit a 35% growth mark if we're talking 35% of 10 rather than 35% of 10,000,000.
This is likely why they prefer giving us percentages rather than hard numbers. A percentage sounds more flattering in this scenario. I would expect growth because....well, once upon a time I abandoned Sims 3 and eventually peeked back in in hopes that the expansions made it worth playing, and I'm sure people are doing that with this game too. Those probably aren't new customers to the Sims franchise, but more often it's probably old returning fans that were livid at release of Sims 4 and are now hoping that the new packs make it tolerable."DeservedCriticism;c-16295065" wrote:
"Erpe;c-16295044" wrote:
"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16294989" wrote:
Saw this on Twitter this morning:
https://twitter.com/EA/status/958761839206133760
Yes. But he also gave the reason which was that EA released both Cats & Dogs and TS4 for consoles in that quarter. In the next quarter EA likely will release only a SP and maybe a GP. So the result will likely be very different.
The other thing to consider is that this is 35% growth per year. The beginning of Sims 4 itself wasn't exactly impressive, so it's much easier to hit a 35% growth mark if we're talking 35% of 10 rather than 35% of 10,000,000.
This is likely why they prefer giving us percentages rather than hard numbers. A percentage sounds more flattering in this scenario. I would expect growth because....well, once upon a time I abandoned Sims 3 and eventually peeked back in in hopes that the expansions made it worth playing, and I'm sure people are doing that with this game too. Those probably aren't new customers to the Sims franchise, but more often it's probably old returning fans that were livid at release of Sims 4 and are now hoping that the new packs make it tolerable.
That is the reason I bought the sims 4 a year ago. So I can totally see that being the case personally.- I guess I'll go with 2020. It seems like a safe bet to me. There have been subtle hints that the game will continue to get content past 2020, but I have my doubts.
"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16294989" wrote:
Saw this on Twitter this morning:
https://twitter.com/EA/status/958761839206133760
What is FY 18Q3..? (I'm not surprised by the way, Rodiek already stated Sims 4 had a rocky start)
p.s.: Sorry, happens to me often, staring at something in complete confusion, then think 'heck, I'm gonna ask' and as soon as I have, bingo, I get it: federal year 2018 quarter 3. Not that I totally understand now, cause that means from July 1, 2018 to September 30, 2018. That's like... in the future...?"JoAnne65;c-16295125" wrote:
"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16294989" wrote:
Saw this on Twitter this morning:
https://twitter.com/EA/status/958761839206133760
What is FY 18Q3..? (I'm not surprised by the way, Rodiek already stated Sims 4 had a rocky start)
p.s.: Sorry, happens to me often, staring at something in complete confusion, then think 'heck, I'm gonna ask' and as soon as I have, bingo, I get it: federal year 2018 quarter 3. Not that I totally understand now, cause that means from July 1, 2018 to September 30, 2018. That's like... in the future...?
FY 18Q3 means financial year 2018 third quarter. Financial year 2018 started on April 1 2017 and ends on March 31 2018."JoAnne65;c-16295125" wrote:
"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16294989" wrote:
Saw this on Twitter this morning:
https://twitter.com/EA/status/958761839206133760
What is FY 18Q3..? (I'm not surprised by the way, Rodiek already stated Sims 4 had a rocky start)
Fiscal year 18, quarter 3.
The fiscal year basically just means EA determines for themselves what counts as a year and has a point where they start cranking out numbers on what they earned in the past year. For some companies it aligns perfectly with a normal year on December 31st, some others count the first friday in January as the end of the fiscal year (if I remember correct, anyways), and some others might consider something like June 23rd the "New years" of their fiscal year. It's not a traditional New Year, but rather EA might consider January 10th the end of 2017 due to how their company operates. The fiscal year is always named after the year it ENDS in, so fiscal year 18 implies their fiscal year did recently end in January.
Quarter 3 would be the third quarter, and I'm actually glad you picked up on that because it potentially downplays that statistic even more. It explicitly states only the third quarter has seen this boost. If we go off the assumption their fiscal year ended in January (since I have no definite proof but that seems to align with everything I know about fiscal years), then this means their quarters started one month later than usual. Quarter 3 would then be the months of August, September and October.
That doesn't seem right because they hardly release anything in August, September or October. Have ANY of the years Sims 4 has developed for released major packs in those months? It's also possible that even though it ended this January, it ended on January 1st, in which case we'd have the more traditional quarter of July, August and September.
In either case, Q3 would be one of their least active quarters regardless. It basically means the Stuff packs of those quarters saw a 35% sales increase over past years. One might argue that this can be used as a reasonable sample to represent sales increases of all packs since a 35% increase in a humble stuff pack must speak for something, but it's also odd that the data makes an effort to explicitly state it's just Q3 that saw such increases. Q4 would be the quarter that releases Expansion Packs while Q1 and Q2 traditionally release Game Packs.
Perhaps the thing to take away is....as I said, percentages are more flattering when you have nothing to begin with. If my company sells 10 products in an entire year and this year I sold 15, I can tell people my company saw a whopping 50% growth in sales. That they've more or less cherrypicked their LEAST active quarter and brag about 35% growth is probably very telling that the others aren't seeing this level of growth. Sure, the community is probably seeing growth all the same (I doubt these random forgettable stuff packs in Q3 would see such growth if the community wasn't growing), but overall it's likely a far cry from 35% year over year for the entire game at all times.
EDIT: What's got me curious is the comment "The Sims™ 4 player base grew more than 35% year-over-year and delivered the highest performing expansion pack to date during the quarter." The wording there is strange. To me it implies the Expansion released during Q3, but that makes no sense. If they're going by the system where their fiscal year ended in 2018 so it's fiscal year 2018, we're in January, so it's impossible for Cats and Dogs to land in Q3. Either I'm misunderstanding something, he was simply saying as an additional caveat unrelated the the 35% year-over-year portion that Cats and Dogs sold better than any other expansion pack to date, that Cats and Dogs outperformed all other EA expansions of it's economic quarter, or he's referring to whatever released during Q3 as an "expansion pack."
I think either I'm misunderstanding something or Cats and Dogs selling better than other expansions was simply an additional caveat and wasn't meant to sound like Cats and Dogs was in Q3. Probably the latter because it would make sense in the sense that for them, Q4 (the one with Cats and Dogs in it) probably just ended, so he probably meant that quarter they just finished rather than Q3 from the previous comments.
Could also be that he's referring to their console release. Wasn't that in Q3? Wouldn't really be a surprise though if the console release beat former expansion sales, so would be kind of a weird thing to praise the game for."MasonGamer;c-16295004" wrote:
I'd Pray Sims 4 gets a good 10 years lifespan, Once I get the majority of what I want, I'd like an additional 5 years to enjoy the game before they usher in the Sims 5.
I sort of feel this way also. Maybe not five years but I wish they would give us at least a couple of years to enjoy the finished game before releasing another. Of course you could wait to buy it that would never happen with me. :) I still have so much gameplay left unfinished in Sims 3. University was released in March 2013, Island Paradise was released 3 months later in June, then Into The Future just four months later in October. 3 packs in one year. Sims 4 was announced in May of 2013. After that announcement it was really hard to focus on the current game."JoAnne65;c-16295125" wrote:
"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16294989" wrote:
Saw this on Twitter this morning:
https://twitter.com/EA/status/958761839206133760
What is FY 18Q3..? (I'm not surprised by the way, Rodiek already stated Sims 4 had a rocky start)
p.s.: Sorry, happens to me often, staring at something in complete confusion, then think 'heck, I'm gonna ask' and as soon as I have, bingo, I get it: federal year 2018 quarter 3. Not that I totally understand now, cause that means from July 1, 2018 to September 30, 2018. That's like... in the future...?
FY2018 started in April of 2017, and will end March of this year.
With the rerelease of the base game on PS4 and XB1 it’s not surprising that there’s a jump in players. There’s no way to cross reference PC ownership but there’s probably a lot of overlap, but that’s really going beyond the message EA was trying to convey in it’s report.- I just don't think I'll be investing in The Sims for a fifth time, The Sims 4 has given me almost everything I've asked for in a Sims game and I likely won't be enticed to buy everything all over again for a fifth time. I honestly hope that they just continue The Sims 4 for many years and make it one of the biggest and best games of the franchise and in the entirety of EA's history. TS5 will come out and people will just be asking for everything we had in previous games again and frankly, I'm over waiting on doing laundry in a life simulator again.
"drake_mccarty;c-16295963" wrote:
"JoAnne65;c-16295125" wrote:
"TheGoodOldGamer;c-16294989" wrote:
Saw this on Twitter this morning:
https://twitter.com/EA/status/958761839206133760
What is FY 18Q3..? (I'm not surprised by the way, Rodiek already stated Sims 4 had a rocky start)
p.s.: Sorry, happens to me often, staring at something in complete confusion, then think 'heck, I'm gonna ask' and as soon as I have, bingo, I get it: federal year 2018 quarter 3. Not that I totally understand now, cause that means from July 1, 2018 to September 30, 2018. That's like... in the future...?
FY2018 started in April of 2017, and will end March of this year.
With the rerelease of the base game on PS4 and XB1 it’s not surprising that there’s a jump in players. There’s no way to cross reference PC ownership but there’s probably a lot of overlap, but that’s really going beyond the message EA was trying to convey in it’s report.
Thank you, that explains a lot. So it is their EPs that have the 35% increase.
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