Semi-permanent toddler grudges
Hi, so I did find a thread about this a minute ago but... it was last updated in Feb and I've been admonished more than once for 'necroposting', plus there were two posts that proclaimed "No longer a...
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@TygerNight Hello! I added my "me too" here because sentiments are what I hate most about this game. It is infuriating that we don't have an option to disable them. There are a few posts about this, including the one you mentioned (btw, the user who posted "no longer an issue" was referring to something else, not the sentiments). I think you're safe to click "me too" on the first post for any of the threads I'm adding at the bottom. I wonder if some or all of them could be merged since the general idea is the same.
In the meantime, there are a couple of things you can try.
- If you have Parenthood, or if your parent sim has high Charisma skill, make the parent sim active and click on the toddler with the negative sentiment. See if the parent has an apology option. Every time I've had a sim apologize immediately, the target sim has lost the negative sentiment they just gained.
- If you're not opposed to cheating, you can open the cheat console and use these to remove those negative sentiments. For something so annoying as this, I actually don't consider it cheating. 🙂 But if you're on console, the cheats will likely disable trophies and achievements. NOTE: You must replace "firstname" "lastname" with your sims' names; for example: modifyrelationship Toddler HurtSim Parent HurtSim -100 sentimentTrack_Hurt_ST_generic
Hurt:
modifyrelationship firstname lastname firstname2 lastname2 -100 sentimentTrack_Hurt_ST_generic
Deeply Wounded:
modifyrelationship firstname lastname firstname2 lastname2 -100 sentimentTrack_Hurt_LT_generic
Festering Grudge:
modifyrelationship firstname lastname firstname2 lastname2 -100 sentimentTrack_Bitter_LT_grudge
Again please consider clicking "me too" on the following threads.
The main OPEN thread:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Negative-Sentiment-Applied-Without-Reason/m-p/9751258/highlight/true#M163344
There was a bit of confusion at the beginning of this one. Turning off lifestyles does not turn off sentiments, in case you didn't already know that.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion-Feedback/Add-and-remove-sentiments/m-p/9745502/highlight/true#M39873
This is the post where the user said "no longer an issue" but again, that comment was not referring to sentiments:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion-Feedback/EA-please-let-us-choose-to-disable-the-sentiments/m-p/9928890/highlight/true#M42777
@JonaO703 I am definitely not opposed to using cheats, though since I lost my PC and can only play on my PS4, I've not been able to make a cheat code work. I've followed all the steps and just... Nothing ever happens. I tried something simple, moveobjects on, and nada. Couldn't move anything in any new way. Tried complicated, to force a 4-baby birth and nothing. I think I'm just cursed where cheat codes are concerned. >.<;
As far as apologizing, sometimes I really, REALLY don't want my parent to apologize for something that the toddler SHOULD be reprimanded for. Like being rude or defiant. Logically, if the parent apologizes, s/he's rewarding bad behavior and the toddler will expect to continue being rude and defiant without repercussion. That's not an idea I can get behind. >.o
And I will check those threads and add my 'me too's to them, thank you. 🙂
~Tyger <3
As far as apologizing, sometimes I really, REALLY don't want my parent to apologize for something that the toddler SHOULD be reprimanded for. Like being rude or defiant. Logically, if the parent apologizes, s/he's rewarding bad behavior and the toddler will expect to continue being rude and defiant without repercussion. That's not an idea I can get behind. >.o
And I will check those threads and add my 'me too's to them, thank you. 🙂
~Tyger <3
@TygerNight Oh wow! I'm terribly sorry your cheats aren't working. I don't think I could play this game anymore without cheats. :-( I also know exactly what you mean about apologizing. Although, if that was my only option, I would rather do that than live with the consequences of a completely irrational sentiment. If you have Parenthood, after an apology, you should still have an option to discipline the defiant behavior. Hopefully that doesn't trigger another sentiment. Grrr! I hate sentiments in this game so much!
@valohim666 100% agree with you! We should have the option to disable sentiments as well as likes/dislikes. Both are extremely disruptive for me and take away from my enjoyment of the game. I don't understand why EA is forcing all players to endure these "features" that were only developed to support specific packs. What if players don't want Snow Escape or Dream Home Decorator? There is an option to disable Lifestyles from SE. There is an option to disable voting and enviro impact for Eco Lifestyle. There is an option to disable effects from Seasons. Obviously someone at EA knows what it means to give players options.
@JonaO703 EA seems to have a habit of sneaking things into the base game that are meant for packs, and it seems that a lot of times those things either don't work at all, don't work as intended or are just annoying. It's not just Sims 4 either. I remember buying Sims 3 in a bundle with the Supernatural expansion, and something I kept seeing was the game mentioning registering as a self employed alchemist. Problem with that is you needed another expansion to register as self employed, and I didn't have that so the game was informing me of something I just can't do.
What makes it really lazy to me is when you play this game on a PC, and use something like MCCC. MCCC even with all of its modules is a relatively tiny mod in terms of size, yet it gives players control over so many different aspects of the game. I can't help but feel that so many of its options are simply taking advantage of some sort of internal on/off switch for various aspects of the game, something that if EA wanted to turn into actual options they could. If modders can do that sort of thing, why can't EA incorporate similar things into their game and give players not only more options but a bigger variety of ways to play because of the options.
EA can force players into these features because they know some of their fanbase is ignorant and gullible and will go along with anything, though to be fair a lot of people are like that not just Sims 4 players. Not enough players tell EA that they don't like things, and so a lot of things never see any changes because too many people accept it as is. I look at all the glitches in the game, some of which have been there for weeks, months, heck even years, yet they won't be fixed because a majority of the fanbase seems to ignore them and just wants more content instead of fixing what's already there.
@valohim666 I don't think I'd say anyone is ignorant or gullible but I do think many of us enjoy the game so much that we just keep coming back; warts and all. I, for one, have bought almost every pack now. lol I refuse to get bust the dust because I just won't torture my sims like that. :-) I haven't decided yet if I'll get the decorator pack or cottage living. I can only hope the right people are reading these posts and trying to address the issues. Based on the number of things they've addressed over the last several months, I do think they are paying attention.
@xochiquetzl_xkvn Yes! These sentiments should never have been introduced for toddlers. Surely any sane person would understand that toddlers don't have the capacity to maintain a "festering grudge" for days (or even into childhood and beyond) over something as silly as a bath or learning potty. I sort of thought the "flirty" moodlets from sentiments were cute at first but it got old fast. lol I'd rather go back to having my sims be flirty/playful/happy/angry depending on their interactions. Not just because they're around a sim who makes them feel some sort of something.
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