I've been a Sims-player for 12 years and I love The Sims but 4 has been a disappointment to me. Looks like the newer Sims players are used to get shallow packs/don't know how awesome this game used to be and a part of simmers say they like TS4 the best because it LOOKS good. This group says the people who express their disappointment are "ungrateful" and "crying kids" and praise EA all the time so EA keeps doing similar stuff because they know people will buy it, no matter what it is. Unfortunately, I feel like most people have accepted the game as it is already.