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6 years ago
"DragonCat159;c-17224513" wrote:"SimsLovinLycan;c-17222534" wrote:"Writin_Reg;c-17222521" wrote:"SimsLovinLycan;c-17222503" wrote:"Writin_Reg;c-17222487" wrote:"SimsLovinLycan;c-17222400" wrote:"Cinebar;c-17222392" wrote:"SimsLovinLycan;c-17222374" wrote:"Chazzzy;c-17220611" wrote:
I don’t want anything else to be added to the base game if that thing is already included in a pack I already paid for.
Folks who want hot tubs can purchase Perfect Patio Stuff like I did.
In TS2, cars originally were part of a pack, then were later patched into the base game...and TS2 had hot tubs in the base game. So, yeah, I do approve of patching hot tubs into the base game. Making former base game content into pack-only content was a scummy idea to begin with.
The patched part was actually an object to allow players to have a driveway so they could also get the cars from Maxis (DLC) which were special autos with many different car brands. Such as Mustang etc. Since Maxis was on a kick to promote a few different brands and models of cars they had entered into a contract to promote those in game with those manufactures, but it wasn't like TS4, to just take a mesh and put it into the base, and then what the player who paid for that mesh has left is actually paid for all the free games they just gave away if they keep doing that.
But, they were still added to the base game, promo or not.
And they don't need to patch the actual pack tubs into the base game. They could patch, like, one cheaper tub into the base game while the pack tubs stay DLC. I'm not saying, "Take the pack tubs and put them in the base game and screw the people who bought the pack." I'm saying, "One cheap tub that's not in the pack being put into the base game sounds reasonable."
I honestly don't see the problem with putting one dinky, cheap hot tub in the base game after the pack has been out for years. Heck, it also would add one more hot tub option for people who DO have the pack, so that's a win for everyone.
All we got in the pack was two cheap looking hot tubs ( a 4 seater or a 8 seater) with a choice of a few colors - not a bunch of different ones. So how does that help?
Yeah, you got two with the pack, then you get a third free one patched in. That's one more tub. How is one more tub, for free, NOT a win? That's like saying, "I bought two sandwiches on my lunch break, then my boss gave everyone in the office a free one, so how does that help me?" How? You just got one more sandwich for free. That's how.
I would not have bought the other sandwiches if I was getting one for free - is my point.
But life is unpredictable, and people change their minds.
To the sandwich analogy, why would it be a bad thing to get a surprise free sandwich, anyway? Even if you were initially told you had to buy your own lunch and you don't intend to eat your free sandwich right away...why is it so bad to get one more sandwich? Sure, you paid for two sandwiches out of your own pocket and now you're full. You can always put your free sandwich in the fridge and eat it tomorrow. That's one sandwich you don't have to worry about buying, even if you did already buy two because you were under the impression that the only way you'd get lunch was if you bought your own, only for the boss to change his mind after you'd already bought your two sandwiches from the deli around the corner. No use being sour over the money you spent on the sandwiches you already bought. What matters is the extra sandwich you now have to enjoy as well.
Life is unpredictable, so are loot-boxes/gambling. I guess that sentence can justify any malicious business tactic act.
Changing their minds != foreseeing the product you bought will become freebie in future? If we're talking who change retail plans, when - doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable. If consumers, I don't see any correlation of your argument to the discussed issue.
(Btw) Sandwich is gone after you consumed it, virtual content does not though. I don't think you're even using fair analogy, because one edible item isn't comparable to a DLC pack. If you used say McDonald combo meal, that would be more convincing argument.
Since simmers lack self-restrain to purchase things on sale, I'm sure those people were entice to buy only/firstly mainly because omg it haz hot tubs sht up n taek mai muney. This would be exact principle if laundry day's washer and dryer got patch it. For those that don't understand the complaint, imagine if instead of objects - gameplay mechanics were thrown in for free. Different variants/types, but still doesn't make the marketing practice less deceitful/exploitative.
If there's nothing one for giving out freebies that once were heavily advertised items for making a sale profit, then EA should opt to patch in Weather&Holidays in the BG. What's the harm from that? It's only heavy mechanics - the EP will still contain its exclusive items. It's just deceitful, cheap and comes of as plain nasty practice to the consumer. And I think we all been in situation by a service/company asides EA we're we been made fooled and tricked, taking an offered plan/deal that look sweet before the rug was pulled under us the last second. The aftermath: it hurts badly.
Yeah, if we are going to continue down this road then I have some objects from packs I didn't buy they can go ahead and start patching into my base. Like the Vet Career, I didn't want strays but I wanted a Vet Career so Maxis go ahead and give all of us who didn't buy C&D the vet office, and the career etc. I also didn't buy GF because of one lousy career, but Maxis go ahead and give me the world. I also didn't buy Seasons, but Maxis go ahead and give me one of the favorite things players like in that pack and that is the Holiday Calandar. Yes, let's patch that to everyone.
I didn't buy Kids Room Stuff but Maxis go ahead and patch into my base that game...I don't need the other assets just those cards and that game.
I didn't buy hardly any stuff packs but go ahead and give me the objects and gameplay of why people bought a stuff pack for the one item gameplay object. Like I didn't get backyard stuff or whatever, but go ahead and patch in that slip n slide. Others have already paid for it all so yeah, just go ahead and give all the stuff pack objects free to basegame, and a lot of the clothes from Vampires just patch those into basegame since so many didn't want vampires but wanted the gothy clothes, and oh, yeah, go ahead and patch in thunderstorms and some snow, why not it didn't matter other people had to pay $40 for that.
You are right, might as well just let some buy and the rest of wait to get it all for free as they don't come up with new ideas for free content but just recycle content for packs as a free patch. Oh, and festivals some just wanted festivals so just go ahead and patch those to base without having to buy the world and apartments and gameplay.