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Re: Can't open Sims 4, stuck on on "Verifying 'The Sims 4.app"

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Are you getting an error message saying the game is verifying or is this what is showing in Origin?

What is a "hard uninstall" of the app and what instructions did you follow to do this?

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  • See here for what a hard uninstall is: https://help.ea.com/en/help/origin/origin/manually-uninstalling-origin/#hard-way

    The message I put in quotes is the message the shows up. I am attaching a screenshot. It used to show up when I was able to launch the game, it was a pop up that came up when I launched the game and after it finished loading the game would launch. Now it just never finishes loading. I have had it sit and wait for 30+ minutes and it never loads. Sometimes it gets very close to the end of the loading bar and then just starts over again. Sometimes it gets to the very end and just sits at the same spot forever until the app crashes. 

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    Thanks for the link. I am familiar with EA’s instructions but they are not complete. Please trash every single file as listed here https://bluebellflora.com/how-to-uninstall-origin-on-a-mac/

    However, I suspect your issue is permissions from the screenshot you have provided. Make sure Origin and Sims 4 has Full Disk Access in System Settings > Privacy & Security.

    Is your game installed on an external drive? If so there are other things to check.
  • So the question of where it is installed is kind of complicated. The whole reason I stopped being able to open the game is because I was having a lot of performance issues playing it installed on my laptop so I wanted to move it to an external drive, and I followed some instructions I found on reddit and probably did something wrong, because I wasn't able to open the game after moving the files to the drive and started getting the endless "verifying" loading screen. At that point I tried to move the files back to my laptop, thinking I'd just manually uninstall them, then change the download location for new downloads to the external drive and download them all again from origin. But when I moved the files back to my laptop I tried opening sims just to see if I could again, and I was still getting the endless "verifying" loading screen. Over the last two weeks of communicating with EA support I've tried deleting and reinstalling the files on the external drive and on my laptop, and no matter where I install them I still get the "verifying" screen that won't stop loading if I try to launch the game. 

    Just now I checked my permissions and you were right that origin and sims 4 didn't have full disk access, but changing that didn't let me open sims 4 with the files installed on my laptop. I then tried trashing every file listed in the link you sent me, trashing the old sims 4 files, reinstalling origin, and opening origin and reinstalling sims 4 on the external drive. The download is currently stuck on the same "verifying" loading pop up. Currently Origin has full disk access in my preferences, but I can't give sims 4 full disk access because it's not currently installed either on my laptop or on my external drive.

    Ultimately, I would like to have sims 4 and all my purchased packs installed on the external drive, but I am open to anything at this point just to get the base game to open again, and then would be fine with figuring out how to get all the files on the external drive after if that is easier. 

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    Thanks, really helpful 🙂 Firstly, moving the game installation will never improve game performance, only free up space on the internal drive. Game performance is down to your Mac hardware and what it is capable of. Do you have storage issues on your Mac?

    When you say "and then would be fine with figuring out how to get all the files on the external drive" what files are you referring to, all your Packs and Kits?

    The benefit of the game being installed externally is of course freeing up internal storage but you must make sure the drive and connection is fast enough, it will never be as fast as the internal storage device. There is a higher risk of corruption because the drive may not eject properly and the nature of external drives is unplugging and plugging in regularly.
  • Thank you, this is really helpful info. I'm usually good at following instructions on tech stuff but am not that skilled/knowledgable on any of it myself. Before I removed all the sims games from my mac I still had some storage left, but very little. However, based on your response I think you're correct moving the files to the external drive probably wouldn't have fixed anything. The performance issues started when I downloaded a few new packs, so it sounds like the issue wasn't about storage but that my hardware wasn't robust enough to handle running the game with that many packs. Am I understanding right?

    In that case, would the best solution for being able to continue playing the game on my laptop without the same performance issues be to still have the game and packs installed on my device since I have the space, but not download all the packs I was previously using and leave some uninstalled so the game doesn't overwhelm my hardware? (I'm planning to upgrade to a gaming PC at some point, just looking for an interim solution that allows me to play the game without killing the mac)

    Yes, when I said get all the files on the external drive I meant all my packs and kits. I've gradually accumulated a lot of them and the performance on my mac was okay for a while as I kept adding on, but after the last two or three expansion packs there started to be issues.

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    Which specific Mac do you have? Apple > About This Mac

    How much storage is available internally? When you're running out of internal space this can also affect virtual memory. Virtual memory is when the OS needs more RAM to perform optimally so uses free disk space. If there isn't much disk space it cannot utilise virtual memory which can affect performance. Some users have the misguided belief that storing the game externally improves game performance but it doesn't. It may give them a temporary performance increase because there is more space for virtual memory but this is only temporary, the disk space will fill up again quickly.
  • It's a 2018 macbook pro, full specs in the attached screenshot.

    At the moment it says there's 74.01 GB or storage available, but there are no sims apps currently installed. I think before I tried moving everything to the external drive there was around 20 GB still available, probably a little less.

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    Your Mac should be able to play the game ok but you may need to lower the settings to improve performance. You could move the game installation to the external drive, provided the drive is fast enough. Do you know what kind of drive you have? And the connection?
  • It's a 500GB Seagate slim for mac portable drive, the model number is SRD00F1. I don't know what the connection type is called, but I connect the drive to my computer using the cord the drive came which has a micro-b connector going into the drive and a usb output, and I connect the usb connector to the apple usb to usb-c dongle and plug the usb-c connector into my computer.

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    2 years ago

    @Bluebellflora do you have any other troubleshooting suggestions for installing the game (either on an external drive or on the laptop drive) so it would be able to launch without getting stuck on the "verifying" screen?

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    The drive connection will only be as fast as the slowest part of the connection, using a USB-C adapter won't make it faster. I think this is your drive? https://www.storagereview.com/review/seagate-backup-plus-portable-5tb-drive-review If so the speeds are very low which isn't surprising as it is a HDD (Hard Disk Drive). It has storage but not speed. You need a faster drive to get the game working efficiently. You'll probably find that if you leave it verifying it will eventually complete but will take hours potentially.

    If you have space, install it on your internal drive in the Macintosh HD/Applications folder.
  • THANK YOU SO MUCH. After doing one more hard install of Origin using your instructions instead of EA's, I reinstalled sims 4 on the internal drive and am now able to launch the game. All the additional information you were able to provide and the questions you asked were so helpful and I am so grateful, I never would have been able to resolve this without your help.

    I'm only going to install some of my owned packs instead of all of them so I hopefully don't run into the same performance issues as I was having before. You said moving files to an external drive is only a temporary fix for freeing disk space and improving RAM; are there other things I could do that would improve performance? Or if I moved non sims 4 files to the drive to free up disk space but kept all the sims files on the internal drive, might that help?

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    Great, glad I could help 🙂

    Performance is dictated by hardware - CPU, GPU and memory. If they are low spec your Mac will always struggle. If you add in a ton of Mods that add more functionality to the game it may lag more. If you add high-poly alpha CC to your game, it gives the Mac a lot more work to do to render the graphics which will cause lag.

    Freeing up internal space will not fix lag long term. Which exact model Mac do you have?
  • It's a 2018 13-inch Macbook Pro, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports, with a 2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5 processor. There are 8gbs of memory and 250 gbs of storage.

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    You also have an Intel Iris Plus 655 graphics chip. Whilst your specs aren't uber low, your Mac will struggle if you have all settings on high with lots of CC/Mods adding more functionality and rendering to the game. The more you add, the laggier it will become.
  • Thank you, that's really helpful info to know! If I start having performance issues again I will uninstall packs until it improves again.