DrKniFi - thanks, I have been playing sims 2 for ever and have lots of cc from first MTS and secound TSR. I played sims 3 four maybe a year, but it was just to hard to play and drag got way to bad. I also never liked it as well and missed the sims 2. So I decided since sims 4 now has toddlers and was on sale, I bout it and so far like it well enough. Not as good as sims 2 but way better then 3 and so plan to play and enjoy both.
Thanks everyone.